IMAX Enhanced

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by slimdude

The facts is all over the net. If you're a multi-million or billionaire, you can buy just about anything you want, including having your own custom IMAX theater build on your estate, but be prepared to spend well over a million dollars to have it done. Like you would have to hire a professional IMAX projectionist, and sound technician to operate the equipment for you because, you won't know how to do it yourself. Most people don't have that kind of money to spend on a custom made home theater, so they'll go to a IMAX theater to get the full IMAX experience. Generally, would it be worth spending that kind of money on a home theater, if a person is not there all the time to watch movies on a regular basis anyway? The answer is no.

Yep.

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

HDR10+ is supported by IE. I have IE UHD demo disc and it has HDR10+

Not according to this quote from Sound and Vision magazine:


"IMAX teamed up with DTS to develop the audio part of IMAX Enhanced, and it's built around the DTS:X immersive audio codec with its added height speakers. On the video side, HDR10 high dynamic range enhancement is used rather than Dolby Vision or HDR10+."


Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...LFE9cxevmHV.99

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Oh yeah, "THX Certification is a true seal of quality. From TVs and speaker systems to 4K HDMI cables".

Those are many example where the certification of any device that is questionable.

THX certified earphones by 1more. Are they really better then a lot of studio monitor earphones or other high-priced earphones out there. Heck no.

The same can be said with many things certified by THX. Its a example of a industry that pays to have some label attached that supposedly makes the product better. How about those Logitech Z625 THX Certified speakers, same thing, they sound awful.

I'm not knocking everything that THX does, but it did turn into a joke.

The common misconception is that THX Certified means better. Even as a THX guy, I’m saying it’s wrong. THX certifications mean that a given product meets or exceeds the THX standards. Can other products be better? Of course! But if you are coming in blind (such as myself when buying earphones), I know a THX Certified products will be at a level that is more than acceptable to my ears.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Not according to this quote from Sound and Vision magazine:


"IMAX teamed up with DTS to develop the audio part of IMAX Enhanced, and it's built around the DTS:X immersive audio codec with its added height speakers. On the video side, HDR10 high dynamic range enhancement is used rather than Dolby Vision or HDR10+."


Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...LFE9cxevmHV.99

See Should I Invest in IMAX Enhanced AV Gear? - Sound and Vision

I wouldn’t regard IMAX Enhanced as being in competition with Dolby and DTS. The program was actually launched in partnership with DTS, and the soundtrack on IMAX Enhanced discs and streams uses a variation on the same DTS:X codec currently supported by a wide range of AVRs and AV processors. Of course, all those same products also support Dolby Atmos — the dominant immersive audio format on the market. And the same can be said for Dolby Vision, an HDR flavor that enjoys a substantial lead over the HDR10+ format that’s so far been used exclusively for IMAX Enhanced 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray releases. (It should be noted here that both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ content provide a base HDR10 option for universal compatibility with HDR displays.)

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

Not according to this quote from Sound and Vision magazine:


"IMAX teamed up with DTS to develop the audio part of IMAX Enhanced, and it's built around the DTS:X immersive audio codec with its added height speakers. On the video side, HDR10 high dynamic range enhancement is used rather than Dolby Vision or HDR10+."


Read more at https://www.soundandvision.com/conte...LFE9cxevmHV.99

That sentence does NOT mean that DV and HDR10+ is not supported. It’s saying that HDR10 is a must. Besides, I was actually at the IE training session, and they mentioned it as such. Last but not least, ALL IE materials available including its own demo disc are using HDR10+.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

The common misconception is that THX Certified means better. Even as a THX guy, I’m saying it’s wrong. THX certifications mean that a given product meets or exceeds the THX standards. Can other products be better? Of course! But if you are coming in blind (such as myself when buying earphones), I know a THX Certified products will be at a level that is more than acceptable to my ears.

Unfortunately we have misconception that was the case, as you said coming into a product market blind you have more faith in certified products is true. The earphone/headphone marketplace is vast and the choices can be tough without a bit of research.

[sapiendut]

And making things worse, most IEM can’t be tried before you buy. So if I want to spend $100-$200 on earphones, I want something that’s at least fulfill a certain minimum standard.

[HDTV1080P]

As far as I am aware there is no display in the United States that offers both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. A consumer has to choose between one or the other. Hopefully Sony and LG will offer OLED's with HDR10+ to go along with the already included Dolby Vision HDR. Plus JVC and Sony hopefully one day will offer projectors with Dolby Vision HDR and HDR10+.

