Sony introduces high-end ZD9 TV series with HDR

[JimShaw]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

That's what I am gonna do, just swap over to Home and let it be. Considering I don't have my meters anymore, I just want to use the best OOTB Mode for SDR and HDR. The good thing is these 2017 Sony's are damn accurate OOTB.

Sounds like you are very happy with your decision with the LED vs OLED

[elwaylite]

I actually have a 940E, but posted here because they have some similar traits. Love it so far, especially the 75" part.

[elwaylite]

Dolby Vision is now on the 940 and ZD9 pages

https://www.sony.com/electronics/tel...E-X940E-Series

[Geoff D]

Dang, now I'll need that Dolby Vision player...although I don't wanna spend a silly amount on the OPPO (remember kids, it retails for the equivalent of $850 over here in da yookay and that doesn't even include the MR mod) and I don't want that piece of shit LG. Even when the TV update arrives I'll hang on and see if by some miracle the X800 is also updated. If it's not I'll have to bite the OPPO bullet.

[elwaylite]

I want be dropping HDR10 for DV until I know for sure Calman is setup to allow for Dolby Vision cal like they now have on the LG OLED's.

[Geoff D]

who said anything about dropping HDR10? I'll still have another player as backup, the TV will still display HDR10 just fine and keep in mind the HDR selection mode on the Sony, hopefully it'll be possible to just turn off the Dolby Vision and have the HDR10 base layer come through.

But I simply must see what all dis Dolby fuss is about.

[elwaylite]

I meant I am going to keep an HDR10 only player in the stable in case some do not allow DV to be turned off. With this even brighter display, Im not anxious to rush into anything else.

[Geoff D]

Heh, it says "This feature will be made available via a future firmware update" if you click on the little footnote, so it's not there yet. But that they're now advertising it must mean that they've at least worked out whatever marketing rights were required.

[elwaylite]

Im guessing passing some sort of cert. Now we get to wait 3 months for a FW update lol

[mutelight]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Im guessing passing some sort of cert. Now we get to wait 3 months for a FW update lol

Having worked in software development for almost 10 years now and working the marketing and legal teams, the guidance from legal was likely that marketing could not put up those assets until at least they passed 3rd party (Dolby) certification.

Also, since Sony uses GAAP, due to potential revenue recognition issues, it is possible that they are going to push out the update this fiscal quarter which ends at the end of September so they can report the earnings from sales of the set within that quarter. The ambiguity of them stating it will come in a future update is there but that is my general take.

Lastly, I heard rumblings of some testing of the firmware having gone on over the past month or so.

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by mutelight

Having worked in software development for almost 10 years now and working the marketing and legal teams, the guidance from legal was likely that marketing could not put up those assets until at least they passed 3rd party (Dolby) certification.

Also, since Sony uses GAAP, due to potential revenue recognition issues, it is possible that they are going to push out the update this fiscal quarter which ends at the end of September so they can report the earnings from sales of the set within that quarter. The ambiguity of them stating it will come in a future update is there but that is my general take.

Lastly, I heard rumblings of some testing of the firmware having gone on over the past month or so.

It was a joke. I work for a large company, and that is why I said when those went up it meant they passed, no way would Sony ever put that up until the cert was done. Now SW joke aside, I figure 30 days before we see the FW update to enable because of all the other hoopla BS you get to sift thru in a large organization.

[mutelight]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

It was a joke. I work for a large company, and that is why I said when those went up it meant they passed, no way would Sony ever put that up until the cert was done. Now SW joke aside, I figure 30 days before we see the FW update to enable because of all the other hoopla BS you get to sift thru in a large organization.

That’s fine, I was only elaborating and sharing my take from the perspective of a person who has been working at a high profile software development company interfacing directly with finance, marketing, legal and certification for many years.

[elwaylite]

10K confirmed over at AVS that Cinema Pro Contrast 86 and Cinema Home 95 are pretty close to the same in stock mode.

I am really digging Motion Flow "Standard" after coming from an OLED and their motion issues.

[Laserdisk]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

who said anything about dropping HDR10? I'll still have another player as backup, the TV will still display HDR10 just fine and keep in mind the HDR selection mode on the Sony, hopefully it'll be possible to just turn off the Dolby Vision and have the HDR10 base layer come through.

But I simply must see what all dis Dolby fuss is about.

Stream it.

[Geoff D]

**** that noise, Jack. Geoff don't stream.

[elwaylite]

I'm down with Marvel on Netflix in UHD, and stuff like Bosch on Amazon, but if its a new movie, optical or die.

[mutelight]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

I'm down with Marvel on Netflix in UHD, and stuff like Bosch on Amazon, but if its a new movie, optical or die.

Agreed. Shows like The Grand Tour on Amazon in 4K HDR looks phenomenal considering the bitrate they use but I am always looking to grow my 4K Blu-ray collection.

The day Westworld Season 1 releases and I get to watch it on my Z, will be a glorious day!

[elwaylite]

Originally Posted by mutelight

Agreed. Shows like The Grand Tour on Amazon in 4K HDR looks phenomenal considering the bitrate they use but I am always looking to grow my 4K Blu-ray collection.

The day Westworld Season 1 releases and I get to watch it on my Z, will be a glorious day!

Yeah, my plan is basically, "OK, I am going to watch XYZ, what is the BEST format I can get it in".

[mutelight]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Yeah, my plan is basically, "OK, I am going to watch XYZ, what is the BEST format I can get it in".

Oh yeah, absolutely. These Sony's do a hell of a job with less than ideal sources but they yearn for the highest bitrate content they can get.

[elwaylite]

Final overall 940E test was last night, dark room letterbox viewing with an HDR movie (Skull Island).

Not once, unless I intentionally stared, could I ever see the black letterbox affected in a dark scene with some light at the bottom or the top. If you get off angle you can see it, but in a proper seat it just does not draw attention. And even when a small area of the letterbox may have some carryover from the content, the rest of the box is dark. Sony really has their stuff down with local dimming programming and video processing.

Also did not see any evidence of zones doing funky things in dark scenes with light areas and movement or pans. I remember a 2009 Toshiba 55" I had, with something like 96 zones. You could literally see them turn on and off with movement LOL.