Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by tama

No, it was on a C9. These Panny players weren't out just yet when the B7 was released. Just also stating Vincent hasn't been a fan of DTM since then as it was the first OLED it was employed on.

I have on order a CX from VE also with a calibration ordered so hope to have it soon. But speaking with a local calibrator who advised me to move on to a new set after my last gave out also said he didn't turn on DTM as it wasn't needed.

On Vincent’s C9 review, he mentions that in dark scenes, the DTM preserved more spectular highlights but in brighter scenes, it brightened them too much. This is why I have my Panasonic Optimizer going. It takes care of tone mapping the brighter specular highlights the TV seems to over brighten. Although, I will contest that he is using Mad Max: Fury as a demonstration when in reality, that movie was graded at 9,000 nits and even the best TV on the market can’t tone map that properly.

[martinstraka8282]

I appreciate the feedback everyone. Looks like my question sparked a fair amount of debate on the subject, so just wanted to say thanks to all those involved.

[panasonicst60]

Originally Posted by tama

No, it was on a C9. These Panny players weren't out just yet when the B7 was released. Just also stating Vincent hasn't been a fan of DTM since then as it was the first OLED it was employed on.

I have on order a CX from VE also with a calibration ordered so hope to have it soon. But speaking with a local calibrator who advised me to move on to a new set after my last gave out also said he didn't turn on DTM as it wasn't needed.

It brightens mid tones too as he mentioned in his review. You can clearly see it as he switches it on and off. The optimizer does not touch anything besides the highest of high nit. Yes I have measurements to show what the optimizer does. It does not touch mid tones as the dtm clearly does.

[Panaguy]

Well, I'm really excited I've just found the solution thanks to a similar problem on another board with an older DVD player, and it's quite simple.

I thought the solution was in color space or color depth conversion but it is just in the brightness control of the player! In fact, when it is at o setting, it is already perfectly set and does not show the below black, because it is already calibrated. As soon as you boost the brightness the below black level starts to appear. When I boosted brightness on my display I could not see any below black bar and I mistakenly thought that it was because the player did not pass Pluge but it did. You just have to interact with both display's and player's brightness control to find the sweet spot and be able to properly calibrate your display for the UB9000. It's funny because my other players did not behave like that, but that means it is perfectly calibrated to black at default setting.

I'm glad I learnt that today, and I hope it may be of use to someome.with the same issue!

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by panasonicst60

It brightens mid tones too as he mentioned in his review. You can clearly see it as he switches it on and off. The optimizer does not touch anything besides the highest of high nit. Yes I have measurements to show what the optimizer does. It does not touch mid tones as the dtm clearly does.

On my GX, I initially had dtm on, but after enabling the Optimizer, I turned it off. Didn't like the brightness levels, and prefer the Optimizer on.

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by Better in Blu

On my GX, I initially had dtm on, but after enabling the Optimizer, I turned it off. Didn't like the brightness levels, and prefer the Optimizer on.

Is your GX calibrated by chance?

[thestrangestick]

Originally Posted by evoll

Not sure about journey 3d but i could never get Ratatouille 3D to work with the top menu trick. I have another region free oppo for those.

Thanks for the update. I've tried 2 different region b discs and, unless I'm doing it wrong, neither of them work with the top menu trick. I always get an 'operation prohibited' type message when trying to press stop.

My guess is any disc from a decent sized distributor has got this kind of blocking control on it. I'm assuming it's only smaller studio discs where the workaround works.

I have an Oppo 103 for my 3D blurays, wish I had bought a region free mod back when they were $50...

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

Is your GX calibrated by chance?

Yes, I had D-Nice do it

[trekky76]

I had DTM on for a while on my C9 but hated how it brightens up midtones. I have it off now. I haven't seen the CX in action but I think it has some more settings to fine tune tonemapping?

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by trekky76

I had DTM on for a while on my C9 but hated how it brightens up midtones. I have it off now. I haven't seen the CX in action but I think it has some more settings to fine tune tonemapping?

It's weird. For me, it makes things a heck of a lot better. It doesn't always brightens things. It will dim them or brighten depending on the content and no matter what it seems to give me proper specular highlights.

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by PUsokrJosh305

It's weird. For me, it makes things a heck of a lot better. It doesn't always brightens things. It will dim them or brighten depending on the content and no matter what it seems to give me proper specular highlights.

All that matters is how you want/like it. If you have Starz, watch the Luminaries, and toggle it off/on to see a big difference. I'm used to Plasma's, and just got used to dimmer settings.

[evoll]

Originally Posted by pbz06

That's the safer setting, but unless you're calibrated you might not be following EOTF accurately anyway.

I think all he's saying is to try it out in case you get good results that you like, he's not really arguing right or wrong.

Right in my sig. both oleds calibrated lol.

[Better in Blu]

Originally Posted by evoll

Right in my sig. both oleds calibrated lol.

Gregg does great work.

[evoll]

Originally Posted by Better in Blu

Gregg does great work.

I have used him and chad b, both are great at what they do plus good guys.

[Member-425016]

Originally Posted by FrightNight

Try to get the firmware here:

https://www.regionfreedom.com/index....-ef-eg-gn-p-pc

I had no problem getting it.

Weird to me that the main problems ongoing for years about the auto off, problem solved with what you present, and....crickets. Odd behavior given it was/is such a b****ed about issue.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by Filmfan73

Weird to me that the main problems ongoing for years about the auto off, problem solved with what you present, and....crickets. Odd behavior given it was/is such a b****ed about issue.

You did read Panaguy's post, yes, how he applied for the firmware that's being shilled above but got rebuffed? I've had PMs from other people who've been 'cancelled' too for no other reason than missing out a field of information or not providing it quickly enough. Once matey decides he doesn't like you then that's it, he literally blacklists you.

If everyone could just pay and get the firmware there'd be no issue, but if you don't apply for it under the light of a crescent moon on the last day of Autumn whilst smearing yourself in chicken guts and chanting 'ohwhatatwitiam' there's no guarantee.

[sapiendut]

Yeah. Just lemme pay and gimme the FW, don’t be a primadonna and make me jump through hoops. I’m too fat to jump around.

[Geoff D]

The 'reason' being wherever the dart lands on the board, yes? Obvious shill was obvious

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by evoll

Right in my sig. both oleds calibrated lol.

I was speaking generally, not you directly.

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by FrightNight

Yes, I know that you are a hater and that you think the world is spinning around you but that's not the case.

Lol at quoting yourself in that post, I assume it was meant for me (and I see has been swiftly changed) but that's priceless

Dude, seriously, why are you is your friend so douchey with people who just want to pay cash money for your, I mean, his, firmware? I've seen the replies he's sent to some people and, yikes.