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San Francisco 49ers 28 50.91%
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:18 PM   #108141
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Show me the play cause I dont remember it, but 1 play wouldn't have saved the Eagles like it would have saved the Lions yesterday.
Nelson Agholor catches one pass and it's likely a TD and the game.

But I agree that the refs in general have been especially terrible this season. Just way too many flags for ticky-tack crap while letting legitimate stuff go without a word.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:25 PM   #108142
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What I mean by my statement is the Lions had the points to win, if that TD had not been called back even with no extra points Lions win 36-34. This was not a case of toss it down the field, this was a case of that stupid we cant decide what the process is so since this team started it all with Calvin were going to say they didnt complete the process even tho others have juggled balls out of bounds before and as along as the ball did not hit the ground it was a TD.

The Eagles required additional time or plays downfield just for a shot at the end zone. As far as I can remember the Eagles did not have any points taken from them like the Lions did.
And my point is bad calls are a part of the game.
Win by them and lose by them. It’s been happening for a long time. It’s funny how folks are always so quick to blame the refs, but I’d be willing to wager their stats are much better than the players stats.
So until I see a team lose that has played a perfect game, I will reserve judgement.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:31 PM   #108143
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Nelson Agholor catches one pass and it's likely a TD and the game.

But I agree that the refs in general have been especially terrible this season. Just way too many flags for ticky-tack crap while letting legitimate stuff go without a word.
Show me the play where Agholor was interfered with and had his helmet ripped off negating a TD. Were not talking about a case of he was in the end zone and the refs took the TD from Philly. I am talking about the Lions had a TD and it was taken from them then on the very last play you can see Jones get pushed and fly 7 yards downfield sliding because he was pushed. The NFL ignored it and cost the Lions the game.

Agholor never made a catch to the end zone thats a what if scenario, granted noone knows if the Lions had the ball on the 5 if they would have done anything but they should have had that chance.

Here is the final play of Lions vs Philly, I see no interference by the Lions on the last drive.

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Old 09-30-2019, 03:32 PM   #108144
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Oh nah you're right, not interference. Just incompetence lol
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:32 PM   #108145
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And my point is bad calls are a part of the game.
Win by them and lose by them. It’s been happening for a long time. It’s funny how folks are always so quick to blame the refs, but I’d be willing to wager their stats are much better than the players stats.
So until I see a team lose that has played a perfect game, I will reserve judgement.
But im not saying the Refs are the problem here im saying it was New York it was the NFL itself this time. Was the game sloppy o hell yes it was but New York didnt make the calls they needed to
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:34 PM   #108146
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Did you even watch that game? I’m guessing not.
The helmet was ripped off an Eagles player on special teams.

Bad calls happen. It’s part of the game. Nobody likes them.
The game is over. End of story.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:36 PM   #108147
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Oh nah you're right, not interference. Just incompetence lol
idk after 4 weeks im seriously starting to believe our defense might be legit. We have a bye at the perfect time get Slay and Stafford healthy I can see the team going on a tear right now. But they've played good hard games against 3 teams that by rights should have destroyed the Lions in the Chargers, Eagles, and Chiefs.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:42 PM   #108148
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Chargers are mediocre, especially without their best offensive weapon and their musical chairs at kicker they've been playing since Nick Novak.
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:52 PM   #108149
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Old 09-30-2019, 03:54 PM   #108150
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Way too early to tell for all teams not named New England or KC.
KC loses Hill and Hunt and doesn’t miss a beat. New England has proven over the last two decade that anybody can be plugged into that line up and they will find a way to win.
Everyone else is still on an identity search.

Edit: Woohoo! Jon Runyan is still making big plays!
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:01 PM   #108151
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This is what happens when your owner sues the league for decades.

Again, this has some extra games added in due to the NFL’s Raider bias clause. It was a hit worthy of a few games in today’s league. Wasnt even brutal. Tack on four more to go heavier than last time because he’s a fool. Max should be 6 or 7 (if playing for any other team).

12 games is hilarious. Hope he appeals it and cuts it in half.

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Old 09-30-2019, 04:01 PM   #108152
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Stefon Diggs might want a trade. Naturally the Patriots have been mentioned.
Even if they could swing a trade I don't think they have the cap space to fit in a punter off the street right now never mind a upper end receiver.
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Old 09-30-2019, 04:02 PM   #108153
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Stefon Diggs is basically Josh Gordon so I'm not sure he would help them that much. Not to mention the Vikings have exactly 2 good receivers so they probably wouldn't trade Diggs for anything less than a king's ransom.
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Burfict should have been banned years ago.
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Old 09-30-2019, 05:10 PM   #108155
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Can’t just “move on” from a game where the refs decided to have the Chiefs win. Somehow, and someday, the league needs to understand how wring it is and to fix the issues. Let the game play itself.
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This is what happens when your owner sues the league for decades.

