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Old 01-01-2018, 05:08 AM   #9301
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You said "HD video". HD is <2K. But if you think you're getting 6K for every frame on 35mm (especially when the people who spout those claims don't even transfer from the negative) then you're mistaken.
Mastering decides what we get on home video.
(And is THE most important step for us watching at home).
Watch these edifying and eye opening videos from the Cinematographer who did the Last Jedi. K's are not really the most important thing at all.
http://yedlin.net/ResDemo/#
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Old 01-01-2018, 07:44 PM   #9302
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the Cinematographer who did the Last Jedi.
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...c#post14474944. I'd say a good 10% of the film is fuzzy and the HDR was a missed opportunity at least with regards to blacks.

b.t.w., keep in mind, not everyone in the technical community agreed as to the merit of Steve Y.’s experiments to begin with, e.g. –
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Old 01-01-2018, 09:33 PM   #9303
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Mastering decides what we get on home video.
(And is THE most important step for us watching at home).
Watch these edifying and eye opening videos from the Cinematographer who did the Last Jedi. K's are not really the most important thing at all.
http://yedlin.net/ResDemo/#
I saw those videos a while ago thanks, although it's strange that you're championing a viewpoint which basically says K's don't matter given how you've been ragging on stuff being being shot in "HD" and stating that 35mm is 6K etc. I guess it didn't matter after all, eh?
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Old 01-02-2018, 12:17 AM   #9304
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Apparently, at least in its limited release, Phantom Thread will only be available in 70mm or 4K digital at Paul Thomas Anderson's insistence. No D.I. either, they blew up the 35mm camera negative for a 65mm interpositive instead.
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Old 01-04-2018, 05:49 PM   #9305
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ICYMI, the discussion wrt The Post with Janusz Kaminski starts at 6 min. to ~ 19min. timestamp of the podcast which is now available online -
https://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/sh...inski-the-post

Insights from a Master ^.
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Old 01-05-2018, 05:01 PM   #9306
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The Post, 4K DI
4K DCP, yes.


The Commuter (2018) - 4K DCP
Proud Mary (2018) - 4K DCP

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Old 01-05-2018, 05:59 PM   #9307
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4K DCP, yes.


The Commuter (2018) - 4K DCP
Proud Mary (2018) - 4K DCP
Proud Mary was shot at 4k mostly on a consumer grade Sony A7S II using Panavision Primo lenses to cover the full frame sensor (with an F55 for some of the action scenes). Nice to see it got a full 4k workflow.
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Old 01-06-2018, 08:16 AM   #9308
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Anyone heard anything about Don't Breathe or Taken 1/2/3 coming to 4K?����
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I saw those videos a while ago thanks, although it's strange that you're championing a viewpoint which basically says K's don't matter given how you've been ragging on stuff being being shot in "HD" and stating that 35mm is 6K etc. I guess it didn't matter after all, eh?
If "K" is your yardstick - 70mm and Imax still has more.

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Old 01-08-2018, 11:03 AM   #9310
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If it's [i]my[i] yardstick? I'm not the one who dismissed other movies as "HD" saying that film was 6K before undergoing a Damascene conversion and saying that "K's are not really the most important thing at all". You sure you haven't got a touch of whiplash bruv?
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24 Hours to Live (2017) - 4K DCP
Earth: One Amazing Day (2017) - 4K DCP (no surprise, since it's BBC)

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Just gotta ask, streaming or disc? cause there's way too much stuff on streaming that has yet to see a physical disc light of day.
Disc!
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=301082
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Old 01-12-2018, 10:50 PM   #9313
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Phantom Thread (2017) 4K DCP. Shot on film btw.
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Phantom Thread (2017) 4K DCP. Shot on film btw.
Yeah, as I mentioned earlier, there is no D.I. either. Rather FotoKem blew up the 35mm negative and it used a 65mm/70mm I.P.

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If it's [i]my[i] yardstick? I'm not the one who dismissed other movies as "HD" saying that film was 6K before undergoing a Damascene conversion and saying that "K's are not really the most important thing at all". You sure you haven't got a touch of whiplash bruv?
35mm is 6K. But you can make any film or HD video movie look terrible regardless of K. K is not the only measure of a picture. But the insistance on K being an important factor for others to judge the "quality" of an image goaded me into simply expressing that film has always had higher K.
I, myself, don't use that as a measurement for quality. Film having more K than digital for the last 20 years was simply a factual statement.
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Proud Mary was shot at 4k mostly on a consumer grade Sony A7S II using Panavision Primo lenses to cover the full frame sensor (with an F55 for some of the action scenes). Nice to see it got a full 4k workflow.
Ahhhh this explains why the trailer looked so cheap.
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Old 01-15-2018, 04:41 PM   #9317
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35mm is 6K. But you can make any film or HD video movie look terrible regardless of K. K is not the only measure of a picture. But the insistance on K being an important factor for others to judge the "quality" of an image goaded me into simply expressing that film has always had higher K.
I, myself, don't use that as a measurement for quality. Film having more K than digital for the last 20 years was simply a factual statement.
You'd be lucky to pull 4K from the average 35mm negative (but SCANNING at 6K or higher is recommended due to Nyquist et al) and a release print is somewhere around 2K, but carry on.
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I wonder when we'll hear about a Lawrence of Arabia 4k release? The Blu-ray was top notch A+.

Was wondering because a theater where I live is showing a 4k restoration of the film.
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I don't do streaming but I'm seriously considering dropping the £7.99 that amazon are asking for the 4K streaming version once my internet is upgraded in about a week's time.
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I don't do streaming but I'm seriously considering dropping the £7.99 that amazon are asking for the 4K streaming version once my internet is upgraded in about a week's time.
Get an Apple 4K TV.

It's about as good as you can get for streaming, IMO.
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