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Old 07-25-2014, 06:00 PM   #3781
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Blu-ray is 6x DVD, not 16.
No! It's 6x the storage space, 16x the resolution!
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Old 07-25-2014, 06:55 PM   #3782
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No! It's 6x the storage space, 16x the resolution!
Normal NTSC DVD resolution is 720x480 (345,600 pixels), 1080p bluray is 1920x1080 (2,073,600 pixels) 2,073,600/345,600 = 6. It's 6x the resolution.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:08 PM   #3783
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No! It's 6x the storage space, 16x the resolution!
Kenoh, when someone corrects you, read it up. There's a lot you need to learn before you embarrass yourself any further.
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:10 PM   #3784
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Normal NTSC DVD resolution is 720x480 (345,600 pixels), 1080p bluray is 1920x1080 (2,073,600 pixels) 2,073,600/345,600 = 6. It's 6x the resolution.
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Kenoh, when someone corrects you, read it up. There's a lot you need to learn before you embarrass yourself any further.
Guys, I think he was being facetious (hence the wink).
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Old 07-25-2014, 07:32 PM   #3785
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No brain surgeons left in the house? Ergo, no Lucy joy on the axial section through….da brain? Well, it’s certainly above the level of the sella. o.k., since we probably don’t have any rocket scientists on staff either, a question to ponder for the engineers (de-greed and un- de-greed). Do quality medical grade LCD displays possess at least 10-bit panel drivers and 10-bit processing?
I would think so, yes.

I am curious that in Windows there is an option for 32-bit "True" color in the display properties. I know that the PC has always been far ahead of TV display technologies. Progressive scan CRT monitors have been commonplace since the early 1990s, but it wasn't until the mid 2000s that you could easily get a progressive scan TV. Is there a PC color space display standard like there is for HDTV? As much as I like my plasma TV, the color on my widescreen CRT monitor (1920x1200, 24-bit color with WUXGA analog connection) looks better to me. Is it really possible that PCs have had 24-bit color for decades, whereas TVs have just gotten to 8 bit color? I am still not well versed on the 4:4:4 or 4:2:0 nomenclature for color/luminance/chroma etc, so this might play a role.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:06 PM   #3786
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I'm under the impression that reframing occurs during the DI process, thus, after the files have been compressed to 2K...
I'm meaning that vfx folk pan off (when needed) the 4K files which they are sent.
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Old 07-25-2014, 08:12 PM   #3787
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I would think so, yes.
You think right. More precision is demanded by users in order to make morbidity and mortality decisions as compared to consumer entertainment applications.
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I am curious that...
Vargo? Richard?, Peter, anyone get in on this ^ . Steed et al I’m out the office and now on a pilgrimage (actually an invite from a friend) to finally find salvation from golf, scroll down, as there’s one in my neck of the woods…http://www.footgolf.net/courses.html

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Old 07-25-2014, 08:54 PM   #3788
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I would think so, yes.

I am curious that in Windows there is an option for 32-bit "True" color in the display properties. I know that the PC has always been far ahead of TV display technologies. Progressive scan CRT monitors have been commonplace since the early 1990s, but it wasn't until the mid 2000s that you could easily get a progressive scan TV. Is there a PC color space display standard like there is for HDTV? As much as I like my plasma TV, the color on my widescreen CRT monitor (1920x1200, 24-bit color with WUXGA analog connection) looks better to me. Is it really possible that PCs have had 24-bit color for decades, whereas TVs have just gotten to 8 bit color? I am still not well versed on the 4:4:4 or 4:2:0 nomenclature for color/luminance/chroma etc, so this might play a role.
No, 24-bit True Color is just 3 channels each of 8-bits. The panel required to fully display this would be called an 8-bit panel in the spec sheet or usually just 16.7M.

32-bit adds an extra channel for opacity (alpha) but each channel still only has 8-bits of depth. The alpha channel is only relevant inside the graphics system.

When we talk about 10-bit colour, we're talking about 3 channels each of length 10-bits.
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:37 PM   #3789
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Guys, I think he was being facetious (hence the wink).
I'm surprised they took it seriously! I don't think they ever heard of sarcasm
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Old 07-25-2014, 10:52 PM   #3790
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Kenoh, when someone corrects you, read it up. There's a lot you need to learn before you embarrass yourself any further.
BozQ, when I'm replying to someone and a third party like you can't take a joke, read up SARCASM, so you don't embarrass yourself any further...
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:05 AM   #3791
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BozQ, when I'm replying to someone and a third party like you can't take a joke, read up SARCASM, so you don't embarrass yourself any further...
I think you and I have to mutually agree not to talk to each other. I'm not embarrassed. But I do apologize for being personal in my remarks earlier. And I'm sorry. Good day to you.
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I think you and I have to mutually agree not to talk to each other. I'm not embarrassed. But I do apologize for being personal in my remarks earlier. And I'm sorry. Good day to you.
Fine, I think we can be adults here and by the way, apology excepted. If you choose not to want speak that's ok by me, just remember the comment was for the original poster and he handled it quite well!

