Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by bnmdjm

So here's a theoretical question (probably a dumb one). I see it alluded to (even in recent posts such as in the Speed 4k thread) but can eARC improve lip sync in a case where the UB9000 is feeding directly into AVR and the TV is also connected to the AVR via a compatible eARC hdmi port? Or is there no effect unless you were viewing a TV app and sending audio to the AVR that way? I have always assumed the later scenario was the only way eARC could have any effect on audio quality but recent posts made me wonder if I'm missing something.

If you’ve got the player connected to the AVR already then what would be the point of eARC? It’s not really designed to correct loose lips but just to give people one less cable to worry about. In theory the sync should be betterer if the audio is being squirted out in the same cable as the video signal, but to my way of thinking it could still cause just as many sync problems because the signal is still being split off at some point.

To wit: if you’ve got one cable going from player into the AVR which then sends the video signal on to the TV over HDMI and keeps the audio for itself then that’s causing a separation of A/V timing. If you’ve got one cable going from player into the TV which then sends the audio signal to the AVR via eARC and keeps the video for itself then that’s causing a separation of A/V timing. And, of coursh, if you’re using both HDMIs from the player, one to send the video signal direct to the TV and the audio signal direct to the AVR, then that’s also causing a separation of A/V timing. Dunno.

[Geoff D]

BTW I realise the inanity of stating that there’s an A/V separation taking place because it has to, otherwise you don’t have the video signal going to the TV and the audio going to a sound system!

The point was to state that eARC isn’t the panacea for sync problems that people might assume it to be, because the signals are still being split off in certain ways. It could be that the TV's HDMI processor is adding a fraction of delay to the audio, or the other way around: due to all the gubbins related to video processing it could be causing a lag in the video signal which would make it fall behind the audio signal, there’s a reason why lag times are a standard feature of TV reviews these days. Indeed, in the Speed thread there’s someone using eARC who says that the audio is slightly ahead of the video.

[LordoftheRings]

On the subject of eARC, HDMI 2.1, 8K, 4K, Gaming, Xbox X, ...all that visual/audio jazz ...

▪︎https://www.engadget.com/hdmi-2-1-xb...034534313.html

[Gold Ranger]

Okay, so, how am I supposed to cable this stuff?
I have
TCL 5 Series TV
Panny UB820
Sony receiver 5.2.2 channel I'll get the model number when I get home.

Do I run the player to the tv and to the reciever at the same time? One for video, one for audio?

Or some other way?

[ronboster]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Okay, so, how am I supposed to cable this stuff?
I have
TCL 5 Series TV
Panny UB820
Sony receiver 5.2.2 channel I'll get the model number when I get home.

Do I run the player to the tv and to the receiver at the same time? One for video, one for audio?

Or some other way?

Previous JVC projectors have been finicky relative to syncing with UHD players, I've set up audio only to the audio processor and video signal direct to the projector (in your case the TCL TV). You'll notice there are two HDMI outputs on the back of the 820 (follow the manual for proper settings).

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

Okay, so, how am I supposed to cable this stuff?
I have
TCL 5 Series TV
Panny UB820
Sony receiver 5.2.2 channel I'll get the model number when I get home.

Do I run the player to the tv and to the reciever at the same time? One for video, one for audio?

Or some other way?

UB820 --> Sony Receiver --> TCL

Just the way it was meant to be. If you use the TV apps, just make sure you use the ARC input on the TV (on the AVR the main HDMI out also serves as the ARC), and make sure your TV-Audio auto switch is enabled (via CEC commands). You'll send both audio/video from UB820 to the AVR through a single HDMI cable.

[Gold Ranger]

Originally Posted by pbz06

UB820 --> Sony Receiver --> TCL

Just the way it was meant to be. If you use the TV apps, just make sure you use the ARC input on the TV (on the AVR the main HDMI out also serves as the ARC), and make sure your TV-Audio auto switch is enabled (via CEC commands). You'll send both audio/video from UB820 to the AVR through a single HDMI cable.

The Sony and the tv and the UB all do Dolby Vision, so I put it in the Dolby Vision slot 1 HDMI, correct?

[pbz06]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

The Sony and the tv and the UB all do Dolby Vision, so I put it in the Dolby Vision slot 1 HDMI, correct?

Technically the TV does Dolby Vision, the other devices are just compliant and are able to pass it through

I don't know off hand which HDMI slot you need to connect to for Dolby Vision on the input side of the AVR (I'm assuming all are HDMI 2.0b compliant) just make sure by checking the specs and manual. I'm certain on the TCL the ARC one would work.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Gold Ranger

The Sony and the tv and the UB all do Dolby Vision, so I put it in the Dolby Vision slot 1 HDMI, correct?

Originally Posted by pbz06

Technically the TV does Dolby Vision, the other devices are just compliant and are able to pass it through

I don't know off hand which HDMI slot you need to connect to for Dolby Vision on the input side of the AVR (I'm assuming all are HDMI 2.0b compliant) just make sure by checking the specs and manual. I'm certain on the TCL the ARC one would work.

All of the HDMI connections are 2.0 on the TCL 5 series, HDMI 4 is ARC. I'd use that if you want to send audio from your TV's and its Apps and other devices to your AVR.

