Coronavirus (NO POLITICAL OR SOCIAL COMMENTARY PLEASE)

[Lacit170]

on another note, due to all the gloom and doom here, online, media. here are some hopeful facts to ponder. seriously, makes you question why the news is not actively pushing these facts but the answer is easy to see. if people had the facts, they would be less vigilant in following procedures which ultimately affects the elderly and people with preexisting conditions (for the most part). basically, humans are selfish by nature and if they know the likelihood of being affected are very low, they will simply not care. scare tactics, spread fear and watch everyone get in line.

99% of Those Who Died From Virus Had Other Illness, Italy Says

"The Rome-based institute has examined medical records of about 18% of the country’s coronavirus fatalities, finding that just three victims, or 0.8% of the total, had no previous pathology. Almost half of the victims suffered from at least three prior illnesses and about a fourth had either one or two previous conditions."

"More than 75% had high blood pressure, about 35% had diabetes and a third suffered from heart disease."

"The average age of those who’ve died from the virus in Italy is 79.5. As of March 17, 17 people under 50 had died from the disease. All of Italy’s victims under 40 have been males with serious existing medical conditions."

https://www.bloomberg.com/tosv2.html...l0YWx5LXNheXM=


for myself, i am worried about my children. i have heard that kids are basically not affected by all this. then i talk to friends who are hearing the opposite. so, here are some facts out of China to ease peoples minds with young children at home

"The study examined 2,143 confirmed or suspected pediatric cases of the coronavirus in China, where the pandemic started, and is the largest analysis yet of the illness in children. For the most part, it confirms what doctors have already noticed: that the coronavirus seems to mostly be sparing children, for reasons that are not entirely understood."

"Of the few children who do develop serious cases, those under 5 are the most at-risk, with infants under 1 year of age at the greatest danger, according to the study, which was published online in the journal Pediatrics.

But even those types of cases were few and far between. A total of 94.1 percent of the children were either asymptomatic or had mild or moderate cases, and only 5.9 percent of them had critical or severe cases, significantly lower than the 18.5 percent of adult patients who fell into that category in China during the same time frame, according to the study authors. Just one child died of the illness in China: a 14-year-old boy in Hubei, the province where the outbreak originated.

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/healt...worse-n1163001

[DVD Josh]

My state just cancelled the rest of the school year. Yours will all soon too.

This is brutal.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by MrHT

Nobody has but themselves to blame. It's been said repeatedly on the news to stay at home and if you have to go out, maintain social distancing. Nobody listens and because of that, the virus still continues to spread. This is a team effort and as long as everyone won't work as a team, the longer this pandemic will last...

That's the problem with the world today. People are selfish and only think of themselves. They don't care that their actions affect others.

thats actually not the point im making about this at all. its precisely the complete shutdown of society which is creating the collapse of our economy. has nothing to do with people not following protocol. see the data i just presented and ask youself, WHY the extreme hysteria?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

scare tactics, spread fear and watch everyone get in line.

No problem, can do - https://secure.jbs.elsevierhealth.co...sent?code=null
P.S. ugh, that prestigous journal article ^ apparently requires a cookie too in order to be viewed vis-a-vis this forum.
Give me a few moments and I’ll search for an easier to read layperson’s article from a news service for those without a medical background.

[Moe Szyslak]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

thats actually not the point im making about this at all. its precisely the complete shutdown of society which is creating the collapse of our economy. has nothing to do with people not following protocol. see the data i just presented and ask youself, WHY the extreme hysteria?

Because likelihood of death isn't the only relevant factor. Its long incubation period, ability to spread rapidly and the extremely high number of patients that require advanced equipment, such as ventilators, have quickly overwhelmed our medical facilities.

Nobody wanted the economy to collapse. But when the programs weren't in place to help mitigate the effects of this virus before it got here then we really don't have a choice.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

thats actually not the point im making about this at all. its precisely the complete shutdown of society which is creating the collapse of our economy. has nothing to do with people not following protocol. see the data i just presented and ask youself, WHY the extreme hysteria?

But people not following protocol is EXACTLY what led to the complete shutdown.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Lacit170

scare tactics, spread fear and watch everyone get in line.

No problem, can do - https://whyy.org/articles/think-your...ight-disagree/
(interviewing Docs from Philly - Jefferson, CHOP and Penn)

[AnamorphicWidescreen]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Teens filmed themselves coughing on others and on food at grocery store in Virginia

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...-grocery-store

NOT FUNNY. Little punks.

[MrHT]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Because likelihood of death isn't the only relevant factor. Its long incubation period, ability to spread rapidly and the extremely high number of patients that require advanced equipment, such as ventilators, have quickly overwhelmed our medical facilities.

That's living proof on how serious this is. Our hospitals are maxed at capacity right now. People can keep looking at the numbers and be like "Oh it's only a 1% death rate. Not bad at all." But the fact that our hospitals are about to crash due to an overload of patients that need medical attention just goes to show how bad of a situation we're currently in.

