Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Sorry for the potato quality of this pic, but is HDR on? I'm confused. This display message makes it look like it is, but both this disc and another are telling me to pony up for a TV that supports it (which the TV already does...)

I'm debating contacting Panasonic because it's been doing some weird things even before I got the new TV, so I don't think it's just a handshake issue.

That screen is pretty useless. What does the proper info screen say it's outputting?

[cgpublic]

Addressing the most 'pressing' issue with my 820, the backlit, intelligently designed N2QAYA000131 remote control for DMP-UB900, all for $30. Thanks eBay!

[Bodyslide]

Just ordered one . Thanks

[MrSniper1401]

Just got this in today, upgrading from the Sony x700 player. Sure is nice to watch dolby vision automatically. HDR optimizer is also a godsend, so much detail i've been missing on my oled. Don't see how it could be better but are there any settings that people recommend to either turn on or turn off to get the best playback? I heard setting edge correction at 1 is recommended, not sure what else though

[Geoff D]

You're better off leaving Edge Correction on zero, it doesn't affect UHD content anyway but when upscaling HD to UHD it can remove some mild luma ringing from the upscaling when set to +1. The trouble is, in doing so it can cause some moiré interference on tightly packed areas of detail so now I just leave it off.

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

That screen is pretty useless. What does the proper info screen say it's outputting?

Sorry it took so long, I had to find the remote that came with the player, because my remote from my old BD605 didn't have the button to pull up the proper info screen. Here's a pic from my Hannibal disc. The HDR button tells me I don't have HDR but the TV is supposed to. Could you tell me what the two different YCbCr readings mean? The TV's settings are very bare (no color adjustments), and I've turned off the usual annoyances but that shouldn't make the player not recognize it.

[Geoff D]

The top line is telling you what's on the disc: 3840x2160/24 signal, in HDR10 with 2020 colour, and it's been encoded in YCbCr 4:2:0 10-bit. So far so normal.

The third line is what the player is actually outputting to the TV and unfortunately it's in 4K SDR 709 so no, it's not actually playing *in* HDR and it's also busting the bit depth down to 8-bit.

Can you post any pics of how the player's video setup is set, like in the main setup screens? And what TV have you got?

[shinobipopcorn]

I've got the Philips 5604 (https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/43PF...ies-android-tv). I couldn't afford much else. It advertises that it has HDR10, I'm using their branded cord that has the little orange HDMI sticker on it and says "premium certified" (though I did order one of the monoprice ones to be safe). The TV itself has very few settings I can change. I turned the dynamic lighting and the dimming off. That's about it.

HDR10+ is on in player settings, but get this. The resolution setting is set to 4K. I hit OK when it asks me if I can see a picture, because I can. Then I go into 4K60p output screen. Under 4K60p, there are only 3 choices: 4:4:4, 4:2:0, and off. If I pick either of the two options, it tells me "connected TV does not support 4K/60p". How can this be right? Does that mean the resolution is not supposed to be set to 4K?

[MooneyRara]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

I've got the Philips 5604 (https://www.usa.philips.com/c-p/43PF...ies-android-tv). I couldn't afford much else. It advertises that it has HDR10, I'm using their branded cord that has the little orange HDMI sticker on it and says "premium certified" (though I did order one of the monoprice ones to be safe). The TV itself has very few settings I can change. I turned the dynamic lighting and the dimming off. That's about it.

HDR10+ is on in player settings, but get this. The resolution setting is set to 4K. I hit OK when it asks me if I can see a picture, because I can. Then I go into 4K60p output screen. Under 4K60p, there are only 3 choices: 4:4:4, 4:2:0, and off. If I pick either of the two options, it tells me "connected TV does not support 4K/60p". How can this be right? Does that mean the resolution is not supposed to be set to 4K?

Do you have the TV set to HDMI EDID 2.0? If it's set to EDID 1.4 that would explain why there's no support for HDR.

[cgpublic]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Under 4K60p, there are only 3 choices: 4:4:4, 4:2:0, and off. If I pick either of the two options, it tells me "connected TV does not support 4K/60p". How can this be right? Does that mean the resolution is not supposed to be set to 4K?

For many budget and mid-tier 4K HDR TVs, not every HDMI port supports the full capabilities of UHD, and for others that do, it must be enabled.

Check your manual for 'full color/UHD' or facsimile support, i.e., HDMI port and/or SW toggle.

[sapiendut]

Or the cable. Many HDMI cables can’t pass 4K/60

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by MooneyRara

Do you have the TV set to HDMI EDID 2.0? If it's set to EDID 1.4 that would explain why there's no support for HDR.

Probably similar to the Phillips 5000 setup

Go to installation, preferences, HDMI mode, select which port you have connected and set it to 4k

What a poor user manual Philips offers.

[shinobipopcorn]

Originally Posted by MooneyRara

Do you have the TV set to HDMI EDID 2.0? If it's set to EDID 1.4 that would explain why there's no support for HDR.

Yes! This was the problem, thank you so much. All of the ports were set to 1.4 and setting it to 2.0 fixed it.

Originally Posted by JohnAV

Probably similar to the Phillips 5000 setup



What a poor user manual Philips offers.

Yeah, the flyers in the box were junk, and I had to dig through the website to find the long form manual. The convoluted setting menus weren't much of a help, either. One thing the two Insignia TVs we own did right at least...

[MooneyRara]

Originally Posted by shinobipopcorn

Yes! This was the problem, thank you so much. All of the ports were set to 1.4 and setting it to 2.0 fixed it.

No problem. Enjoy!

[MrSniper1401]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

You're better off leaving Edge Correction on zero, it doesn't affect UHD content anyway but when upscaling HD to UHD it can remove some mild luma ringing from the upscaling when set to +1. The trouble is, in doing so it can cause some moiré interference on tightly packed areas of detail so now I just leave it off.

Thanks, I'll definitely play around with it to see what looks better. One other question, am I right to assume that the player does the upscaling by default for 1080p sources and if so is there a way to have my TV do the upscaling instead?

[Geoff D]

The Panasonics don't have a 'source direct' feature so if you want the TV to upscale 1080 content you'll have to set the player's video output to 1080 manually, trouble is it'll output everything at 1080 so if you then want to play a 4K in 4K you'll have to switch it back to 4K or Auto.

[Jacques Souvenir]

in a nutshell, is it really that big of an upgrade to spend an extra 500 and get the 9000 over the 820? Is there any difference in picture quality?

[sapiendut]

I own both. The 9000 uses better drive mechanism. Problematic discs on 820 (and other players) tend to play without hiccup on the 9000. It’s much quieter too. Analog sounds much better on the 9000.

Picture quality is essentially the same if you’re not using projector.

[Jacques Souvenir]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

I own both. The 9000 uses better drive mechanism. Problematic discs on 820 (and other players) tend to play without hiccup on the 9000. It’s much quieter too. Analog sounds much better on the 9000.

Picture quality is essentially the same if you’re not using projector.

Thanks!

[trekky76]

So my player has been operating louder recently than initially. I think the fan spins louder. Any idea what can cause it? I wanted to open it up and remove any dust but no idea how to take the top off..