Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[ronand]

Originally Posted by dlwmacgregor

OK thanks.
Does that mod work for the UB420K?

If so, where can I find the patch instructions?

Yes it will work for the UB420. You will have to read through the thread on avforums on the link you were given already.

[Keoma]

I just purchased a UB9000. I am using it in the following manner with a Sony A80J oled and Denon receiver:

HDMI 1 outputs both audio and video directly to the Oled.
HDMI 2 outputs audio only to the Denon.

In this configuration, when playing a DTS title, the player seems to be outputting PCM via HDMI 2 and the Denon is displaying this as "Multi In" instead of DTS-HD.

All output settings are set to "bitstream".

Could it be that the Sony oled does not support DTS? HDMI 2 is only outputting audio, but HDMI 1 is outputting both video and audio, so the Panasonic detects that the Sony is not compatible with DTS and then converts it to PCM on both HDMI outputs. Maybe that is the reason?

Is there any way to force the player to output the DTS signal?

Thanks in advance.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Keoma

I just purchased a UB9000. I am using it in the following manner with a Sony A80J oled and Denon receiver:

HDMI 1 outputs both audio and video directly to the Oled.
HDMI 2 outputs audio only to the Denon.

In this configuration, when playing a DTS title, the player seems to be outputting PCM via HDMI 2 and the Denon is displaying this as "Multi In" instead of DTS-HD.

All output settings are set to "bitstream".

Could it be that the Sony oled does not support DTS? HDMI 2 is only outputting audio, but HDMI 1 is outputting both video and audio, so the Panasonic detects that the Sony is not compatible with DTS and then converts it to PCM on both HDMI outputs. Maybe that is the reason?

Is there any way to force the player to output the DTS signal?

Thanks in advance.

It happens with me all you have to do is entering the setup and put HDMI 1 on Auto HDMI 2 on auto or Audio only. Please try it and make sure Your BD secondary is off

[sa5150]

I have a chance to get a 9000 for a bit less , Might pull the trigger , Can this play MKV files in DTS-HD Master ? And how is the upconvert/Upscaling for DVDS ?

[Geoff D]

No and terrible

[bl4ck]

Originally Posted by sa5150

I have a chance to get a 9000 for a bit less , Might pull the trigger , Can this play MKV files in DTS-HD Master ? And how is the upconvert/Upscaling for DVDS ?

MKV no, maybe someday..
DVD Upscaling great.

[jurid]

Originally Posted by sa5150

I have a chance to get a 9000 for a bit less , ... And how is the upconvert/Upscaling for DVDS ?

(1) For 24fps sourced DVDs (like movies and some shows) it is actually not bad.
(2) For 60i sourced video (like concerts and some shows), and any SD resolution video on Blu-Ray (such as featurettes, often presented in SD on Blu-ray discs) - is pretty bad.

[Ben_R]

Originally Posted by bl4ck

MKV no, maybe someday..
DVD Upscaling great.

[Keoma]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

It happens with me all you have to do is entering the setup and put HDMI 1 on Auto HDMI 2 on auto or Audio only. Please try it and make sure Your BD secondary is off

I just tried this and unfortunately I get no audio via HDMI 1 this way. I also do not see an "Auto" option under HDMI 2. This is driving me crazy. I can not for the life of me get this player to output 5.1 formats via HDMI. It is a modified, region-free player. Not sure if that makes a difference.

[sa5150]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

No and terrible

Even at the sale price I'm getting , I'll stick with my Sony for 4k & Oppo 103D for blu-rays & dvds . Heck the Sony X800m2 rocks on dvd .

No justification to spend $800 . I can buy a ton more movies for that kind of money . Was excited to see a scratch and dent but it better do everything I want it to and nah big pass , You guy's saved me a lot of money .

Thanks .

[PUsokrJosh305]

Originally Posted by sa5150

Even at the sale price I'm getting , I'll stick with my Sony for 4k & Oppo 103D for blu-rays & dvds . Heck the Sony X800m2 rocks on dvd .

No justification to spend $800 . I can buy a ton more movies for that kind of money . Was excited to see a scratch and dent but it better do everything I want it to and nah big pass , You guy's saved me a lot of money .

Thanks .

The Panny 820 is just as good, unless if you really need that extra features, otherwise the 820 is the same.

And I actually find the 820 does a pretty good job with DVDs, once you actually go in the settings and shift the artificial sharpening down to 0. DVD movies that were shot on film look actually really nice.

I'm sure there are better players out there that can upconvert DVDs but come on, they are DVDs after all.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Keoma

I just tried this and unfortunately I get no audio via HDMI 1 this way. I also do not see an "Auto" option under HDMI 2. This is driving me crazy. I can not for the life of me get this player to output 5.1 formats via HDMI. It is a modified, region-free player. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Make sure the player is set to Bitstream then check:

Quick Settings [Settings][Display & Sound][Audio output][Pass through mode][On]

with your SONY.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Keoma

I just tried this and unfortunately I get no audio via HDMI 1 this way. I also do not see an "Auto" option under HDMI 2. This is driving me crazy. I can not for the life of me get this player to output 5.1 formats via HDMI. It is a modified, region-free player. Not sure if that makes a difference.

I don't think so for region free playback. Before you told me HDMI 2 is connected directly to your receiver whereas HDMI 1 to OLED correct. It should work if you put HDMI 1 on auto and HDMI 2 audio only. Audio bitstream for both dts and Dolby including BD secondary to off. If still doesn't pull out the plug from the wall for the receiver and check on your OLED tv is receiving dts while pressing display button on your remote Panasonic player. Last resort to resolve it do a full factory reset.

