Golden Age 3-D Features

[Interdimensional]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

I have invested in 3D big style up until now. I truly love and appreciate the classics as well as modern. It surely can't have escaped everyone's notice though, that the tv manufacturers are dropping 3D from a large selection of their sets this year. Some are not offering the option at all.

That certainly seems to be the case with Samsung, and it's not a concern so easily dismissed. But the issue for us is how do we respond? Do we just follow their lead? Let them decide for us?

We've waited so long for it to even be possible to where we're at technologically. It's taken these films over 6 decades to where they can finally be presented as they were intended to be seen, with a level of convenience that makes them more accessible than ever. Regardless of what may or may not be going on in the wider market, there is finally some momentum in getting classic 50s 3-D out there. This isn't a bandwagon we just hopped on yesterday, and we're not about to hop off tomorrow.

In time any predictions and pronouncements about the 'death of 3-D' may turn out to be as premature as they always do. A bump in the road. We can't allow that to derail this train. The deals involved in bringing these Golden Age 3-D movies to disc can be precarious and always at risk of coming undone. The ever present threat that they'll released flat, cancelled, or delayed indefinitely. Each one that makes it is a triumph.

And I can't wait to see what's next!

[Robert Furmanek]

Shout would have released BWANA DEVIL flat if we didn't make a lot of noise. At least now there is a possibility of a 3-D release, if a license can be acquired.

There are currently two Golden Age 3-D titles in danger of flat release on Blu-ray and if/when they are announced, it will be time to (once again) light the torches.

[Interdimensional]

When the time comes, I'll be sure to kick up a fuss!

I hope it all works out for Bwana Devil.

[Biss Skyler Bluray]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Shout would have released BWANA DEVIL flat if we didn't make a lot of noise. At least now there is a possibility of a 3-D release, if a license can be acquired.

There are currently two Golden Age 3-D titles in danger of flat release on Blu-ray and if/when they are announced, it will be time to (once again) light the torches.

i agree with you 100 percent, i will not stand by and watch these get 2d only versions, if they do, us 3d fans will be very angry.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

That certainly seems to be the case with Samsung, and it's not a concern so easily dismissed. But the issue for us is how do we respond? Do we just follow their lead? Let them decide for us?

We've waited so long for it to even be possible to where we're at technologically. It's taken these films over 6 decades to where they can finally be presented as they were intended to be seen, with a level of convenience that makes them more accessible than ever. Regardless of what may or may not be going on in the wider market, there is finally some momentum in getting classic 50s 3-D out there. This isn't a bandwagon we just hopped on yesterday, and we're not about to hop off tomorrow.

In time any predictions and pronouncements about the 'death of 3-D' may turn out to be as premature as they always do. A bump in the road. We can't allow that to derail this train. The deals involved in bringing these Golden Age 3-D movies to disc can be precarious and always at risk of coming undone. The ever present threat that they'll released flat, cancelled, or delayed indefinitely. Each one that makes it is a triumph.

And I can't wait to see what's next!

it will take a collective effort IMO. Facebook, Twitter etc..

I agree with your points, I am 39 and I am experiencing these films for the first time in 3D. I'm sure that's true of many of us.

This may sound naive but if it's the glasses that are the cost, why not just settle for passive as the standard and people could just buy the glasses at the cinema or in shops? Or is it the actual technology in the tv that costs so much? I don't really understand why they are excluding the 3D option. I am just a film fanatic, I don't really understand all the internal stuff.

[Interdimensional]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

This may sound naive but if it's the glasses that are the cost, why not just settle for passive as the standard and people could just buy the glasses at the cinema or in shops? Or is it the actual technology in the tv that costs so much? I don't really understand why they are excluding the 3D option. I am just a film fanatic, I don't really understand all the internal stuff.

That's how I think it should've been from day one. Anyway, passive glasses are inexpensive enough to bundle in with tvs, and so widely available that it wouldn't matter if they didn't.

The cost of licensing the patents involved could presumably be an issue. Pure speculation here, but perhaps after 'abandoning' 3-D they might be able to use that as leverage to help negotiate a better deal. Or perhaps they'll notice an effect on their sales, it's not impossible. If 10 or 20% of their customers went over to LG, they'd have to consider whether that was worth the money they saved, although it's always hard to demonstrate cause and effect.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

That's how I think it should've been from day one. Anyway, passive glasses are inexpensive enough to bundle in with tvs, and so widely available that it wouldn't matter if they didn't.

The cost of licensing the patents involved could presumably be an issue. Pure speculation here, but perhaps after 'abandoning' 3-D they might be able to use that as leverage to help negotiate a better deal. Or perhaps they'll notice an effect on their sales, it's not impossible. If 10 or 20% of their customers went over to LG, they'd have to consider whether that was worth the money they saved, although it's always hard to demonstrate cause and effect.

If they get rid of all the smart TVs crap, it would save money. There are many options for streaming services.

