Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player - Page 77 - Blu-ray Forum

RodChester · 09-16-2018, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

Amazon app is garbage. Amazon and Panny didn’t test it at all.

I have always used a standalone streaming device. Most player apps are no where near as good as those on devices like a Roku or Apple TV.

elwaylite · 09-17-2018, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by RodChester

I have always used a standalone streaming device. Most player apps are no where near as good as those on devices like a Roku or Apple TV.

I have an ATV. The 820 has a better hdr image, and that stand is not correct on many Blu-ray players. The Sony’s handle 24p and amazon and Netflix well. Panasonic needs to learn from them.

None of this excuses why they release the Amazon app when it doesn’t work properly. The Netflix app is the newest version and works great.

RodChester · 09-17-2018, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by elwaylite

I have an ATV. The 820 has a better hdr image, and that stand is not correct on many Blu-ray players. The Sony’s handle 24p and amazon and Netflix well. Panasonic needs to learn from them.

None of this excuses why they release the Amazon app when it doesn’t work properly. The Netflix app is the newest version and works great.

Yeah, that makes sense about the 820 producing better HDR with the streaming apps. I don’t have a 4K Netflix subscription, so HDR with Netflix wasn’t at the front of my mind.

d514 · 09-17-2018, 08:50 AM

It seems that most posts in this thread that talk about the results of the HDR optimizer are referring to the use of it with projectors, OLED TVs and low nit LCDs.

How big is the benefit of the HDR optimizer with TVs that are capable of 1000 nits or more?

Geoff D · 09-17-2018, 10:09 AM

If a display has got the kind of brightness levels that HDR's absolute luminance demands (though I'm not just talking about peak brightness but having the correct APL as well) then even if the mapping isn't stellar we won't usually run into the problems that low nits + poor mapping can create. Could it still finesse the HDR to the nth degree on such a TV? Yeah but I'm not sure anyone's been all that bothered to find out.

MarkyM · 09-17-2018, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Does the Netflix App have the info bar with any Panasonic players? I thought pressing PLAYBACK INFO. would bring up the resolution/bitrate/connection speed?

I would like to know this as well. I can't find it either.

elwaylite · 09-17-2018, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MarkyM

I would like to know this as well. I can't find it either.

Nope.

idlebrain · 09-17-2018, 03:30 PM

Ordered this from BB for pickup. Wanted to get 9000 as it seems to have better built quality like 900, but it would take another year to come down to my price point.

openviews · 09-17-2018, 07:47 PM

Apparently expecting UB9000 stock later this month.

https://www.richersounds.com/pana-dpub9000.html

chip75 · 09-17-2018, 09:47 PM

Quick question for those who use dual HDMI outputs ... In the HDMI VIDEO field when you press PLAYBACK INFO. it gives detailed information about the video, but should HDMI AUDIO be blank (it gives the audio information and bitrate inputted but not outputted)?

Could someone snap a picture during BD playback?

openviews · 09-17-2018, 10:27 PM

UB9000.

https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/...-dolby-vision/

Geoff D · 09-18-2018, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by chip75

Quick question for those who use dual HDMI outputs ... In the HDMI VIDEO field when you press PLAYBACK INFO. it gives detailed information about the video, but should HDMI AUDIO be blank (it gives the audio information and bitrate inputted but not outputted)?

Could someone snap a picture during BD playback?

It should have something in the HDMI Audio field like 'TrueHD' or 'DTS' but yes, the rest of it is blank because the audio information being outputted is the same as what's being inputted, so they don't bother to double up the information.

Example here, note the TrueHD logo on the right side of the HDMI Audio field. Left side is for video information, right side is for audio information. HDMI Video is outputting video but no audio, HDMI Audio is outputting audio but no video. Make sense?

Apari · 09-18-2018, 08:45 AM

Can I play Dolby Atmos test videos or otger content from usb flash drive with 820?

chip75 · 09-18-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Geoff D

It should have something in the HDMI Audio field like 'TrueHD' or 'DTS' but yes, the rest of it is blank because the audio information being outputted is the same as what's being inputted, so they don't bother to double up the information.

Example here, note the TrueHD logo on the right side of the HDMI Audio field. Left side is for video information, right side is for audio information. HDMI Video is outputting video but no audio, HDMI Audio is outputting audio but no video. Make sense?

Thanks Geoff D, yes, that makes sense. I appreciate you taking the time to snap a picture for me.

