Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Robert Zohn prev reported that demand for the 820 and 9000 exceeds supply. Price discounts in the near future are unlikely. In the long term, maybe decreases for the 820. The 9000 is most likely carried by high end A/V stores so price cuts wouldn’t happen until end of model sales way down the line.

I knew someone would ignore DJJez location . . .England.
Roberts stock is not applicable.

[knicolai]

Originally Posted by ronboster

I use this companies' products on top of my NAD receiver (and previously my Denon)

https://www.acinfinity.com/receiver-amp-cooling-fans/

I have one of their fan units on each of my four (Denon) AVRs. They work great.

[danny24]

Originally Posted by ray0414

at the end of summer if at all. Panasonic at CES will be unvieling the HCX PRO chip. If this happens, I'll likely sell my 820 for a very slight loss and upgrade.

Than what in 2020 the HCX Pro Plus chip. I want to get a UB9000 but I still have and use the UB900 and with no DV still has great picture quality.

Not to happy to hear that Panasonic won't support VUDU as an app.

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by gkolb

Robert Zohn prev reported that demand for the 820 and 9000 exceeds supply. Price discounts in the near future are unlikely. In the long term, maybe decreases for the 820. The 9000 is most likely carried by high end A/V stores so price cuts wouldn’t happen until end of model sales way down the line.

Theres plenty of stock for both models in the uk. It's already guaranteed to drop price on a UK website with a black Friday price promise if you buy now.

Panasonic is not oppo. It will be reduced lol

[King Crimson]

Can someone give me some assistance? I have some questions configuring my TV for the UB820. I have a Samsung MU8000. When I hold the playback info button twice to display HDR 10 metadata (during playback of Incredibles 2) should I be seeing any specific numbers in the HDMI VIDEO OUT field? Maximum Light Level is 1000 nit and the value doesn't seem to change nor does the Max Frame Average Light Level value change from a value of 0. Is this normal operational behavior? Sorry I'm new to this. Also would my TV be configured for (medium to high luminance LCD) or (Super High)?

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by cjake

If you have set HDR TV Type setting Middle Luminance LCD (1000 nits), then the HDR Optimizer will always modify the metadata such that the MaxDML is set to 1000 nits. The MaxCLL value can differ.

There are many titles with MaxDML == 1000 and MaxCLL == 0. Those will not have metadata values changed by the Optimizer.

A title with MaxDML == 4000 will be toned mapped and reported as 1000 nits.

Ok so I guess to say the Metadata is static to that disc and those values are static on playback? Specifically MaxDML and MaxCLL?

Is the MU8000 Middle or High Luminance?

[cjake]

Originally Posted by King Crimson

Ok so I guess to say the Metadata is static to that disc and those values are static on playback? Specifically MaxDML and MaxCLL?

You caught me deleting my post. I wanted to test this to ensure that I was correct in my claims.

I did not know that you can get Metadata reported in the UB820 information screen. I thought only the UB9000 could do that. I will check this tonight.

Since I haven't seen metadata reported by the UB820, I can't say whether it is the metadata value contained on the disc, or the metadata values that are modified by the Optimizer.

If the disc has MaxDML of 1000, and your TV type is set to one that is mapped to 1000 nits, then the Optimizer won't change the MaxDML value.

If the disc has MaxDML of 4000, then the Optimizer will tone map to 1000 nits and will modify the MaxDML value that is sent to the TV to 1000 nits.

The MaxCLL value can be different between the disc and the Optimizer output as well. But there is no fixed value. It could be any value up to 1000 nits depending on how the Optimizer tone mapped the highlights.

I have an HDfury device that reports the metadata received from my UB820. I will try to check that it matches what is in the Information screen of the UB820.

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by cjake

You caught me deleting my post. I wanted to test this to ensure that I was correct in my claims.

I did not know that you can get Metadata reported in the UB820 information screen. I thought only the UB9000 could do that. I will check this tonight.

Since I haven't seen metadata reported by the UB820, I can't say whether it is the metadata value contained on the disc, or the metadata values that are modified by the Optimizer.

If the disc has MaxDML of 1000, and your TV type is set to one that is mapped to 1000 nits, then the Optimizer won't change the MaxDML value.

If the disc has MaxDML of 4000, then the Optimizer will tone map to 1000 nits and will modify the MaxDML value that is sent to the TV to 1000 nits.

The MaxCLL value can be different between the disc and the Optimizer output as well. But there is no fixed value. It could be any value up to 1000 nits depending on how the Optimizer tone mapped the highlights.

Ah ok sorry to clarify I have firmware that allows me to see this. Thank you for your help!

[King Crimson]

This is what I see. I am just curious if this is the correct information I should be seeing. I have DV Metadata turned off. HDR10+ is on because I was told the MU8000 supports it. I also have my HDR optimizer set to bright for this movie specifically. 95% of other 4Ks I typically use the Light HDR Optimzer setting.

[Kris Deering]

That is standard for Disney releases. The static metadata doesn't tell you much at all about their titles. Fox is another one that is bad in this regard.

[Gretiem]

Trying to decide whether or not to pick up the 820 now or hold off for the 9000. I really like the better build quality though. But it most likely wont be available until next year.

[Maggot]

Is there a solid street date on the 9000 yet? I saw some site stating mid November and that basically now. Grant you, I don't have a 4K TV yet, but I'm just wondering when we will see this player in the States?

[cjake]

Originally Posted by King Crimson

This is what I see. I am just curious if this is the correct information I should be seeing. I have DV Metadata turned off. HDR10+ is on because I was told the MU8000 supports it. I also have my HDR optimizer set to bright for this movie specifically. 95% of other 4Ks I typically use the Light HDR Optimzer setting.

The screen shot appears to show:

Input: MaxDML of 1000 and MaxCLL of zero.
Output: MaxDML of 1000 and MaxCLL of 1000.

You should try playing a 4000 nit title instead of a 1000 nit to better see what the Optimizer is doing.

[King Crimson]

Originally Posted by cjake

The screen shot appears to show:

Input: MaxDML of 1000 and MaxCLL of zero.
Output: MaxDML of 1000 and MaxCLL of 1000.

You should try playing a 4000 nit title instead of a 1000 nit to better see what the Optimizer is doing.

Any suggestions based on my collection? Its current.

[electricloseyland]

Originally Posted by ronboster

I know Robert has spoken to Panasonic reps about adding Vudu...so they are aware of the request from the market. I ended up buying an inexpensive Sony 700 for HDR Vudu viewing....once Panny adds it, I'll move the Sony player to our bedroom set up.

Add me to the Vudu request list (as well as Hulu and HBO Go). Anything that could help me simplify and consolidate my home theater needs into one player would be great.

[DJJez]

Originally Posted by Gretiem

Trying to decide whether or not to pick up the 820 now or hold off for the 9000. I really like the better build quality though. But it most likely wont be available until next year.

Grab the 9000

[Gretiem]

Originally Posted by DJJez

Grab the 9000

Right now value electronics is taking orders for their third shipment and won’t come until February

[sapiendut]

9000 all the way. I have both. I relegated the 820 to my bedroom only LX500 and 9000 in my theatre.

[Gretiem]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

9000 all the way. I have both. I relegated the 820 to my bedroom only LX500 and 9000 in my theatre.

Which do you like better ? The pioneer is available now while the 9000 is gonna be a few months

[sapiendut]

Because I use a projector I have to use the 9000 due to the customization features for HDR compression but for audio quality, the LX500 wins hands down. If you use OLED or LCD, the LX500 is a great all rounder. Too bad it doesn’t have any streeaming option.