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Old 07-26-2014, 01:46 PM   #3793
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Normal NTSC DVD resolution is 720x480 (345,600 pixels), 1080p bluray is 1920x1080 (2,073,600 pixels) 2,073,600/345,600 = 6. It's 6x the resolution.
For us older video folks, we talked in terms of horizontal resolution and vertical resolution. Pixel density makes for good ad copy but the fact is you will only see 2.67 times more fence post on BD than on DVD. Same for UHD, only 2 times more fence post than HD.
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Old 07-26-2014, 03:17 PM   #3794
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For us older video folks, we talked in terms of horizontal resolution and vertical resolution. Pixel density makes for good ad copy but the fact is you will only see 2.67 times more fence post on BD than on DVD. Same for UHD, only 2 times more fence post than HD.
wouldn't how many "fence post" you see depend on how many fence posts were recorded? Now if you want to discuss stripes, I agree with you that from HD to UHD it will be 2x (horizontally or vertically), but why are stripes more than checkerboard squares or a weave (both horizontal and vertical stripes at the same time) and then you have 4k.

the horizontal resolution was there in the video world of the past because it was well defined due to the interlaced nature of TV and the lines of resolution. Vertical resolution joined the jargon because of the different AR and a way for TV manufacturers to BS a bit.

I don't see why you have an issue with people discussing total resolution that comprises both the vertical and horizontal resolution.
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Old 07-26-2014, 06:40 PM   #3795
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Additionally (although not mentioned in the interview with Lucy’s DP just posted online yesterday by fd times - http://www.fdtimes.com/2014/07/24/lu...-arbogast-afc/ )….
Full special report on Luc Besson’s Lucy by fdtimes is now available online…https://www.dropbox.com/s/g3dxfrru1l...ial_Report.pdf

On a sensitive note, Luc is a founding member of the Brain & Spine Institute based at the Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital in Paris. On a more technical note, on p.5 in the background to the gorgeous Scarlett Johansson, this time, rather than an MRI, shown on the display are computerized axial tomographic sections thru…..da brain.
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Old 07-26-2014, 06:46 PM   #3796
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I think you and I have to mutually agree not to talk to each other....
Well, as an independent observer to the past discourse, I hope you still talk to me….if only to drop in once in a blu moon to say “Hi, Penton, whaz up?” for I find you to be a good guy ….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...od#post8134717

Latest news concerning/effecting theater operators here in the good ole U.S. of A…..http://www.ada.gov/regs2014/movie_nprm_index.htm
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Old 07-26-2014, 09:27 PM   #3797
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Well, as an independent observer to the past discourse, I hope you still talk to me….if only to drop in once in a blu moon to say “Hi, Penton, whaz up?” for I find you to be a good guy
Yup, and I suppose I'm the bad guy...
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Old 07-27-2014, 03:15 PM   #3798
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wouldn't how many "fence post" you see depend on how many fence posts were recorded?
Fence post were used for an illustration. Take a look at a professional resolution chart (ISO 12233) and you will see H and V patterns and all measurements are in terms of H and V resolution. The fact is UHD should show twice as many post as HDTV, not four times as many as implied in ad copy. In simplistic terms H resolution (analog) is a function of video bandwidth and the number of columns pickup device has. The V resolution is a function of the number of rows on the pickup device.

The same for printers, a 600 dpi printer should print twice as many post as a 300 dpi printer not four time even tho the pixel density of a 600 dpi printer is four times that of a 300 dpi printer.
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Old 07-27-2014, 05:47 PM   #3799
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Yup, and I suppose I'm the bad guy...
Definitely


C’mon kenoh -


As far as I’m concerned, even if you were a real property owner who is into skullduggery, you live too far south of the Marcellus Shale (http://stateimpact.npr.org/pennsylvania/drilling/) to do anyone significant harm anyway. I simply didn't want Boz to leave the thread with a bad taste in his mouth as he's proved his mettle over the years.
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I see you’re a potential fan? of Birdman .... https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...an#post9313995

Moi aussi , wait a moment….
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