PoorSignal · 09-19-2018, 11:43 PM

anyone knows if the UB820 will do somewhat acceptable HDR->SDR conversion so I can use on a 1080p projector (Rec709), I read there is a setting for either 709 or 2020 so it may work without too much messing around.

thanks

sapiendut · 09-19-2018, 11:46 PM

Yes it does

PuppetMasterBlu · 09-20-2018, 02:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorSignal

anyone knows if the UB820 will do somewhat acceptable HDR->SDR conversion so I can use on a 1080p projector (Rec709), I read there is a setting for either 709 or 2020 so it may work without too much messing around.

thanks

It does the best conversion.

idlebrain · 09-20-2018, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Apari

Can I play Dolby Atmos test videos or otger content from usb flash drive with 820?

I think no. I tried couple of files to test my new soundbar, 820 doesn't output sound just the video. Read somewhere that Panny doesn't do losless tracks properly.

Geoff D · 09-20-2018, 10:54 PM

That's a bingo. Panasonic players DO NOT play lossless/high res DTS/Dolby audio on standalone files (regardless of container), only when played off of a disc.

idlebrain · 09-20-2018, 11:16 PM

Hooked up 820. Coming from 900, first thing that sticks out is remote. It felt like huge downgrade. Screeching noise its making when I open/close the disc tray is really bugging me. May be its just my player.
I came across this table. Doesn't 820 has the highlighted feature?

Anyways I am hoping 9000 will release before 30 day return period.

09-17-2018, 08:50 AM	#1524
d514 Expert Member Member since:May 2010 Location:Germany Trading Score:8	It seems that most posts in this thread that talk about the results of the HDR optimizer are referring to the use of it with projectors, OLED TVs and low nit LCDs. How big is the benefit of the HDR optimizer with TVs that are capable of 1000 nits or more?

09-17-2018, 10:09 AM	#1525
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	If a display has got the kind of brightness levels that HDR's absolute luminance demands (though I'm not just talking about peak brightness but having the correct APL as well) then even if the mapping isn't stellar we won't usually run into the problems that low nits + poor mapping can create. Could it still finesse the HDR to the nth degree on such a TV? Yeah but I'm not sure anyone's been all that bothered to find out.

09-17-2018, 03:30 PM	#1528
idlebrain Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Atlanta, GA Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:590 Blu-ray collection:1471 Trading Score:68	Ordered this from BB for pickup. Wanted to get 9000 as it seems to have better built quality like 900, but it would take another year to come down to my price point.

09-17-2018, 07:47 PM	#1529
openviews Expert Member Member since:Jun 2011	Apparently expecting UB9000 stock later this month. https://www.richersounds.com/pana-dpub9000.html

09-17-2018, 09:47 PM	#1530
chip75 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Wales 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:3100 DVD collection:1783 iTunes collection:231 Trading Score:9	Quick question for those who use dual HDMI outputs ... In the HDMI VIDEO field when you press PLAYBACK INFO. it gives detailed information about the video, but should HDMI AUDIO be blank (it gives the audio information and bitrate inputted but not outputted)? Could someone snap a picture during BD playback?

09-17-2018, 10:27 PM	#1531
openviews Expert Member Member since:Jun 2011	UB9000. https://www.audiovisualonline.co.uk/...-dolby-vision/

09-18-2018, 08:45 AM	#1533
Apari Member Top contributor Member since:Aug 2018 Location:Finland Home Theater Gallery:5 Trading Score:1	Can I play Dolby Atmos test videos or otger content from usb flash drive with 820?

09-19-2018, 11:43 PM	#1535
PoorSignal Senior Member Member since:Jul 2009 Trading Score:24	anyone knows if the UB820 will do somewhat acceptable HDR->SDR conversion so I can use on a 1080p projector (Rec709), I read there is a setting for either 709 or 2020 so it may work without too much messing around. thanks

09-19-2018, 11:46 PM	#1536
sapiendut Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2009 Location:Canada 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:3	Yes it does

09-20-2018, 10:54 PM	#1539
Geoff D Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Feb 2009 Location:Swanage, Engerland 4K collection:1348 Blu-ray collection:2525 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:33	That's a bingo. Panasonic players DO NOT play lossless/high res DTS/Dolby audio on standalone files (regardless of container), only when played off of a disc.

09-20-2018, 11:16 PM	#1540
idlebrain Power Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2009 Location:Atlanta, GA Home Theater Gallery:7 4K collection:590 Blu-ray collection:1471 Trading Score:68	Hooked up 820. Coming from 900, first thing that sticks out is remote. It felt like huge downgrade. Screeching noise its making when I open/close the disc tray is really bugging me. May be its just my player. I came across this table. Doesn't 820 has the highlighted feature? Anyways I am hoping 9000 will release before 30 day return period.

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