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Old 04-27-2015, 12:00 AM   #5001
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Sorry for not immediately responding as I was in the process of answering the same question posed in a couple recent PMs.

We here in the U.S., at least on the feed I get, can't hear the chants from the stadium crowd that well. Were Arsenal fans chanting...."Boring Chelsea, Boring Chelsea" or something else?
Boring, boring Chelsea.

I will let Tob fill you in on why they chanted that.
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:01 AM   #5002
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They're called cricketers. Love me some cricket anyway, I hope some of that 4K World Cup footage surfaces online.
Howzat?
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:08 AM   #5003
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Boring, boring Chelsea.

I will let Tob fill you in on why they chanted that.
I see the Premier league is still struggling with how to deal with player concussions....much like some other leagues in the world still are. Hopefully things will change for the sake of the players.

One thing that they could do is not charge the team for a substitution while the injured player is receiving a proper neuro exam to identify concussive symtoms.
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:11 AM   #5004
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I see the Premier league is still struggling with how to deal with player concussions....much like some other leagues in the world still are. Hopefully things will change for the sake of the players.

One thing that they could do is not charge the team for a substitution while the injured player is receiving a proper neuro exam to identify concussive symtoms.
Would hold the game up too much Penton Man. Besides, I think my team have been concussed all season.
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Would hold the game up too much Penton Man. Besides, I think my team have been concussed all season.
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Old 04-27-2015, 03:48 AM   #5006
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Would hold the game up too much Penton Man.
I can just hear PeterTHX’s evil twin thinking something.
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Old 04-27-2015, 07:27 AM   #5007
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I can just hear PeterTHX’s evil twin thinking something.
Who says RePeterTHX is the evil one?
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:12 AM   #5008
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Who says RePeterTHX is the evil one?
I was expecting the devil to say something like “How can you hold up a game that moves slower than a protozoan?”
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:20 AM   #5009
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Thru hints, y'all heard it here first (exclusively) on this thread in the Blu-ray.com forum (before it was o-fficially announced) that Tomorrowland would be the first HDR graded (Dolby Vision HDR format) feature film exhibited – https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...d#post10688115

Now Carolyn (from THR) talks to the Director and Producer of the second feature film to be released in the Dolby Vision format - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...anguage-790870
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:38 PM   #5010
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So, esp. with live action motion pictures, in order to harvest the fullest potential out of production intended from the get-go as an HDR release, what elements will need to *up their game* in comparison to that of shooting for an SDR production?

Answer -
1. Lighting
2. Makeup
3. Production Design
4. Costume Design

Because….like 4K is to 2K capture, HDR is less forgiving than SDR...but, at the same time, it is capable of greater reward.

Moving on.

Despite the illustrations presented by all HDR proponents on stage at conferences illustrating in a grandiose graphic or pictorial fashion, the great dynamic range of the human visual system (10 to the 5th nits for bright sunlight down to 10 to the -4th nits for dim starlight), practically, what will colorists have to do in order to make it all work well for viewers?

Last edited by Penton-Man; 04-29-2015 at 03:52 AM. Reason: bolded some words for easier reading comprehension and added the word answer
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Old 04-29-2015, 03:59 AM   #5011
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I don’t know if it is a 2K or 4K projector, but nevertheless, the donation sure is a fine gesture by Christie….http://www.filmjournal.com/node/18401
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Old 04-29-2015, 04:19 AM   #5012
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Today’s Throwback Tuesday Post

From last December, elaborating upon the value of high dynamic range (HDR) with regards to interiors and exteriors captured in the same shot …. https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...s#post10221305

Now flash forward 4 months later, where I was reminded of that ^ past post while viewing an HDR demo at the Canon booth at the past NAB 2015 that was showing the short film ‘Trick Shot” (shot in 4K) with its interiors/exteriors through the large window while playing high stakes pool……

https://vimeo.com/124750526

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On a somewhat odd/awkward note, some of the professional cinematographers in attendance there felt that the film was extremely sexist in that it stereotyped the female character in a negative way. I don’t know, I was too busy watching the imagery.
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Old 04-29-2015, 07:17 PM   #5013
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...Despite the illustrations presented by all HDR proponents on stage at conferences illustrating in a grandiose graphic or pictorial fashion, the great dynamic range of the human visual system (10 to the 5th nits for bright sunlight down to 10 to the -4th nits for dim starlight), practically, what will colorists have to do in order to make it all work well for viewers?
^ They all (not just Company 3) can subscribe to a philosophy of less = more in regards to abrupt changes in luminance between scenes, because even though the human visual system has great dynamic range, dark/light (and vice versa) adaptation is not instantaneous. It takes the iris on the order of second(s) to adapt and the rod/cone mechanism on the order of minutes(s) to do so.

Best not *overdo it* for the sake of making HDR images really *pop* and thusly get into a situation of viewer discomfort, like that of some early 3D releases which caused eye fatigue for yet another overly aggressive practice, namely….large, rapid changes in parallax.

Something else rather important, although more the responsibility of others, will be to replicate the HDR imagery at home, as it was seen and created in the mastering suite and that will involve another factor which was discussed months ago, namely ambient or room lighting ….the level of which will turn out to be even more critical for viewing HDR than SDR content, but for which, there is no *best practice* policy, much less standardized method to be implemented at home, as we are still early in the HDR adopting curve.
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One for PeterTHX, the O’s are up 7-1, top of the 5th
at Camden Yards…and if you don’t recognize the nickname, the “O’s”, they are not a soccer team - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ks#post9666554
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:34 PM   #5015
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I knew you meant the Orioles. Do I get a gold star?
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Old 04-30-2015, 12:10 AM   #5016
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I knew you meant the Orioles. Do I get a gold star?
You are an internationally informed individual . You get a link to a 4K short film [shot with a Canon 4K (4096 x 2160) camcorder] that was shown at NAB 2015 and reminded me of how you and I hope to age in years to come, despite our both (but different) lower extremity orthopaedic injuries which have required surgery and metallic hardware….
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Old 04-30-2015, 12:35 AM   #5017
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Hah! I couldn't do that shit even when I didn't have pins and plates holding my lower left peg together. I've managed to ditch my own Zimmer frame though (my balance is way too bad for crutches) and I'm finally able to walk unaided some three-and-a-bit months after breaking it.

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One for PeterTHX, the O’s are up 7-1, top of the 5th
at Camden Yards…and if you don’t recognize the nickname, the “O’s”, they are not a soccer team - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ks#post9666554
wooooooooo go O's!



I miss Baltimore, a bit of my heart will always live there, and hopefully someday I will again. It's the only place outside my home state of Texas where I've ever felt really at home.
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I miss Baltimore, a bit of my heart will always live there, and hopefully someday I will again. It's the only place outside my home state of Texas where I've ever felt really at home.
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Throw back Thursday post from last December…
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...Additionally, I would say that in order to get ‘the full effect’ or the best effect out of Dolby Vision or any high dynamic range solution will be to light the scene in a way that would make the most out of an HDR finish…and the best way to check the lighting of a scene would be with the use of an HDR on-set monitor, of which, as of now, there is no practical product available for D.P.’s.
Flash forward 4 months from then (last December) to ‘now’ as in April, where we have one being introduced (also demoed at NAB) –
“Canon's Highly Mobile 24-Inch, 10-Bit IPS LCD Display is Ideal for On-Set and Post-Workflow Applications; Features Include 4096 x 2160 Resolution, HDR Support and 4K RAW Debayering (my bolding)
http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/about_...01e02480ecf010
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