Again, this has some extra games added in due to the NFL’s Raider bias clause. It was a hit worthy of a few games in today’s league. Wasnt even brutal. Tack on four more to go heavier than last time because he’s a fool. Max should be 6 or 7 (if playing for any other team).

12 games is hilarious. Hope he appeals it and cuts it in half.
Eh, I think the Raider bias died with Al. Things have been a lot quieter since Mark took over, McKenzie brought back respectability to the front office and now that Gruden's back he's loved by pretty much everyone - league, fans, players, media, etc. This is 100% because of his history and that's it. I think if it's reduced it will probably be cut down to 10 games total, if anything.
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This is what happens when your owner sues the league for decades.

Again, this has some extra games added in due to the NFL’s Raider bias clause. It was a hit worthy of a few games in today’s league. Wasnt even brutal. Tack on four more to go heavier than last time because he’s a fool. Max should be 6 or 7 (if playing for any other team).

12 games is hilarious. Hope he appeals it and cuts it in half.
I dont know Vontaze Burfict history but as far as i know he hasent admitted to half the crap that others have. Were the Saints not caught on tape screaming gimmie my money after a hit on Farve? Did Romanowski not try to permanently injure those who he played against? John Henderson tried to remove someones eyes on the field for god sakes.

I get it different time the NFL was far more grueling before the CTE stuff but yes the way Burffict tackles plays into this, however why do the whiny receivers get away with wanting a flag on every little thing? QB is bairly touched and heaven help you if its a QB the NFL cares about like Brady.

12 games for a hit might be much, but start going after these guys or these coaches for technique and dont let them lead with helmet.
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Burfict Fines
YEAR WEEK FINE HIT
2018 13 $53,482 Impermissible use of the helmet
2018 6 $112,000 Helmet-to-helmet hits on two players
2017 7 $12,154 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2016 11 $12,154 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2016 6 $75,000 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2015 17 $50,000 Late hit
2015 14 $69,454 Three unsportsmanlike conduct penalties
2014 6 $25,000 Two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties
2013 8 $21,000 Spearing
2013 6 $7,875 Facemask
2013 3 $31,000 Hit on defenseless player

Since coming into the league in 2012, this clown has 23 personal fouls and 15 unnecessary roughness flags. Both are tops in that span.
Not to mention almost half a million in fines and almost $4mil in forfeited game checks.
Yeah he needs to go. He was given many chances and blew them each time.

The league makes billions on its stars. Don’t need someone going against the grain taking out those stars.
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Old 09-30-2019, 06:19 PM   #108159
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This is what happens when your owner sues the league for decades.

Again, this has some extra games added in due to the NFL’s Raider bias clause. It was a hit worthy of a few games in today’s league. Wasnt even brutal. Tack on four more to go heavier than last time because he’s a fool. Max should be 6 or 7 (if playing for any other team).

12 games is hilarious. Hope he appeals it and cuts it in half.
You act like he has no prior history.
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Burfict Fines
YEAR WEEK FINE HIT
2018 13 $53,482 Impermissible use of the helmet
2018 6 $112,000 Helmet-to-helmet hits on two players
2017 7 $12,154 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2016 11 $12,154 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2016 6 $75,000 Unsportsmanlike conduct
2015 17 $50,000 Late hit
2015 14 $69,454 Three unsportsmanlike conduct penalties
2014 6 $25,000 Two unsportsmanlike conduct penalties
2013 8 $21,000 Spearing
2013 6 $7,875 Facemask
2013 3 $31,000 Hit on defenseless player

Since coming into the league in 2012, this clown has 23 personal fouls and 15 unnecessary roughness flags. Both are tops in that span.
Not to mention almost half a million in fines and almost $4mil in forfeited game checks.
Yeah he needs to go. He was given many chances and blew them each time.

The league makes billions on its stars. Don’t need someone going against the grain taking out those stars.
OK so I found a video of all his hits


Some of these are cheap penalties that were crap

There are some I agree with there are others where its like come on he got fined for the way 2 steelers landed 1 tearing ACL the other Big Beg injuring his shoulder, he got fined for tackling Newton and other QB while they were scrambling. I can find way worse, the helmet to helmet ones I agree with, the after the whistle stuff ill agree with but at least a good 50% of his fines are complete and utter bull.
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