The Blu-ray Replacement Case Thread

[Put_The_Candle_Back]

That's good to know but you would think the person running the store would have posted a notice on the front page of the website to indicate this. I regularly go to a cell phone news/review site and whenever the person leaves to go on vacation they post a notice on the front page to indicate when they're leaving and when they are going to be back, so new news is going to be posted during this time.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by 314carpenter

Yes.
They wouldn't return my messages, so I called back. Too many times I guess. They blocked my number, and never returned my message.
Same with Email. I got through once, but no follow-up

Did you try contacting them through eBay?

I guess you have the answer above ^^.

[depooter]

4k 4 disc cases? can’t find em anywhere. thanks!

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by depooter

4k 4 disc cases? can’t find em anywhere. thanks!

Megadiscstore (egoodwoodshop) have them.

[depooter]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Megadiscstore (egoodwoodshop) have them.

thank you!!

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by depooter

thank you!!

Here's the link to their 4K 4-disc cases on eBay:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_dkr...224%20discs%22

[stmhlm]

A response from VIVA about the grease/residue:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=188
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=193

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

A response from VIVA about the grease/residue:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=188
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=193

Thanks for the confirmation. I've been saying it's mould releasant (what they're calling slippant) but many continued to claim it was off-gassing. Not to say off-gassing couldn't occur.

I wonder if some plants are using excessive mould releasant, not washing them sufficiently, using a dirty wash, no washing at all or a combination of these. I do see they didn't sufficiently answer all of your questions such as the "I'm not a chemist" comment. Of course, they have the chemical makeup of the products they use so they were pretty much blowing you off on that question.

I have noticed some cases are worse than others but it could come down to specific manufacturing plants. Though I haven't experienced the residue coming back after wiping cases down. DVD cases use a different plastic they're also matte so any residue is less likely to be seen unlike their glossy Blu-ray counterparts.

[stmhlm]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Thanks for the confirmation. I've been saying it's mould releasant (what they're calling slippant) but many continued to claim it was off-gassing. Not to say off-gassing couldn't occur.

Well, now at least it's confirmed, I think they've managed to solve off-gassing issues during their 20 years of manufacturing.

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I wonder if some plants are using excessive mould releasant, not washing them sufficiently, using a dirty wash, no washing at all or a combination of these. I do see they didn't sufficiently answer all of your questions such as the "I'm not a chemist" comment. Of course, they have the chemical makeup of the products they use so they were pretty much blowing you off on that question. I have noticed some cases are worse than others but it could come down to specific manufacturing plants.

I think so, my experience is that US (Mexico) releases are the worst, my guess would be poor injection molding machine maintenance and an increased amount of slipping agent in the polypropylene mix to "solve" the issue, but again I'm just guessing here.

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Though I haven't experienced the residue coming back after wiping cases down. DVD cases use a different plastic they're also matte so any residue is less likely to be seen unlike their glossy Blu-ray counterparts.

Are you not experiencing having to re-wipe replacement cases either? Yes, matte and/or opaque DVD cases are/were made with "homo-polymer" plastics, but still polypropylene. I have a white glossy DVD case 100% free of grease/residue, it's just down to the mixture, really.

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

Are you not experiencing having to re-wipe replacement cases either?

I've seen some replacement cases come with mild residue, but once it's been wiped off I haven't seen it reappear. In my opinion the replacement cases coming from Canada have less or minimal residue where as a lot of the retail releases come from Mexico and are the worst offenders.

[stmhlm]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I've seen some replacement cases come with mild residue, but once it's been wiped off I haven't seen it reappear. In my opinion the replacement cases coming from Canada have less or minimal residue where as a lot of the retail releases come from Mexico and are the worst offenders.

Gotcha, very helpful and informative!

[Blades1370]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

I've seen some replacement cases come with mild residue, but once it's been wiped off I haven't seen it reappear. In my opinion the replacement cases coming from Canada have less or minimal residue where as a lot of the retail releases come from Mexico and are the worst offenders.

Good information, thanks.

Recently purchased the Supernatural boxed set, sadly a good portion of the mulit-disc flipper trays refuse to hold onto the discs.

Since it's been probably 8+ years since I last bought replacement cases, are the Viva Elites still the best choice for 7-8 disc replacements and not Vortex?

Based on your comments, buying from Goodwood shop in Canada seems to be the best option for the aforementioned problem is residue?

[Spooked]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Megadiscstore (egoodwoodshop) have them.

The last ones I bought from them 7 months ago were still covered in residue. Trying to find clean cases is getting ridiculous. I'm about ready to just import all future purchases from the UK.

[eddebaby]

Hi, I am looking for a replacement case for Shout! Factory's Freaks and Geeks 9-disc collection.

Thanks to someone already asking a similar question (here, and here), I am pretty sure the case I am looking for is a Vortex. There are 2 of these cases in the set, and luckily I have 1 of them: It is a 4-Disc case, with 2 sprockets, no trays, and a (guessed) 15.8mm (5/8") spine.

See the attachment or here for a photo.

