Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[Jackie Scanlon]

Have any UB9000 owners had any issues with playing NC-17 and unrated region 1 Fox DVDs, where it keeps coming up with an on-disc message (with the Fox logo behind it, so it's not an error on the discs) saying the disc cannot be played due to the player's parental settings? I've got it set on 8 (all unlocked) and tried 1 to 7 as well, but it came up with the same message every time. Tried several discs and the only ones affected seem to be Fox releases rated NC-17 or unrated.

I think it must be some quirk in the player itself (mine is multi-region for both DVD and blu-ray, if that makes a difference) as the same discs all play without issue on my older Panasonic. It's not the end of the world because of that, but the upscaling on the UB9000 is much better than on the old Panny.

[red_5ive]

Is there any reason to get the 820 over the 420 if I don't use DV? Like does the 820 have better internals/parts, more reliable and less likely to freeze, perform better overall (significantly faster load times, faster seek, etc.)?

[FilmFreakosaurus]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Is there any reason to get the 820 over the 420 if I don't use DV? Like does the 820 have better internals/parts, more reliable and less likely to freeze, perform better overall (significantly faster load times, faster seek, etc.)?

You have displays that accept and process Dolby Vision. Get the 820. Even a 4K HDR10 projector or Samsung 4k HDR10 display with no Dolby Vision can be converted to Dolby Vision support with an HDFury device, so the 820 would still be necessary.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by FilmFreakosaurus

You have displays that accept and process Dolby Vision. Get the 820. Even a 4K HDR10 projector or Samsung 4k HDR10 display with no Dolby Vision can be converted to Dolby Vision support with an HDFury device, so the 820 would still be necessary.

I was trying to put it mildly cause I didn't want to get flamed by the DV police. But I guess I'll just be blunt. I don't like DV so I will not use it. And please don't try to convince me otherwise.

So question still stands. Is there another reason to get the 820 over the 420 other than DV (is the 820 built better, more reliable, performs better?).

[BijouMan]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

100gb discs only work on data drives I've been told, or if they work on a Blu ray player it will only see two layers, I always thought they specifically have to support those discs, I think the M-Disc drives are one of the models.

A drive is only going to "see" all or no layers. If a drive is not capable of reading three-layer discs, it will not read them at all. The only set-top Ultra HD Blu-ray players I know of that have drives capable of reading BD-R 100 discs are some Blu-ray DVR units sold mostly in Japan.

[mx77]

Originally Posted by BijouMan

A drive is only going to "see" all or no layers. If a drive is not capable of reading three-layer discs, it will not read them at all. The only set-top Ultra HD Blu-ray players I know of that have drives capable of reading BD-R 100 discs are some Blu-ray DVR units sold mostly in Japan.

Please read my earlier post to this thread. Sony and Panasonic x50 players are capable of reading bdxl (bd-r 100) discs, but with limitations. On my Panasonic dp-ub450 some of the bdxl discs played without errors, some had issues on layer switch.

Someone else asked if the recordable media is still a thing and yes it is. In my case, I burned imported discs with finnish subtitles to bd-r dl or bdxl discs since I don't like to use harddrives to host my movies.

[Scorxpion]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Is there any reason to get the 820 over the 420 if I don't use DV? Like does the 820 have better internals/parts, more reliable and less likely to freeze, perform better overall (significantly faster load times, faster seek, etc.)?

Go ahead with ub420 the difference are analog outputs Dolby vision screen on the front and optical drive. But they are using the same processor which is HCX

[Fors*]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Is there any reason to get the 820 over the 420 if I don't use DV? Like does the 820 have better internals/parts, more reliable and less likely to freeze, perform better overall (significantly faster load times, faster seek, etc.)?

Adding something to the office set up? Thought you were saving your money? Anyway, for your purposes, go with the 420....it will get the job done.

