Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 179 - Blu-ray Forum

WutDaFunk · 05-21-2019, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by McGarnigal

So when I set this up.. if I use the HDR Optimizer, I have to turn off the HDR Dynamic Contrast (which is my LG C7 TV tonemapping) Correct?

You don't have to. You can have both if you want, it will just make the picture brighter overall. Try it out and stick with what looks better to you! I have the C8 and use the Optimizer by itself.

sapiendut · 05-21-2019, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by McGarnigal

So when I set this up.. if I use the HDR Optimizer, I have to turn off the HDR Dynamic Contrast (which is my LG C7 TV tonemapping) Correct?

use both

jh901 · 05-21-2019, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Then 7.1 PCM is fine, not perfect from Panasonic's way of doing this, but it beats strutting audio from Bitstream.

The UB900 I had prior to the 820 decoded the bitstream without a problem. I'm not sure what "Panasonic's way of doing this" means. You don't use the dual-HDMI outputs do you?

As for the bitstream "popping", well, I don't have that as described. Wondering if it's AVR related?

sapiendut · 05-21-2019, 11:42 PM

As long as I use bitstream, I don’t get weird stuff from this set up. I also never heard any popping sound from any of the systems I designed ( a couple using Krell Foundation, a handful of Pioneer Elite SC series, also a handful of Marantz pre-pro)

eddievanhalen · 05-22-2019, 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by sapiendut

As long as I use bitstream, I don’t get weird stuff from this set up. I also never heard any popping sound from any of the systems I designed ( a couple using Krell Foundation, a handful of Pioneer Elite SC series, also a handful of Marantz pre-pro)

I've had some "popping and clicking issues" with my 420 connected to a Pioneer SC LX76 until today, when I did a full "hard reset" (that also works for the 820) and the problem is solved.
It may have been posted earlier on this tread but you can do a hard reset on the 820 and 420 as follows:
First switch the player on and when it's on wait for a minute or so. Then at the same time push OK, Yellow button and Blue botton and wait for at least five seconds till “00 RET” is displayed either on the 820 display or the TV set on the case of 420. Then press the left button repeatedly until “08 FIN” is displayed. Then press and hold OK for more than 5 seconds till the player switches off. Done.
I hope this can be of help.

evoll · 05-22-2019, 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by jh901

Did you have any problem playing Leon or Black Hawk Down UHDs? Both are Sony releases using seamless branching.

Anyone else using dual-HDMI outputs have "freezes" with these titles?

No problem with Leon and just got Blackhawk Down but plan to watch it soon.

sapiendut · 05-22-2019, 01:36 AM

No problem with Leon and BHD on 9000. On 820 there were split second freezes. I’m currently in the process of exchanging the disc at Amazon.ca. Hopefully it’s not a mastering issue (although most likely it is)

Xtreme3094 · 05-22-2019, 02:05 AM

His someone tried to play bdxl on ub820? I have a ub900 and works perfectly... just wanna kniw if the new ub820 did it too

Thanks a lot

curlyjive · 05-22-2019, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

You get occasional popping audio "snippets" when bitstreaming with your 820?
Then 7.1 PCM is fine, not perfect from Panasonic's way of doing this, but it beats strutting audio from Bitstream.

* This must be more the exception than the general rule?

Yes. And it either starts right at the beginning of playback or when the disc ends after the credits and goes back to the main menu...I have fallen asleep once in a while to be woken up by loud popping from the latter occurring.

Problem is it is the popping is infrequent. So I can't readily reproduce it. But it is unnerving enough to fear for my speakers. I have done a full reset on the 820 more than once, and changed cables. I had thought it was resolved with that, but since I can go many weeks without the issue occurring, it eventually did occur again. I am using a Denon 2808, which while not new should not have this issue.

PCM would be fine if it weren't for the additional delay on the SB channels. I run my OPPO 103D in PCM and there is no weird delay or auto converting everything to 7.1. I do not get popping from the 103D in bitstream either.

There is no reason for Panasonic to be doing any additional processing when decoding bitstream to pass as PCM.

jh901 · 05-22-2019, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by evoll

No problem with Leon and just got Blackhawk Down but plan to watch it soon.

Ok, and you're passing the bitstream to an Atmos enabled surround component. Right?

Is there a way for you to play the Dolby TrueHD 7.1 or would that take too much effort? Obviously, there are some folks with your surround processor who only have 7.1, but I'm not sure if you merely need to change a single setting or if it's a bit of a project.