[Pondosinatra]

Hmmm had a 24hr ban....not sure what I even said, but considering my state at that point I likely was being a dick.

Apparently not as bad as AaronJ however lol.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Because likelihood of death isn't the only relevant factor. Its long incubation period, ability to spread rapidly and the extremely high number of patients that require advanced equipment, such as ventilators, have quickly overwhelmed our medical facilities.

Nobody wanted the economy to collapse. But when the programs weren't in place to help mitigate the effects of this virus before it got here then we really don't have a choice.

totally agree with the bolded. but we do have a choice in order to stop a global economic crash but people wont want to go that route. no, im not being heartless either, just speaking in facts and reality that there are different ways to go about this whole ordeal but somewhere along the line, people made the decision to intentionally collapse the economy. and we're ALL going to deal with it for yeas and years to come.

Originally Posted by MrHT

But people not following protocol is EXACTLY what led to the complete shutdown.

read above. these protocols are not the only way to handle a situation like this. just sayin. again, not being heartless

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

No problem, can do - https://whyy.org/articles/think-your...ight-disagree/
(interviewing Docs from Philly - Jefferson, CHOP and Penn)

that entire article is basically all "what if's" and "we dont know yets". what i take from that article, buried in the article are these quotes:

“While the vast majority of young people are going to be fine, we’re seeing reports here and there of when this isn’t going to be the case,” said Hunter."

reports "here and there" lol

"The good news is that, according to Summer, “most people recover lung function at one year.” So any lung damage might not be permanent."

so after all that info in the article, the end results remain the same. most will be fine

[The Great Owl]

Originally Posted by DVD Josh

My state just cancelled the rest of the school year. Yours will all soon too.

To everyone reading this...

Take yourself back to your senior year of high school. Suppose that, in mid-March, you were suddenly ordered to stay home for the rest of the year, and you realized that you would probably never spend time with your school friends in the same way ever again. No slow roll towards graduation. No parties in the weeks leading up to graduation. It's over. Your high school life as you knew it is over just like that.

That sucks. My eldest niece is a high school senior now, and this has been dropped on her head as well.

I moved to a new town with my family the summer before my own senior year in 1989, so my situation was a bit different than most, but I still would have missed those last few months.

[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

To everyone reading this...

Take yourself back to your senior year of high school. Suppose that, in mid-March, you were suddenly ordered to stay home for the rest of the year, and you realized that you would probably never spend time with your school friends in the same way ever again. No slow roll towards graduation. No parties in the weeks leading up to graduation. It's over. Your high school life as you knew it is over just like that.

That sucks. My eldest niece is a high school senior now, and this has been dropped on her head as well.

I moved to a new town with my family the summer before my own senior year in 1989, so my situation was a bit different than most, but I still would have missed those last few months.

I would've jumped for joy. Hated every single second I had to spend in school.

[Moe Szyslak]

Cool, there's a drive-through testing site in Philadelphia. You have to be over 50 and showing symptoms, but a Doctor's referral is not required.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/philade...en-sunday/amp/

[Chaotic]

High school was the worst 4 years of life. Every day was a pain to get through.

[InuYashaCrusade]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

High school was the worst 4 years of life. Every day was a pain to get through.

School in general was hell for me. From age 5 to 17, I despised having to go.

[Lacit170]

Originally Posted by Moe Szyslak

Cool, there's a drive-through testing site in Philadelphia. You have to be over 50 and showing symptoms, but a Doctor's referral is not required.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/philade...en-sunday/amp/

age discrimination smh...were all at equal risk, right???!!!

snarky comments aside. this is good, more testing the better. i find it awkward that someone will be shoving a swab to my brain standing outside my car though.

[Cremildo]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

School in general was hell for me. From age 5 to 17, I despised having to go.

Same here. It actually kinda ruined my life.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Lee A Stewart

This issue or the National Guard:

https://www.kob.com/news/hill-talks-...82130/?cat=649

So it's up to the Governors if they want to call in the NG, not the Fed.

It's very expensive to hire the National Guard ... the Governors don't have that kind of money. Plus there are not enough masks for all the guards when the doctors and nurses are the ones who need them the most. It's all very complicated a pandemic when there isn't enough medical equipment and money. The USA doesn't have what it takes, they weren't expecting that one, they didn't prepare for it. Next pandemic they'll probably get better ready ...

[DanTheMan]

Originally Posted by InuYashaCrusade

I would've jumped for joy. Hated every single second I had to spend in school.

Originally Posted by Chaotic

High school was the worst 4 years of life. Every day was a pain to get through.

Originally Posted by Cremildo

Same here. It actually kinda ruined my life.

Same. Just depressing experiences (or lack thereof) overall, as everyone else besides me at least had something positive to remember those years by.

Still, as Great Owl suggested, there are those in today’s generation who gained life-long friends and had hoped to have an incredible senior year to cap it off before going their separate ways into adulthood, but all of those plans were cut off entirely (from the way it seems today). It’s a bit of a bummer, because what if it were you or your own kid in that situation?