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Old 01-31-2021, 02:29 AM   #118581
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Because Stafford has definitely had a great team around him for the last decade... lmao.
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Old 01-31-2021, 02:42 AM   #118582
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Fun fact, the Rams haven't had a first round pick since Goff. Next first rounder, assuming it doesn't get traded, is in 2024. That's a minimum of seven straight seasons without a first.
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Old 01-31-2021, 02:54 AM   #118583
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Love this for the Lions (did I just type something positive about the Lions?).

Goff is definitely better than starting from scratch and you hope he can improve. But I feel better with him than Fields and giving up part of a different Lions trade to even move up to get the kid.

Lions certainly don’t draft well to say the least but you have to think maybe that will change. They will have an opportunity at a great player this year, can hope Goff improves and have at least 2 1st rounders in the next two drafts. One of them can be used on a better QB option than Fields if Goff doesn’t look like he can be a quality starter.

The Lions don’t deserve much faith but this is a very good deal for them if they are finally going to not be the worst franchise in the league.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:28 AM   #118584
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^ Stafford is MUCH better than Goff.
Maybe stats wise, but he isn't a winner...the stat that matters. He still turns the ball over too much, and most of his stats come in garbage time. Bears fans generally refer to him as Stat Paddford.

Rams got fleeced though. Two firsts and a third for a guy that's always hurt and/or in last place???

I guess the Rams really really wanted Goff gone.

I should add I don't think much better of Goff. Goff keeps the Lions in 4th place imo. We shall see what the Bears do at QB, but if they think putting Foles out there next year is the answer, they may fall to 4th.
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Old 01-31-2021, 06:05 AM   #118585
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The real win for Detroit is the picks; the real win for LA is getting rid of Goff.

Stafford is definitely better than Goff but it’s not like the Rams suddenly become NFC favorites. They might not even be the favorites in their division still.

But nice of Detroit to send Stafford where he wanted to go. Washington reportedly made a better offer.
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Old 01-31-2021, 07:34 AM   #118586
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I'm dreaming up a scenario in which cowboys and texans swap QB's.
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Old 01-31-2021, 07:54 AM   #118587
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I'm dreaming up a scenario in which cowboys and texans swap QB's.
Josh McCown new starting QB for Dallas.
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:53 AM   #118588
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I always liked Stafford a lot. He should do well with the Rams.
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Old 01-31-2021, 01:06 PM   #118589
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I know its just rumors, but be funny to see Rodgers also get traded in some crazy deal and have Kirk Cousins being the only elder QB on the NFC North.
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Old 01-31-2021, 01:07 PM   #118590
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Because Stafford has definitely had a great team around him for the last decade... lmao.
Wait a minute.... football is a team sport? If you listen to today’s sports media and those that consume it, you’d think QBs are out there playing against each other solo.

My Lions have won ONE playoff game since 1957. Yes, Stafford didn’t win a playoff game in his 12 seasons here. But in the 51 years before he was drafted, the Lions only won one playoff game. The lack of success for the Lions is much more of an organizational problem than a Stafford problem.
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Old 01-31-2021, 01:10 PM   #118591
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Wait a minute.... football is a team sport? If you listen to today’s sports media and those that consume it, you’d think QBs are out there playing against each other solo.

My Lions have won ONE playoff game since 1957. Yes, Stafford didn’t win a playoff game in his 12 seasons here. But in the 51 years before he was drafted, the Lions only won one playoff game. The lack of success for the Lions is much more of an organizational problem than a Stafford problem.
I wish Bears fans used this logic. So many tell me that if they just rid Trubisky, which they have now, if they just got Watson somehow, they'd be in Superbowl every year!!!

I mean, cause his 4-12 record on another garbage team was so impressive. And the Bears D is falling off hardcore, they still have an idiot for a coach and a bunch of WRs that cant get open and/or catch the ball.

But yeah, one QB will change everything they tell me.
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:48 PM   #118592
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I like the idea of the Dolphins using their draft picks to build around Tua and them proving me wrong about him, but I've never been big on Tua and the thought of Watson on the Dolphins just sounds great to me, obvious Clemson bias noted.

It would be a lot to give up for one player. Has doing that ever really worked out well for a team? Building the OL and WR positions with those picks would probably be the better decision. Will be interesting to see what they do.

I don't know where he will go, but despite what the odds makers say, I don't see Watson playing another snap for the Texans. He seems determined and it's not over money.

I wonder if the Jets are on his list of acceptable teams?
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Old 01-31-2021, 03:55 PM   #118593
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Huge win imo for Detroit, maybe I'm in the minority that thinks Stafford is not much more then Geoff, just a better contract and to then also give 2 1st round picks :eek.
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Old 01-31-2021, 04:02 PM   #118594
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Wow....draftkings LAR to win super bowl:

were +2,400 was 9th best.
now +1,100 ties for 3rd best.

Thats a HUGE jump.

DET +10,000 tied for last with HOU.

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Old 01-31-2021, 05:53 PM   #118595
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LOL Goff and Stafford are both second tier QBs, neither of them will ever win a SB.
Another bizarre statement from you. Stafford isn’t a 2nd tier QB. He’s an ALL-TIME GREAT. He’s already in the top 20 in passing yards, TD’s, and completions. He’ll be in the top 10 soon. By the end of his career, he may be in the top 5. Has he won? No, but what kind of running game and defense has he had? Who has he had at WR besides Calvin Johnson in earlier years? No one holds it against Marino for having crap teams. Similar issue with Stafford.

As for Goff, he’s young enough to have a great career. It’s just stupid to write a guy off at 26.
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Old 01-31-2021, 06:30 PM   #118596
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Vinny Testaverde is top 20 all-time in passing yards, TDs and completions. Is he an all-time great?
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:15 PM   #118597
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As a Bears fan, I have seen Stafford twice a year since he started on the Lions. Calling him ALL TIME GREAT is something I'd never say.

A lot of times his bad INTs are the reason the Lions lost so much. He might win a bit more going to the team with the #1 defense, but his mistakes will still cost wins as well.

Goff was almost just a one year wonder. He's had decent games here and there, but besides the Superbowl year, he's never been very consistent. Even that year, he looked downright terrible at Soldier Field. He is also no going to a worse all around team.
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:43 PM   #118598
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Vinny Testaverde is top 20 all-time in passing yards, TDs and completions. Is he an all-time great?
and top 5 in interceptions thrown so....no
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Old 01-31-2021, 08:45 PM   #118599
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That's how I always felt about Brett Favre.
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Another bizarre statement from you. Stafford isn’t a 2nd tier QB. He’s an ALL-TIME GREAT. He’s already in the top 20 in passing yards, TD’s, and completions. He’ll be in the top 10 soon. By the end of his career, he may be in the top 5. Has he won? No, but what kind of running game and defense has he had? Who has he had at WR besides Calvin Johnson in earlier years? No one holds it against Marino for having crap teams. Similar issue with Stafford.

As for Goff, he’s young enough to have a great career. It’s just stupid to write a guy off at 26.
But they do always say about Marino....never won the ring.
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