[revgen]

Revenge of the Creature and Taza, Son of Cochise have already been released on blu-ray overseas flat.

So far, the only one that has happened over here is Hondo. Hondo is probably one of the few golden age titles that could successfully double-dip on a 3-D release. I believe the rest need to be done right the first time.

[revgen]

Originally Posted by bavanut

I sat through Starchaser: The Legend of Orin twice in one day back in November of '85. Me personally, I thoroughly enjoyed it. I too would dearly love to see that title on Blu-Ray.

(When it came out, I convinced the manager of our local United Artists Theater to give me 50 free pairs of glasses to use in my Super 8 3-D experiments. God bless him, that was a big help to me at the time. I was 14 years old and had no idea how else to obtain a large number of polarized glasses.)

As for It Came from Outer Space, just you wait. That flick is going to knock your socks off. Great story, fine cast, slick production values, and the 3-D is really some of the very best ever. There are very few vintage 3-D movies I dislike, but that one belongs on my top shelf. I love it.

Starchaser currently has a DCP ready to go for theatrical distribution and 3-D Blu-Ray release.

Starchaser

Starchaser: The Legend of Orin was the world’s first stereoscopic 3-D animated feature. Now, digitally re-mastered in 3-D for projection in state-of-the-art digital theaters, Starchaser is available for global distribution. This groundbreaking animated 3-D sci-fi adventure has attained cult status among its many fans around the world. Starchaser is the story of young Orin, a slave from a hellish crystal mine, who digs his way up to the planet’s surface in search of a mysterious sword blade that legend says will lead his people to freedom. But rather than freedom, Orin discovers an unfamiliar universe of ruthless people and dangerous places. His journey leads him to discover that the ruler of the mine world is actually an evil android who is one step away from conquering the human race. There is only one thing in his way—Orin’s sword.

http://www.hahnscottproductions.com/Projects.htm

I've yet to see this film at all. Either flat or 3-D. It definitely looks interesting.

[Ray O. Blu]

Not sure if this one was mentioned yet:

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[revgen]

I saw a dual 35mm print of The French Line 3 years ago and absolutely enjoyed it. I hope Warner Bros can offer a 3-D Blu-Ray sometime in the future.

[Smaugone]

Still hoping the Three Stooges 3D shorts could be added to one of the vintage films as a bonus or something.....
Maybe on 3D Rarities vol.2....
Still have painful memories from that anaglyph dvd a few years ago.

[Robert Furmanek]

Dr. Edwin H. Land was born on this date in 1909. Most famous for the Polaroid line of cameras, his creation of polarizing sheet material made full-color 3-D movies possible. They were first shown publicly in January 1936 and nearly every 3-D film exhibited for the next several decades was seen in high quality, polarized 3-D.

[Interdimensional]

Those glasses look decent quality. From pictures I've seen, I had the impression cardboard frames were more widely used. Do you know if this was the case?

Also what was "Royal Flush"?

[Zivouhr]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

Those glasses look decent quality. From pictures I've seen, I had the impression cardboard frames were more widely used. Do you know if this was the case?

Also what was "Royal Flush"?

I agree, they look like the quality of 3D glasses we get in theaters today.

[Interdimensional]

yeah, similar design to Real D glasses. I presume they'd still be compatible with the linear polarization used by Imax if any pairs still exist.

[Robert Furmanek]

Originally Posted by Interdimensional

Those glasses look decent quality. From pictures I've seen, I had the impression cardboard frames were more widely used. Do you know if this was the case?

Also what was "Royal Flush"?

Not sure about the glasses but ROYAL FLUSH was a re-title of STEREO TECHNIQUES.

[bavanut]

IMAX decided to buck convention when it comes to linear polarizers in passive glasses. For many years, the standard for 3-D glasses has been 45/135 linear polarization: The left-eye polarizer is at a 45-degree angle and the right eye polarizer is at a 135-degree angle. IMAX decided to employ 0/90 polarization in its glasses, perhaps to prevent exhibitors obtaining glasses from outside vendors. (It may be that IMAX follows a different policy outside North America; I cannot say for sure.)

[Robert Furmanek]

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[Interdimensional]

Originally Posted by Robert Furmanek

Not sure about the glasses but ROYAL FLUSH was a re-title of STEREO TECHNIQUES.

If I'd dug a little deeper, I should have found the entry on your website! I was assuming it was a feature, possibly retitled or canceled.

Originally Posted by bavanut

IMAX decided to buck convention when it comes to linear polarizers in passive glasses. For many years, the standard for 3-D glasses has been 45/135 linear polarization: The left-eye polarizer is at a 45-degree angle and the right eye polarizer is at a 135-degree angle. IMAX decided to employ 0/90 polarization in its glasses, perhaps to prevent exhibitors obtaining glasses from outside vendors. (It may be that IMAX follows a different policy outside North America; I cannot say for sure.)

thanks, you've always prove reliable with obscure technical minutiae relating to stereoscopy