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Old 12-24-2022, 12:24 PM   #11421
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The 131 is a UB900 remote not for the UB9000 and doesn't have the HDR button. Just use your original remote instead. The knock-off 172 remotes are generally ok but if you want the real thing then buy directly from Panasonic as they are cheaper than ebay etc.

To check if the HDR optimizer is on/off you can press the option button while playing a HDR disc and go to picture settings. I don't think you can change the standard/bright room settings without the correct HDR settings button

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Old 12-24-2022, 12:28 PM   #11422
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Is there a way to check that setting with the 131 remote that I have?
Just press the Video Settings button and make sure the slider and other Optimizer options are zero.
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Old 12-24-2022, 01:06 PM   #11423
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Im wondering now if I should grab the Hisense U8H.
I've suggested the idea of getting another brand prior because it seems like the TCL is not working out for you. The tv is problematic already, and it's still brand new. Whatever the source of the issue with the Dolby Vision, something else might go wrong with it, even with the warranty. A brand new tv shouldn't have anything wrong with it at all, whether if it's a firmware issue, or a bad motherboard. Follow your instinct! If you're wondering about getting a Hisense then go for it, if you don't want a Vizio.

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Old 12-24-2022, 01:09 PM   #11424
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As you all know, I have a LG C9 and I turn "On" Dynamic Tone Mapping as well as use the HDR Optimizer from my 820 (it's set at Super High Luminance) for HDR10 movies. I know that LG's DTM can overcook a lot of the picture, making it way too bright in certain scenes. I've been toying around with the Optimum HDR Settings, specifically the Dynamic Range Adjustment setting and I have noticed that as I decrease that setting, the overcooked picture looks a lot better and honestly normal.

Now is this how you go about using the Dynamic Range Adjustment or am I ruining my picture by adjusting it?
The Super High Luminance display setting in the 820/9000 targets a 1500 nit display - no current OLED (even the Sony A95K) gets to 1500 nits. The HDR Optimizer will tone map with a target luminance that exceeds your display. Try using the OLED display target in the HDR Optimizer and see what you think.
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Old 12-24-2022, 01:57 PM   #11425
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The Super High Luminance display setting in the 820/9000 targets a 1500 nit display - no current OLED (even the Sony A95K) gets to 1500 nits. The HDR Optimizer will tone map with a target luminance that exceeds your display. Try using the OLED display target in the HDR Optimizer and see what you think.
That's not what that setting is for. Because even at the OLED Setting, it is still setting the target display at 1,000 nits and my LG C9 goes up to 750 nits max luminance.

No, what the HDR Optimizer setting is used for is to get close to the max nits that the TV can properly tone map without getting blown out highlights. I have tested things out quite a lot and have discovered the LG C9 tone maps HDR Content above the 1,000 nit OLED Setting. This is why I have it set at Super High Luminance.

That OLED Setting was programed back in 2017 so that setting, at least in my eyes, is a little out dated now. Most OLEDs do quite well tone mapping content well above 1,000 nits. It's when you get into the crazy HDR gradings, like Sony Light Canon movies that the HDR Optimizer comes in handy. Of course now Sony is re-releasing a lot of their movies in Dolby Vision, which takes care of the problem.

My issue is that I like using the Dynamic Tone Mapping setting on my LG C9 (because I like a dynamic picture like Dolby Vision than a static one) and I get a blown out/ overly bright picture from time to time. I have been experimenting with changing the Dynamic Range Adjustment Slider down in the Panasonic 820's HDR Menu and it seems to correct the issue. But I'm wanting to know if that is ruining the picture or am I helping the picture out by using the slider?

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Old 12-24-2022, 03:19 PM   #11426
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I have a question, I think I have everything set up correctly but when I look at the information screen the right side is blank unlike this picture which has information on both sides. I have a 820 and Sony A9S OLED and used the new Labyrinth DV disc to test it.

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Need someone to explain me one thing.
In my understanding it was if HDR Optimiser turned on, and my settings set to OLED so anything that have less MaxLL and and same Maximum Luminance of 1000 - optimiser wouldn't do a thing.

And now I'm seeing this.



Ok, I understand why it's sending Maximum Luminance this small - there's really no need - but should it do it?