Anyhow, it would be interesting to see you get the "freeze" problem!

Thank you, sincerely. I don't take anyone's time for granted.

jh901 · 05-22-2019, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyjive

Problem is it is the popping is infrequent. So I can't readily reproduce it. But it is unnerving enough to fear for my speakers.

Remind me what make/model your surround processor is and roughly when it came to market?

curlyjive · 05-22-2019, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jh901

Remind me what make/model your surround processor is and roughly when it came to market?

Denon 2808 and I got it probably 2008.

FilmFreakosaurus · 05-22-2019, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyjive

Denon 2808 and I got it probably 2008.

It's your receiver. Time to upgrade.

jh901 · 05-22-2019, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyjive

Denon 2808 and I got it probably 2008.

Whoa, yeah. Well past time to upgrade.

You'll get a dramatic improvement in sound quality with a modern Marantz. Try to go separates at some point.

Bcosta · 05-22-2019, 02:59 PM

I run my setup dual HDMI and so far haven't seen any of these issues, but I will keep everyone up to date if I do. Black hawk down played perfect for me as did Leon.

curlyjive · 05-22-2019, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

It's your receiver. Time to upgrade.

Thats absolutely incorrect. There is nothing a newer AVR will do for me other than AV passthrough of UHD (which I don't need) and ATMOS/DTS:X (which I am not ready to do yet.

Just because the AVR is older, it still supports losses Audio and PCM just fine.

The fact that Panasonic screws up their audio in PCM and causes bitstream popping (I'm not the only user to have that issue), does not mean its my AVR.

curlyjive · 05-22-2019, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jh901

Whoa, yeah. Well past time to upgrade.

You'll get a dramatic improvement in sound quality with a modern Marantz. Try to go separates at some point.

No I really wouldn't unless I went with separates...and then to see the benefit of that I would need to upgrade speakers as well. I'm eventually going to do those things, but not now. There is really nothing I need from a new AVR right now and the Panasonic is the problem, not my AVR.

kurtlingle · 05-22-2019, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefy

Is it pointless to get a UB820 for HDR to SDR conversion? Would I notice an uptick in quality?

I don't have the UB820 (I have a Sony 700).
I have the BenQ W1070 (which is 1080p) and watching 4k disks (in SDR) is visibly better. We did comparisons watching some Blu rays and their 4K versions and it is a noticeable difference.

adamjankowski · 05-22-2019, 04:06 PM

I have an even older Yamaha 6.1 sound receiver than curlyjive has. I use cables for the sound on this player and it works fine.

sapiendut · 05-22-2019, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by curlyjive

Thats absolutely incorrect. There is nothing a newer AVR will do for me other than AV passthrough of UHD (which I don't need) and ATMOS/DTS:X (which I am not ready to do yet.

Just because the AVR is older, it still supports losses Audio and PCM just fine.

The fact that Panasonic screws up their audio in PCM and causes bitstream popping (I'm not the only user to have that issue), does not mean its my AVR.

It’s not Panasonic fault. I remember that many Denons from around that era have popping problems when one codec changes to another codec.

05-22-2019, 02:05 AM	#3568
Xtreme3094 New Member Member since:May 2019	Bdxl His someone tried to play bdxl on ub820? I have a ub900 and works perfectly... just wanna kniw if the new ub820 did it too Thanks a lot

05-21-2019, 11:42 PM	#3564
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	As long as I use bitstream, I don’t get weird stuff from this set up. I also never heard any popping sound from any of the systems I designed ( a couple using Krell Foundation, a handful of Pioneer Elite SC series, also a handful of Marantz pre-pro)

05-22-2019, 01:36 AM	#3567
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	No problem with Leon and BHD on 9000. On 820 there were split second freezes. I’m currently in the process of exchanging the disc at Amazon.ca. Hopefully it’s not a mastering issue (although most likely it is)

05-22-2019, 02:59 PM	#3575
Bcosta Active Member Member since:Sep 2011 Location:The Devil's Womb 4K collection:741 Blu-ray collection:1491 DVD collection:22 Trading Score:3	I run my setup dual HDMI and so far haven't seen any of these issues, but I will keep everyone up to date if I do. Black hawk down played perfect for me as did Leon.

05-22-2019, 04:06 PM	#3579
adamjankowski Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2017 4K collection:206 Blu-ray collection:483 DVD collection:60	I have an even older Yamaha 6.1 sound receiver than curlyjive has. I use cables for the sound on this player and it works fine.

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