Panasonic UB820/UB9000 4K UHD Blu-ray player

[sapiendut]

You don’t HAVE to play with all the settings, y’know.

Also that’s why calibrators can’t only be certified and be done. I recertify myself every a couple of years. Plus I received training from Technicolor and individual display companies to know more about their displays.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

jeez... I was ready to upgrade to this player after doing some research but after skimming through this thread.....

it all sounds so confusing with so many options for settings and adjustments... It would seems like I'd have to spend a week testing every little option to make my 4k discs look best... and then would the same settings look good on a conventional blu ray?

and then of course I'd have to match up my TV settings as well to make PQ differences.

Am I reading too much into this or do I have to be a certified electronics specialist to understand all this stuff? (nits? really? I used to sell electronics back in the mid 90's but all the changes that have happened the past decades have truly made me a novice)

I've been saying this since I first joined this thread and started commenting...

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

jeez... I was ready to upgrade to this player after doing some research but after skimming through this thread.....

it all sounds so confusing with so many options for settings and adjustments... It would seems like I'd have to spend a week testing every little option to make my 4k discs look best... and then would the same settings look good on a conventional blu ray?

and then of course I'd have to match up my TV settings as well to make PQ differences.

Am I reading too much into this or do I have to be a certified electronics specialist to understand all this stuff? (nits? really? I used to sell electronics back in the mid 90's but all the changes that have happened the past decades have truly made me a novice)

Yes, you are reading too much, making life complicated for what it shouldn't be.
Having picture adjustments is good, very. I'd rather have more than enough where true matter counts...picture quality, than not enough. In this 4K business the Panasonic HDR Optimizer is a terrific feature, one that makes people universally happy. We are on 4K HDR picture heaven, finally, everyone. The best is yet to come.

[AKORIS]

so here's a question. One thing that's so irritating about changing video settings on my 2 current players is that you have to stop the movie, make what you think will be a better setting, and then start the movie back up to see if it works or not.

With the Panasonic-- can you adjust the settings (luminance level, etc) while the movie is playing?

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

so here's a question. One thing that's so irritating about changing video settings on my 2 current players is that you have to stop the movie, make what you think will be a better setting, and then start the movie back up to see if it works or not.

With the Panasonic-- can you adjust the settings (luminance level, etc) while the movie is playing?

"One of the UB820's flagship features is the much ballyhooed HDR Optimizer, which enables the user to toggle between four HDR brightness settings - Standard, Natural Environment, Light Environment, and Bright Environment - on the fly to optimize HDR impact in both dark and light-filled viewing spaces. This is a very welcome feature, as HDR can sometimes appear muddy when certain discs are viewed on certain displays. Rather than spend a lot of time adjusting brightness and contrast levels, the HDR Optimizer allows you to sample various settings quickly and easily. The gradations are subtle yet noticeable.

Video adjustments were easy to make while watching the various movies (although the preset levels are so good, not much tinkering is necessary). While the more complex adjustment overlays take up a bit too much of the display's real estate, if you click on the individual component, the menu disappears and an adjustment slider bar pops up on the bottom of the screen so you can easily eyeball the alterations."

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[grodd]

The HDR Optimizer is right there on the remote so its easy to use.
You don't have to stop the movie or anything. Just press the button and arrow between the different 4 presets.
And if you hold down on the button you can tweak the settings even more. I don't know what I did without it.

Even watching a very dark like Solo in a bright room becomes an easy adjustment within seconds.

[LordoftheRings]

That's exactly it.

[IntelliVolume]

Originally Posted by AKORIS

so here's a question. One thing that's so irritating about changing video settings on my 2 current players is that you have to stop the movie, make what you think will be a better setting, and then start the movie back up to see if it works or not.

With the Panasonic-- can you adjust the settings (luminance level, etc) while the movie is playing?

All this complex operation rhetoric is one of the things keeping me away from the UB820, AKORIS; I don't know if all UHD disc players are like this, but it seems too daunting just to get a disc up and running correctly (and ensuring the settings are correct for your particular display).

[JohnAV]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

All this complex operation rhetoric is one of the things keeping me away from the UB820, AKORIS; I don't know if all UHD disc players are like this, but it seems too daunting just to get a disc up and running correctly (and ensuring the settings are correct for your particular display).

All players have default settings that just work. No one needs to experiment with advance settings and read numerous online forum comments to be able to use a player. Your TV doesn't run that way, why expect the player to be worse?

[danny24]

Originally Posted by IntelliVolume

All this complex operation rhetoric is one of the things keeping me away from the UB820, AKORIS; I don't know if all UHD disc players are like this, but it seems too daunting just to get a disc up and running correctly (and ensuring the settings are correct for your particular display).

The Panasonic UB900 I have detected my display. I can't imagine the UB820 being any different. You should be able to just plug in and play.

[grodd]

There is one other thing you can do and its really easy.
Go to the Setup icon on the far right.
Click the button on "Player Settings".
Then under HDMI press the button.
Press the arrow key down to the "Advanced settings"
Under advanced settings arrow down five times to
"HDR TV Type"
Then click on either
OLED
Super High Luminance LCD
Middle or High Luminance LCD
or Basic Luminance LCD and projector.

Also most of my region 2 discs work with ease aside from some German and French imports.
Just hit top menu when it doesn't play. Sometimes you don't even need to press stop.

[Mobe1969]

Does anyone know if these have the subtitle luminance control, like the UB900 has?

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Does anyone know if these have the subtitle luminance control, like the UB900 has?

The 820/824 does, I take it the 9000 would too.

[panasonicst60]

Originally Posted by hgwy407

I have a 2017 LG OLED and the UB820. Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not I should disable the LG’s version of tone mapping when using the tone mapping feature of the 820? I have only seen one other post about this and was wondering if there were other opinions? As always, thank you.

Yes diable the TV's tone mapping. The player does a better (more accurate) tone mapping when compared to lg's. The tone mapping on the LG tends to boost image brightness too much. With the Panasonic you can also customize it to your own liking. For example you can boost the shadow details while preserving everything else. As I find hdr10 tends to be on the darker side when compared to Dolby vision.

[kristoffer]

Originally Posted by DJR662

The 820/824 does, I take it the 9000 would too.

So only subtitles are dimmed in HDR? Clever.

[sapiendut]

Originally Posted by Mobe1969

Does anyone know if these have the subtitle luminance control, like the UB900 has?

Definitely. I just still don’t know how to set subtitle luminance to 50% as a default.

[King Crimson]

Got this last week. Everything the say about it and more is true. Cannot recommend this player enough! Gotta love being Region Free too.

[evoll]

Originally Posted by panasonicst60

Yes diable the TV's tone mapping. The player does a better (more accurate) tone mapping when compared to lg's. The tone mapping on the LG tends to boost image brightness too much. With the Panasonic you can also customize it to your own liking. For example you can boost the shadow details while preserving everything else. As I find hdr10 tends to be on the darker side when compared to Dolby vision.

How do you disable the TV's tone mapping? Do you just put the HDR optimizer to on?

[DJR662]

Originally Posted by kristoffer

So only subtitles are dimmed in HDR? Clever.

Yeah, and you can change the luminace yourself. Comes in handy with some (dark) movies on UHD which have too bright subtitles such as John Wick 2 (at least they are too bright to my eyes on the UK release).

[idlebrain]

Originally Posted by sapiendut

Definitely. I just still don’t know how to set subtitle luminance to 50% as a default.

Subtitle luminance and position has to adjust each time.No default setting exists.