Make sure that your HDMI Mode with the TCL is 2.0.

[Blu-Curry]

I've noticed that not many (if any?) TVs themselves support DTS:X audio, which I guess means those TVs do not pass the DTS:X signal through eARC to the receiver. The UB820 supports DTS:X, so I suppose users are connecting the video HDMI to the TV and the audio HDMI directly to the receiver?

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Blu-Curry

I've noticed that not many (if any?) TVs themselves support DTS:X audio, which I guess means those TVs do not pass the DTS:X signal through eARC to the receiver. The UB820 supports DTS:X, so I suppose users are connecting the video HDMI to the TV and the audio HDMI directly to the receiver?

You have to go back to the LG C9 OLED to passthrough DTS:X through eARC, the next two generations dropped support, not a huge issue for those that have something like the 820, where you can send off audio separately, but if you have a new console (dropping DTS has upset a lot of people with new consoles) and an AVR that's a few years old (and need higher frame rates), you'll need a splitter that doesn't downscale to the lowest device, or forget about DTS.

If your AVR supports DTS:X you just plug your player in to it, as you don't have to send audio to your display anyway, but you have options with two HDMI outputs.

[newtbludger]

I have the 820 and I'm noticing some occasional white flashing on HDR10 movies. Whenever watching standard HDR10 movies on the player there will be times in the film where the entire screen flashes white. I haven't seen this issue present on any SDR or Dolby Vision content on the player. I have a Sony Z9D and haven't experienced any flashing like this with my PS5 or Xbox Series X so I'm fairly certain it's the player. Is this a known issue? Should I try getting it sent in to be fixed by panasonic? Some movies I've had the flashing with are Dunkirk, kong skull island, Rear window, and just now with incredibles 2. I can't seem to replicate the issue as when I replay the scene where the flashing happened it doesn't reoccur

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by newtbludger

I have the 820 and I'm noticing some occasional white flashing on HDR10 movies. Whenever watching standard HDR10 movies on the player there will be times in the film where the entire screen flashes white. I haven't seen this issue present on any SDR or Dolby Vision content on the player. I have a Sony Z9D and haven't experienced any flashing like this with my PS5 or Xbox Series X so I'm fairly certain it's the player. Is this a known issue? Should I try getting it sent in to be fixed by panasonic? Some movies I've had the flashing with are Dunkirk, kong skull island, Rear window, and just now with incredibles 2. I can't seem to replicate the issue as when I replay the scene where the flashing happened it doesn't reoccur

I’ve got an 820 and a ZD9, I’ve never had a white flash using that combo with HDR10. Replace the HDMI cable and/or try a different HDMI socket on the TV.

[newtbludger]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

I’ve got an 820 and a ZD9, I’ve never had a white flash using that combo with HDR10. Replace the HDMI cable and/or try a different HDMI socket on the TV.

Unfortunately have already tried changing the HDMI cable. Doesn't seem to make a difference. As for the HDMI socket I have all my devices going through my denon reciever and haven't had issues with the other devices with HDR (SHIELD, PS5, XBOX). Now that I think about it though do you think the socket on the reciever could be an issue?. I could try changing the UB820 HDMI cable to the 8K (hdmi 2.1 port) on the reciever and see if it makes any difference. Not saying the higher HDMI spec will make a difference but I typically use that port with my PS5 so I know it works

[Daz_85]

I have the white flashing issue but specifically with Dolby Vision content. I’ve found setting my LG TV to ‘game mode’ fixed it, but I still have an issue where the image goes briefly dim on various shots and only on some 4K titles. No issue with HDR10 on this player, and no issues with HDR10/DV content on streaming apps.

[gto35830]

Originally Posted by Badas

Yay! F#ckin Yay!
I'm picking up my UB9000 on my way home tonight.
I like the look of that build quality.

Retiring 1 x Oppo 103D and the UB820.

The buid on the UB9000 is great!!! Was in Best Buy Friday and was able to pick up an open box UB9000 for a great price of $549. Thing is super heavy kinda like the OPPO203. Going to retire my UP820 which I replaced my OPPO203 with. So far so good with the 90000. enjoy yours.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by newtbludger

Unfortunately have already tried changing the HDMI cable. Doesn't seem to make a difference. As for the HDMI socket I have all my devices going through my denon reciever and haven't had issues with the other devices with HDR (SHIELD, PS5, XBOX). Now that I think about it though do you think the socket on the reciever could be an issue?. I could try changing the UB820 HDMI cable to the 8K (hdmi 2.1 port) on the reciever and see if it makes any difference. Not saying the higher HDMI spec will make a difference but I typically use that port with my PS5 so I know it works

I'd try going directly into your display first.

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by gto35830

The buid on the UB9000 is great!!! Was in Best Buy Friday and was able to pick up an open box UB9000 for a great price of $549. Thing is super heavy kinda like the OPPO203. Going to retire my UP820 which I replaced my OPPO203 with. So far so good with the 90000. enjoy yours.

$549!

[sapiendut]

$549 is super amazing price.

[LordoftheRings]

And the weight of the 9000 (17.2 lb) is closer to the Oppo 205's weight (22 lb) than the 203's weight (9.5 lb).

@ $549 I'd buy four of them; so that I can give three of them (birthday's presents) to family members and friends.