Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Cap.T]

I have one question regarding HDR10+/Dolby Vision. Yesterday I got my new TV (Panasonic TX65GZW1004) which supports both formats. When I tried a UHD (Pets 2) that has both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision the UB820 played the movie with HDR10+ by default. Is it somehow possible to choose with which format the movie is starting or do I have to shut off HDR10+ in the player settings if I want the movie to start in Dolby Vision? Thanks!

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Cap.T

I have one question regarding HDR10+/Dolby Vision. Yesterday I got my new TV (Panasonic TX65GZW1004) which supports both formats. When I tried a UHD (Pets 2) that has both HDR10+ and Dolby Vision the UB820 played the movie with HDR10+ by default. Is it somehow possible to choose with which format the movie is starting or do I have to shut off HDR10+ in the player settings if I want the movie to start in Dolby Vision? Thanks!

If both Dolby Vision and HDR10+ are enabled, it defaults to HDR10+, so you need to disable HDR10+ in the menu (like you said).

Home>Settings>HDMI>HDR10+>Off

I don't think there's a remote short-cut.

[jmpage2]

Originally Posted by ronboster

Beware of brand new members with the same "issues". It's a sure bet.

So a disc freezing on a $500 player is not a real issue?

I've been active in the AVS community for 20 years. Happy to PM you with more info since you seem to be implying I have an agenda.

My agenda is that this is an expensive hobby and physical media is dying. It only exists so that enthusiasts can get access to the very best audio/video quality that is possible on these expensive setups we put together.

If people don't care about things like borked layer changes and force either the publisher or the hardware vendor to fix them then this format will not last long.

So that's my "agenda".

As to the argument that you should turn off the principal display mode for a given title as a workaround, it might be effective at mitigating the problem but it is not realistic to the typical owner who is going to leave DV enabled to get PQ enhancements where they exist and certainly it's not something the average person would even be aware of when a problem happens. Like I'm sure a lot of other people I assumed my disc was defective and got another one.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

[Robert Zohn]

@jmpage2, don't think anyone is referring to you. You are not posting long posts or talking about the same issues or even owning or talking about the same BD player.

Your contributions are welcome and good.

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by jmpage2

So a disc freezing on a $500 player is not a real issue?

I've been active in the AVS community for 20 years. Happy to PM you with more info since you seem to be implying I have an agenda.

My agenda is that this is an expensive hobby and physical media is dying. It only exists so that enthusiasts can get access to the very best audio/video quality that is possible on these expensive setups we put together.

If people don't care about things like borked layer changes and force either the publisher or the hardware vendor to fix them then this format will not last long.

So that's my "agenda".

As to the argument that you should turn off the principal display mode for a given title as a workaround, it might be effective at mitigating the problem but it is not realistic to the typical owner who is going to leave DV enabled to get PQ enhancements where they exist and certainly it's not something the average person would even be aware of when a problem happens. Like I'm sure a lot of other people I assumed my disc was defective and got another one.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

Maybe I shouldn't have been so coy with my post, but trying not to make this thread about an individual member.

That being said, for clarification I was referring to the recent member who was banned. I suspect (as he's done in another forum) come back multiple times after being banned, signing up with new accounts. Also, I don't think I used the word or implied an "agenda".

Thanks for letting me clarify. And Robert thanks for also helping!

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by jmpage2

So a disc freezing on a $500 player is not a real issue?

I've been active in the AVS community for 20 years. Happy to PM you with more info since you seem to be implying I have an agenda.

My agenda is that this is an expensive hobby and physical media is dying. It only exists so that enthusiasts can get access to the very best audio/video quality that is possible on these expensive setups we put together.

If people don't care about things like borked layer changes and force either the publisher or the hardware vendor to fix them then this format will not last long.

So that's my "agenda".

As to the argument that you should turn off the principal display mode for a given title as a workaround, it might be effective at mitigating the problem but it is not realistic to the typical owner who is going to leave DV enabled to get PQ enhancements where they exist and certainly it's not something the average person would even be aware of when a problem happens. Like I'm sure a lot of other people I assumed my disc was defective and got another one.

Back to your regularly scheduled programming.

You have a valid and fair point, and like he clarified he wasn't targeting you

But for me, I own like 200 UHD's and over 400 Blu's...in the grand scheme of things, if a specific scene of a specific movie (I've encountered twice so far..one was Midway) freezes it's not quite enough to get me on the attack. Every piece of electronics has their quirks no matter the price tag. But maybe I'm just a softie west coaster

[stargazeruk]

Originally Posted by pbz06

You have a valid and fair point, and like he clarified he wasn't targeting you

But for me, I own like 200 UHD's and over 400 Blu's...in the grand scheme of things, if a specific scene of a specific movie (I've encountered twice so far..one was Midway) freezes it's not quite enough to get me on the attack. Every piece of electronics has their quirks no matter the price tag. But maybe I'm just a softie west coaster

The UB820 I have had two mid way freezes other UHDs not a problem, DVD oddly on the ones that I still have (TV shows I can't replace on blu-ray been fine) but standard blu-ray is another matter.

A couple of standard blu-ray disks that just will not play and others that other players have no issue with I have had to super wipe to make the disk super pristine even a new disk I have had to wipe to get it to play. Not sure why blu-ray has been hit and miss but I suspect the drive is just not as good.

Midway I have a support call in with them and sent what they asked, Video footage, pictures of the disk and information. I also asked about the net apps being 60hz but nothing back and doubt that would change.