[Telemachus]

The 420/820/9000 are all basically the same player in HDR and base functions, buy the one you want to spend for and call it a day. If you don't get the 9000 save $10 for a clone 9k remote

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by Scorxpion

Go ahead with ub420 the difference are analog outputs Dolby vision screen on the front and optical drive. But they are using the same processor which is HCX

Can you clarify what you mean by optical drive? I mean, aren't all disc format based players (cd, dvd, bd, etc.) using some type of optical drive?

Originally Posted by Fors*

Adding something to the office set up? Thought you were saving your money? Anyway, for your purposes, go with the 420....it will get the job done.

I've been needing to replace my garbage Samsung players for a while now. I am looking to buy a new truck next year, but hobby expenses are, at times, a necessity .

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

The 420/820/9000 are all basically the same player in HDR and base functions, buy the one you want to spend for and call it a day. If you don't get the 9000 save $10 for a clone 9k remote

Is there an advantage to the 9000 remote vs a Logitech Harmony? The 9000 codes should be available in the Harmony database since Logitech is still supporting the product.

[Scorxpion]

[QUOTE=red_5ive;22043466]Can you clarify what you mean by optical drive? I mean, aren't all disc format based players (cd, dvd, bd, etc.) using some type of optical drive?

What I mean by optical drive is a different item than the one use in 420. At the end all are the same as you said.

[red_5ive]

[quote=Scorxpion;22043535]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Can you clarify what you mean by optical drive? I mean, aren't all disc format based players (cd, dvd, bd, etc.) using some type of optical drive?

What I mean by optical drive is a different item than the one use in 420. At the end all are the same as you said.

Got it, thanks. Of course now I'm wondering if the one in the 820 is a better drive in terms of reliability and read speed.

Just thinking out loud, really.

[Telemachus]

Originally Posted by red_5ive

Is there an advantage to the 9000 remote vs a Logitech Harmony? The 9000 codes should be available in the Harmony database since Logitech is still supporting the product.

I would say yes, the HDR optimizer button and subtitle button are invaluable for quick access, doubtful to be on a universal, or the -10s or +60s buttons, little things like that. If you just press play and stop then whatever, but I tend to always do things on the remote during most films at least during initial setup.

[red_5ive]

Originally Posted by Telemachus

I would say yes, the HDR optimizer button and subtitle button are invaluable for quick access, doubtful to be on a universal, or the -10s or +60s buttons, little things like that. If you just press play and stop then whatever, but I tend to always do things on the remote during most films at least during initial setup.

If you've never used a Harmony, they keep an online database of downloadable codes that you program to their remotes. The database is fairly complete. I looked up the 9000, and the HDR command is there, and something like subtitle is pretty much standard with every player I've ever owned, and has always been available in the Harmony database for every device I've owned. Which is the case with the 420 and 9000 (I didn't check the 820, but I suspect it's there for that model as well). Historically, I tend to grab the flagship model of a device as they tend to have more commands, and almost always work on the lower models in that line or even brand. That is also the case with the 9000, which does have more commands available in the database than the 420.

I always do an initial setup as well to select subs and audio codec depending on the disc, and I also pick a DSP and tone/sub/bass settings on my processor depending on the source I'm watching or listening to. With the more common routines, I have macros setup so that I touch a button and it goes through a command sequence automatically to set things. All from the Harmony.

[WhiteTim]

So never had this issue im currently watching a movie and on the top right screen it has the hdr10 plastered over it anyway to get it off?

[Geoff D]

Originally Posted by WhiteTim

So never had this issue im currently watching a movie and on the top right screen it has the hdr10 plastered over it anyway to get it off?

Press the Status button on the remote a couple times

[WhiteTim]

What’s a good resell for the 820? It’s over a year old still in great condition got the box and everything but considering that I have now sold all my physical media the player just seems redundant

[AKORIS]

Originally Posted by WhiteTim

What’s a good resell for the 820? It’s over a year old still in great condition got the box and everything but considering that I have now sold all my physical media the player just seems redundant

player retails for $499
best sale price I've seen is $399

used price should be somewhere between $250 and $299

[backwater]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

player retails for $499
best sale price I've seen is $399

used price should be somewhere between $250 and $299

It was on sale for $350 last November