The product number is PM1556-1
The patent number listed is 6.123.192

Are these still produced?
Are there any other cases that have the same spine width?
The Freaks and Geeks cover art cover art does not fit on a Viva Elite 15mm 4-Disc or any of the other 15mm cases I have. The spine of this discussed case is definitely wider than 15mm.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Thanks for the confirmation. I've been saying it's mould releasant (what they're calling slippant) but many continued to claim it was off-gassing. Not to say off-gassing couldn't occur.

I wonder if some plants are using excessive mould releasant, not washing them sufficiently, using a dirty wash, no washing at all or a combination of these. I do see they didn't sufficiently answer all of your questions such as the "I'm not a chemist" comment. Of course, they have the chemical makeup of the products they use so they were pretty much blowing you off on that question.

I have noticed some cases are worse than others but it could come down to specific manufacturing plants. Though I haven't experienced the residue coming back after wiping cases down. DVD cases use a different plastic they're also matte so any residue is less likely to be seen unlike their glossy Blu-ray counterparts.

It must be a combination of the releasant and the offgassing. I just took a look at my Peter Jackson's King Kong 3-disc UHD set, and the entire case inside is covered in this residue, and it's all over the discs, too. I cleaned that about 2 years ago - took over an hour to get in all the nooks and crannies with a micro-fiber cloth, and cleaned the discs too. Now it's all back, like I didn't even do all that.

And since Viva doesn't seem to know or care what effect that releasant or off-gassing has on discs long-term, none of us really know if it's harmful to the disc if it stays on the disc surface for years.

[stmhlm]

Originally Posted by mar3o

It must be a combination of the releasant and the offgassing...

I would be careful mentioning 'off-gassing' - I really don't think that's the issue, off-gassing creates cosmetic imperfections on the surface that cannot be wiped off (see link below on quick Google search) VIVA has 20 years of experience with injection molding, you'd think they'd have nailed all off-gassing issues by now (no pun intended) so it's really not off-gassing, that would show immediately in production and quality control, what we're seeing I'm 99,999% sure indeed is the release/slipping agent that breeds/seeps to the surface of the polypropylene, as it is mixed with the polypropylene prior to the molding, cases that come out of all VIVA plants I bet look spotless once ejected out of their cavities and molding machines, like truly spotless, but it's at that exact time the issue starts, the release/slipping agent starts breeding/seeping to the surface, like a continuous process that basically never stops, hence why you need to wipe them again and again.

https://www.ptonline.com/articles/ho...ection-molding

Again, US releases looking much much worse than UK releases, a simple guess then leaves different polypropylene mixtures, alluding to a higher degree and/or percentage of release/slipping agent in the US/NA production of cases.

Your King Kong set is a US release, right?

[rdodolak]

Updated the OP.

[stmhlm]

Originally Posted by rdodolak

Updated the OP.

I'll link some more EU-based shops, OP is mostly US/CA, see below:

https://www.anoli-shop.de/shop_Anolishop.html
https://www.nierle.com/ (https://www.nierle.com/en/category/1...-_Storage.html)
https://www.cd-fachmarkt.de/ (https://www.cd-fachmarkt.de/shop/Blu-Ray-Huellen.htm)

[rdodolak]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

I'll link some more EU-based shops, OP is mostly US/CA, see below:

https://www.anoli-shop.de/shop_Anolishop.html
https://www.nierle.com/ (https://www.nierle.com/en/category/1...-_Storage.html)
https://www.cd-fachmarkt.de/ (https://www.cd-fachmarkt.de/shop/Blu-Ray-Huellen.htm)

Thanks, I'll take a look. The thread is mostly US/CA because it was originally in the NA Blu-ray forum...not sure when it actually got moved here, but I noticed that today.

[mar3o]

Originally Posted by stmhlm

I would be careful mentioning 'off-gassing' - I really don't think that's the issue, off-gassing creates cosmetic imperfections on the surface that cannot be wiped off (see link below on quick Google search) VIVA has 20 years of experience with injection molding, you'd think they'd have nailed all off-gassing issues by now (no pun intended) so it's really not off-gassing, that would show immediately in production and quality control, what we're seeing I'm 99,999% sure indeed is the release/slipping agent that breeds/seeps to the surface of the polypropylene, as it is mixed with the polypropylene prior to the molding, cases that come out of all VIVA plants I bet look spotless once ejected out of their cavities and molding machines, like truly spotless, but it's at that exact time the issue starts, the release/slipping agent starts breeding/seeping to the surface, like a continuous process that basically never stops, hence why you need to wipe them again and again.

https://www.ptonline.com/articles/ho...ection-molding

Again, US releases looking much much worse than UK releases, a simple guess then leaves different polypropylene mixtures, alluding to a higher degree and/or percentage of release/slipping agent in the US/NA production of cases.

Your King Kong set is a US release, right?

Yup, US release.

So still, if this is not off-gassing, and instead, purely the release agent, then it still begs the question, since they have years of experience making these, why do they not know (or care) that their release agent is causing this issue?