[slimdude]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

As far as I am aware there is no display in the United States that offers both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. A consumer has to choose between one or the other. Hopefully Sony and LG will offer OLED's with HDR10+ to go along with the already included Dolby Vision HDR. Plus JVC and Sony hopefully one day will offer projectors with Dolby Vision HDR and HDR10+.

You might as well forget it! Samsung is LG biggest competitors, and they are not going to implement HDR10+ on their TVs. That will be like McDonalds collaborating with Burger King.

[sapiendut]

Hehehehe. My upcoming Panasonic 65GZ1000 will have all the HDR standards.

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Hehehehe. My upcoming Panasonic 65GZ1000 will have all the HDR standards.

Last time I looked Panasonic is not a IMAX Enhanced partner (see here) so you display won't offer a IMAX Enhanced logo. Real shame.

[sapiendut]

That is correct, not IE partner, but it will have HDR, HLG, HDR10+ and DV

[HDTV1080P]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Hehehehe. My upcoming Panasonic 65GZ1000 will have all the HDR standards.

Its to bad Panasonic does not offer flat panels for sell in the United States. If there existed a OLED display that had all the HDR formats plus passive or active 3D technology. There would be a lot of consumers upgrading their displays.


Even though DLP projectors are King to motion quality and 3D image quality, I have read a lot of posts from people that want to upgrade their 3D capably 2010-2016 flat panel screen to a modern flat panel screen, however since modern flat panel screens have dropped the 3D feature some people are hanging onto their old 1080P or 4K flat panel because they do not want to lose their existing 3D feature.


The consumer electronics industry has forced consumers to buy a projector if they want the 3D feature. Which is fine for me since projectors are king when it comes to 3D quality, however its sad to see 3D flat panel technology might never return to the market place (less choices for consumers).

[BLMN]

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Last time I looked Panasonic is not a IMAX Enhanced partner (see here) so you display won't offer a IMAX Enhanced logo. Real shame.

lol all he need is to find an IE sticker and put on his set, done

[sapiendut]

Panasonic doesn’t want to play the BestBuy game where as part of Bb negotiations that any manufacturer have to kowtow to BB discounting schedule instead of letting the market and stock level decides. I remember when Pioneer needed to lower down their plasma prices even though they can’t fulfill the demand at a given price. This also kills the independent channels because they can not sell their low stocked merchandise at a decent price just because BB website dropped the plasma TV pricing although BB didn’t have them in stock.

As for the killing of 3D, this is because most 4K TVs (if not all) are only 60 Hz native and the requirement to do 3D is the utilization of 120 Hz panels. Since 3D is not an in-thing anymore, manufacturers just go with 4K 60 Hz panel as it is a lot more cost effective that way. (This was told by a giant manufacturer who shall remain unnamed)

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Panasonic doesn’t want to play the BestBuy game where as part of Bb negotiations that any manufacturer have to kowtow to BB discounting schedule instead of letting the market and stock level decides

It doesn’t work that way. BB doesn't dictate pricing, the vendor does, for example look at LG OLED’s BB sells that price, it changes weekly as LG decides. They will match other dealers, but then other LG dealers sell at the same price. BB also towards BF, acts as a b stock distribution point for same vendors to clear out models.

Panasonic completely screwed up selling Plasma displays when the rest of the industry had moved on is the main reason they left the USA marketplace. If there is one thing obvious about Panasonic is that they lack the production capacity to compete with other mainstay vendors in the USA, they floundered and now have to live with fact the competition has totally kicked them to the curb as far as market share. We certainly have enough dealers, store chains, but lame duck Panasonic doesn’t want to chance it. Cowards!

[Agent Kay]

Originally Posted by HDTV1080P

As far as I am aware there is no display in the United States that offers both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision HDR. A consumer has to choose between one or the other. Hopefully Sony and LG will offer OLED's with HDR10+ to go along with the already included Dolby Vision HDR. Plus JVC and Sony hopefully one day will offer projectors with Dolby Vision HDR and HDR10+.

We have to so much better in the uk with Phillips and Panafonics both offering it now and both offering quality above anything LG put out

[avs commenter]

If IE has a purpose, it may be that it's better suited for a huge screen or projector.

[eddievanhalen]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

We have to so much better in the uk with Phillips and Panafonics both offering it now and both offering quality above anything LG put out

I don't think that European Philips 4K HDR sets are better than LG ones, right the opposite.

[Auditor55]

Originally Posted by Agent Kay

We have to so much better in the uk with Phillips and Panafonics both offering it now and both offering quality above anything LG put out

Why do we need both when they're essentially doing the same thing, with one not really distinguishing itself from the other. In the end all it does is cause consumer confusion.