Also why Max FALL is lower than it is on disc?
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Old 12-24-2022, 03:31 PM   #11427
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I have a question, I think I have everything set up correctly but when I look at the information screen the right side is blank unlike this picture which has information on both sides. I have a 820 and Sony A9S OLED and used the new Labyrinth DV disc to test it.
You wont get that info when watching in DV - the optimizer is for HDR10 only
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Old 12-24-2022, 03:45 PM   #11428
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Ah, ok. Thought I'm supposed to see this stuff for all discs. Tells you how new I am.
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Old 12-24-2022, 03:51 PM   #11429
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You could always turn off DV if you really need to see it
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Old 12-24-2022, 05:02 PM   #11430
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Ok, I’m trying to set my player and I ran into this:

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I bought these cables. Are they not good enough?

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Or is there some other problem?
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:10 PM   #11431
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Maybe a bad cable? It happens.
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Old 12-24-2022, 06:45 PM   #11432
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Where can I get this official remote?
It's available on the European Panasonic website: https://store.eu.panasonic.com/sp_fr...aya000172.html (sorry, this is the French one, there's no English page apparently).

Mine is on the way, got shipped on the 21st so it'll probably be here next week (it shipped from Germany apparently).

If you're not in Europe then I'm not sure.
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Old 12-24-2022, 07:16 PM   #11433
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Ok, I’m trying to set my player and I ran into this:


Or is there some other problem?
I had that problem once, when I set the player up at a friends house. The problem there wasn't the HDMI-Cable. It was his TV. It's HDMI-Inputs weren't in 4K/UHD mode yet. I had to set them up in the TVs menu for that first, after that it worked. Maybe that's the problem you're having as well.
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Old 12-24-2022, 07:29 PM   #11434
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I had that problem once, when I set the player up at a friends house. The problem there wasn't the HDMI-Cable. It was his TV. It's HDMI-Inputs weren't in 4K/UHD mode yet. I had to set them up in the TVs menu for that first, after that it worked. Maybe that's the problem you're having as well.
Even if the HDMI port that I’m plugging into is labeled 4K 120 Hz?

I previously had my Sony 4K player plugged into that port and their wasn’t an issue.
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Old 12-24-2022, 08:53 PM   #11435
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The 131 is a UB900 remote not for the UB9000 and doesn't have the HDR button.
That's a great remote. Not sure why one wouldn't use it.
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Old 12-24-2022, 08:58 PM   #11436
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Hmmm…well that was odd.

I started by routing the player through my sound bar (that’s what the sound bar instructions direct) and the TV didn’t detect the player.

So then I connected the player directly to the TV and that’s when I got the “can’t find a 4K connection” error.

Shut it down as my wife wanted to watch Netflix and when I came back a couple hours later I plugged the player into the sound bar again (wanted to try one more time before switching out the premium cables with the regular cables the devices came with)

TV detected the player, was able to get through the entire set up, and now I’m ready to go. Weird.
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Old 12-24-2022, 09:04 PM   #11437
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That's a great remote. Not sure why one wouldn't use it.
There's nothing wrong with that remote but it is missing several useful buttons such as the -10/+60 seconds skip as well as the hdr buttons. Any Panasonic BR remote will operate the basic functions. But it would make more sense to get the 172 remote.
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Old 12-24-2022, 10:04 PM   #11438
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Hmmm…well that was odd.

I started by routing the player through my sound bar (that’s what the sound bar instructions direct) and the TV didn’t detect the player.

So then I connected the player directly to the TV and that’s when I got the “can’t find a 4K connection” error.

Shut it down as my wife wanted to watch Netflix and when I came back a couple hours later I plugged the player into the sound bar again (wanted to try one more time before switching out the premium cables with the regular cables the devices came with)

TV detected the player, was able to get through the entire set up, and now I’m ready to go. Weird.
HDMI is a mysterious beast.
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Old 12-25-2022, 01:35 AM   #11439
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There's nothing wrong with that remote but it is missing several useful buttons such as the -10/+60 seconds skip as well as the hdr buttons. Any Panasonic BR remote will operate the basic functions. But it would make more sense to get the 172 remote.
Oh, I guess that isn't the one I thought it was. Mine has those skip buttons, a Panasonic logo and feels as real as any other remote I have. There's a middle ground between cheap crap and full-price, directly from Panasonic here. I paid less than $30 including shipping and taxes.
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HDMI is a mysterious beast.
HDMI is great when it works and a beotch when it doesn't. Really frustrating stuff, at times.
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