[Steve115]

I have a Samsung q80r and I'm a little curious on the chroma upsampling done on the ub820. I've been running the player at 4:4:4 but I've found out my tv only supports that in "pc mode". I've seen some people on other forums recommend running the player at 4:2:2 instead for that reason. Am I really losing much knocking the player down to 4:2:2, or just keep sending full chroma and let the tv figure it out. Thanks.

[psx3man]

Should I get the UB820 or is there a chance a new player could come out later this year? I still have a couple months to wait, but I'm just wondering.

[Zoland2020]

@psx3man I'm doubt there will be any new 4K Blu-ray players this year unless you wanna count Xbox Series X and PS5. So you're be just fine going with the current UB820.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Steve115

I have a Samsung q80r and I'm a little curious on the chroma upsampling done on the ub820. I've been running the player at 4:4:4 but I've found out my tv only supports that in "pc mode". I've seen some people on other forums recommend running the player at 4:2:2 instead for that reason. Am I really losing much knocking the player down to 4:2:2, or just keep sending full chroma and let the tv figure it out. Thanks.

Even though the TV can only resolve full 4:4:4 chroma resolution in PC mode (like a lot of TVs) it doesn't matter when it comes to consumer video content as it's encoded in quarter-rez 4:2:0 on disc or streaming. All the player is doing with the 4:4:4 output is uprezzing the chroma back to full resolution, or indeed half resolution with 4:2:2, and some players may do it slightly better or differently than some TVs or other players. The best way to check is to get hold of some test patterns like Spears & Munsil UHD Benchmark and flick back and forth between the 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 outputs.

[Steve115]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Even though the TV can only resolve full 4:4:4 chroma resolution in PC mode (like a lot of TVs) it doesn't matter when it comes to consumer video content as it's encoded in quarter-rez 4:2:0 on disc or streaming. All the player is doing with the 4:4:4 output is uprezzing the chroma back to full resolution, or indeed half resolution with 4:2:2, and some players may do it slightly better or differently than some TVs or other players. The best way to check is to get hold of some test patterns like Spears & Munsil UHD Benchmark and flick back and forth between the 4:2:2 and 4:4:4 outputs.

Thanks for the reply Geoff, sounds like a good thing to test this weekend. As far as I know and found, the only way to get 4:2:2 out of the 820 is turn off 4k/60 correct?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Steve115

Thanks for the reply Geoff, sounds like a good thing to test this weekend. As far as I know and found, the only way to get 4:2:2 out of the 820 is turn off 4k/60 correct?

The 4K60 setting just affects, well, 4K60, so if you're running movies at 4K24 then it'll have no effect on them at all. And the ironical thing is the '4:4:4 4K60' setting is something of a misnomer anyway as HDMI 2.0 can't do 10 or 12-bit 4K60 4:4:4, the most you'll get is 4:2:2 at those bit depths. 4K60 4:4:4 only works in 8-bit.

The different sub sampling methods are in the Advanced settings menu.

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by Steve115

Thanks for the reply Geoff, sounds like a good thing to test this weekend. As far as I know and found, the only way to get 4:2:2 out of the 820 is turn off 4k/60 correct?

Here is a good article that explains it in detail, and how to test it even...assuming you have the disc.

http://spearsandmunsil.com/portfolio...color-space-3/

[rickardl]

Originally Posted by Robert Zohn

@jmpage2, don't think anyone is referring to you. You are not posting long posts or talking about the same issues or even owning or talking about the same BD player.

Robert, any chance you could poke Panasonic again about new firmware?
It seems some newer units are shipped with 1.64 but only 1.60 is available
at Panasonic's website so 1.64 (or later) could potentially contain fixes
to some of the glitches people are experiencing.

[psx3man]

Originally Posted by Zoland2020

@psx3man I'm doubt there will be any new 4K Blu-ray players this year unless you wanna count Xbox Series X and PS5. So you're be just fine going with the current UB820.

Hey thanks for the reply, will probably end up getting the Panasonic then.

[Robert Zohn]

Originally Posted by rickardl

Robert, any chance you could poke Panasonic again about new firmware?
It seems some newer units are shipped with 1.64 but only 1.60 is available
at Panasonic's website so 1.64 (or later) could potentially contain fixes
to some of the glitches people are experiencing.

Yes I will. I have a conference call scheduled for Monday afternoon with Panasonic NA and this is on my agenda. 1.64 is for China only at this time.

[Fasteddie516]

Be careful of that China Upgrade. It might contain a Virus.

Sorry, I couldn’t help it. Need some laughs in these dark days.

Hope everyone is well!
Stay Safe!

[dcx4610]

Just wrapped up my first viewing on the 820 (Force Awakens). It looked wonderful and everything went smoothly.

Is there any way to have a blank screen by chance? Not a huge issue but curious.

Also, does anyone know if it's possible to program the TV Power button to non-Phillips brands?

Edit: Just got the programming to work. For those curious, holding down the TV power button and pressing 20 worked on my Samsung.

[MEB]

It's my belief that (to be as safe as possible), we won't be hosting any Booth Bijou movie nights for at least 1-2 years. Not until there is a vaccine or reliable treatment (drug) to stop the virus in the body. Therefore, no more need to pause films for more than 20 minutes while a large group uses the restroom.

Plus, I'm finding myself buying fewer shiny discs and more films directly on digital. Amazon no longer offers guaranteed release date delivery and I'm not going to Target to pick up a movie.

So, just when Panasonic *might* have gotten off its a$$ and created a fix for the automatic shutoff (firmware version 1.64), I'm not really needing it.

Screw Panasonic. The UB9000 is the last Panasonic product I will ever buy.

Mark