4K Movies Releases

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

SGO

For those unfamiliar with the company, SGO…http://www.sgo.es/2015/11/kyoshin-un...-interbee2015/

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I know. I'm a CP fan remember.
And don't be surprised if I venture down further south to your current neck of the woods to see waz up there.

You're welcome any time, you'd have to find it first though!

[Geoff D]

^ just to add to The Martian gumbo, the ASC interview with Wolski from the November 2015 issue confirms that it was *originally* finished at 2K using 2192x1156 extractions. It also confirms that Sony's The Walk (also shot by Wolski) was definitely finished at 2K for both the 2D and 3D (duh) versions.

[Richard Paul]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

Meanwhile they're building entire workflows (infrastructure) around it...

Sure, but a lot of workflows also support HFR and supporters of HFR even made a recommendation to the DCI standard for frame rates up to 120 fps. I know that some people dislike HFR but in terms of capturing real life I think that HDR and HFR are in the same boat. If you are going to say that directors should use HDR in order to stay current than how is HFR any different?

[ray0414]

BREAKING NEWS:

Forest Gump will never truly get a 4k grade because they used CGI to make Lt. Dan be legless

[ray0414]

The 4k uhd disc can only be as good as the cameras used. Whether the cameras were set at 6k or cropped to 5k, its still above 4k and will look amazing on disc, especially after hdr grading. That's my whole point. There's this notion going around that because this movie has a 2k DI that anything and everything you will see on a uhd disc is 2k upscaled to 4k. I haven't seen the blu ray, but everyone says that its a very clean looking version and this ultimately comes back to the cameras used, and both red epic/scarlet cameras are high quality 6k cameras.

There's a scene in the martian where Matt Damon is talking to his camera inside the Rover and your looking up at Matt Damon from the cameras view, who cares if that particular camera wasn't 4k? The best scenes in the movie use the best cameras, period. And I'm going to assume this is the case for every movie.

[Geoff D]

Let's just hope that The Martian's 4K rebuild will be the norm rather than the exception, I'm not taking such things for granted at this point.

[ray0414]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Let's just hope that The Martian's 4K rebuild will be the norm rather than the exception, I'm not taking such things for granted at this point.

100% agreed, and hopefully if we can push these studios they will make that information more readily available. If they don't use this method for all movies then I think we will be cheated out-of or money. We pay for the best product so we should get it.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Just for added emphasis, here's where The Martian's DP explains that technically they shot it in 5K because that's what the zoom lenses covered (having used zooms predominantly as a sort of 'one stop shop' instead of switching between primes and zooms all the time): http://www.angenieux.com/zoom-lenses...wolski-asc.htm

Good interview . Just finished reading it. Noteworthy to our membership from Poland is that Hoyte van Hoytema (Spectre) also attended the same film school as Dariusz.

As a sidebar, for those looking to fulfill the dream internationally….http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...s-world-811368

As to the U.S., well, y’all should know by now who is #1 and has been so for 3 years in a row…..http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lis...25-film-823664

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You're welcome any time, you'd have to find it first though!

Just tell me how they will respond at the local pub if I come in asking for a cold Coors Lite?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Just tell me how they will respond at the local pub if I come in asking for a cold Coors Lite?

Like you've come from another planet. The local ales are mighty fine though.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by ray0414

The 4k uhd disc can only be as good as the cameras used....

And how they are used. To put *detail* (which we’ve been discussing in past pages) into perspective, this paper by Pierre of Technicolor Hollywood is highly recommended reading material…..http://ieeexplore.ieee.org:80/Xplore...sp?reload=true

P.S.
If that link didn’t go thru with your browser then plug in the author search Pierre Hugues Routhier.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Let's just hope that The Martian's 4K rebuild will be the norm rather than the exception, I'm not taking such things for granted at this point.

Smart man ….given how much work such a project entails.....and studio tendencies.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Like you've come from another planet.

K-Pax - YouTube

Originally Posted by Geoff D

The local ales are mighty fine though.

They work for me too as long as the company is good.

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

^ just to add to The Martian gumbo, the ASC interview with Wolski from the November 2015 issue confirms that it was *originally* finished at 2K using 2192x1156 extractions. It also confirms that Sony's The Walk (also shot by Wolski) was definitely finished at 2K for both the 2D and 3D (duh) versions.

From Mr Deakins

I tested the difference in image quality between a 2K and a 4K DI when shooting 'In Time', which was shot on the Alexa in Uncompressed HD. I felt there was a substantial difference between the two and that is my argument for finishing in 4K.

[Pieter V]

Black Mass is btw now on VUDU UHD and Dolby Vision. Shot on Film with a 2K DI.

http://www.vudu.com/movies/#!content/696287/Black-Mass

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

From Mr Deakins

okay, but why are you telling me?

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

okay, but why are you telling me?

You said let me know if he replies.......

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by dvdmike

You said let me know if he replies.......

Oh. It would've helped if you'd quoted the actual post where I asked you to ask him. I'm a bit dense like that.

Thanks though, it just underlines what I said: even starting with 'only' 2.8K into a 4K finish will still give an appreciable benefit over a 2K finish (which will lose fully half the pixels from the 2.8K capture, never mind the more recent 3.4K Open Gate mode).

[dvdmike]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Oh. It would've helped if you'd quoted the actual post where I asked you to ask him. I'm a bit dense like that.

Thanks though, it just underlines what I said: even starting with 'only' 2.8K into a 4K finish will still give an appreciable benefit over a 2K finish (which will lose fully half the pixels from the 2.8K capture, never mind the more recent 3.4K Open Gate mode).

I looked for that post and could not find it, my bad.
Yep he saw a difference so it means we should in theory