[Telemachus]

I didn't like the Panny upscaling at all when I used it for awhile on 1080p discs, much worse than my LG, maybe it looked better in 2018. Not sure how either handles DVDs but I tend to just play those on my HD DVD player and forget about it. I switch it to the resolution I need at the time on the Panny, it's not annoying.

[chip75]

Originally Posted by Keoma

I just tried this and unfortunately I get no audio via HDMI 1 this way. I also do not see an "Auto" option under HDMI 2. This is driving me crazy. I can not for the life of me get this player to output 5.1 formats via HDMI. It is a modified, region-free player. Not sure if that makes a difference.

By HDMI 1 do you mean no audio when the AVR is off (and just want to hear through the TV's speakers) or when you're using the Denon's TV Audio HDMI input? the Panasonic's HDMI 2 will be on a different input, not the one that's coming/going from the eARC.

Also it's worth double-checking that HDMI 1is going to the SONY and HDMI 2 is going to the Denon (I connect mine to the Blu-ray input), and not the other way around.

As the other poster mentioned try connecting the player directly to make sure the player's settings are in order, and also check you've enabled eARC with the SONY, although that shouldn't really matter if you're sending audio to the Denon directly (but you need it for the TV's Apps).

If you just want audio from your TV make sure there's no power going to your AVR if you want to use your Panasonic.

[Keoma]

Originally Posted by chip75

Make sure the player is set to Bitstream then check:

Quick Settings [Settings][Display & Sound][Audio output][Pass through mode][On]

with your SONY.

Thank you! I will try this later tonight. It is currently set to "off", so changing this may do the trick.

[Keoma]

Originally Posted by chip75

By HDMI 1 do you mean no audio when the AVR is off (and just want to hear through the TV's speakers) or when you're using the Denon's TV Audio HDMI input? the Panasonic's HDMI 2 will be on a different input, not the one that's coming/going from the eARC.

Also it's worth double-checking that HDMI 1is going to the SONY and HDMI 2 is going to the Denon (I connect mine to the Blu-ray input), and not the other way around.

As the other poster mentioned try connecting the player directly to make sure the player's settings are in order, and also check you've enabled eARC with the SONY, although that shouldn't really matter if you're sending audio to the Denon directly (but you need it for the TV's Apps).

If you just want audio from your TV make sure there's no power going to your AVR if you want to use your Panasonic.

I have yet to try what Chip75 suggested, which is:

Changing this on the Sony A80J Oled:
[Settings][Display & Sound][Audio output][Pass through mode][On]

I will try this later tonight. However, this is what I did last night:

What seems to have done the trick was to simply disconnect the HDMI cable from the HDMI 2 port on the Panasonic 9000. If I then use *only* HDMI 1 out in VIDEO + AUDIO mode, and if there is nothing else connected to HDMI 2, the Panasonic passes a full signal to the Sony A80J using the "Bitstream" setting, and the Sony detects it as Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD, Dolby Digital Plus, etc., etc. All formats are properly recognized by the Sony TV in this manner. But if I connect a cable to HDMI 2 on the back of the Panasonic, even if the other end of this cable goes to a receiver that is off (but still plugged into the wall), the Panasonic then converts everything to PCM.

I will also try the following configuration next:

HDMI 1: Video only
HDMI 2: audio only

...and see if that works... but it's not really ideal for me, as I really prefer to have both Audio and Video on HDMI 1.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

I didn't like the Panny upscaling at all when I used it for awhile on 1080p discs, much worse than my LG, maybe it looked better in 2018. Not sure how either handles DVDs but I tend to just play those on my HD DVD player and forget about it. I switch it to the resolution I need at the time on the Panny, it's not annoying.

I was fine with it, but recently bought a Lumagen Radiance Pro and its 1080p upscaling is noticeably better. Because the Panasonic doesn't have a 'source direct' mode I am now using it strictly for UHD BD while using my Oppo 103D for 1080p to be upscaled by the Lumagen

[Wintermute]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

I didn't like the Panny upscaling at all when I used it for awhile on 1080p discs, much worse than my LG, maybe it looked better in 2018.

Are you talking about the Panasonic 820/9000? I thought those were the best at upscaling 1080p blu-rays!

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by Keoma

I have yet to try what Chip75 suggested, which is:

Changing this on the Sony A80J Oled:
[Settings][Display & Sound][Audio output][Pass through mode][On]

I will try this later tonight. However, this is what I did last night:

What seems to have done the trick was to simply disconnect the HDMI cable from the HDMI 2 port on the Panasonic 9000. If I then use *only* HDMI 1 out in VIDEO + AUDIO mode, and if there is nothing else connected to HDMI 2, the Panasonic passes a full signal to the Sony A80J using the "Bitstream" setting, and the Sony detects it as Dolby Atmos, DTS-HD, Dolby Digital Plus, etc., etc. All formats are properly recognized by the Sony TV in this manner. But if I connect a cable to HDMI 2 on the back of the Panasonic, even if the other end of this cable goes to a receiver that is off (but still plugged into the wall), the Panasonic then converts everything to PCM.

I will also try the following configuration next:

HDMI 1: Video only
HDMI 2: audio only

...and see if that works... but it's not really ideal for me, as I really prefer to have both Audio and Video on HDMI 1.

For this reason you didn't get sound on your tv because HDMI 2 was connected to your receiver. Your receiver capable of decoding Dolby Atmos and DTS x if it is forget HDMI 2 .go directly to your receiver then output to your tv. It's should be HDMI 1 on auto and HDMI 2 on audio only my recommendation.

Note: u can still listening to your tv speakers while your receiver is in standby . There is a setting for your receiver called passthrough during standby.