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Old 06-04-2015, 03:34 AM   #5221
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The march towards more real color continues. I’m not in San Jose, but when available, I would like to read the SID Display Week presentation paper ‘Closing in on Rec. 2020 – how close is close enough’? - http://www.businesswire.com/news/hom...k#.VW3d1M9Viko
At 93.7% gamut coverage the prototype displays sound nice and it is even better to hear that a major company was promoting them.
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Old 06-04-2015, 03:51 PM   #5222
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Has anyone seen this at BB yet?

"But a company spokesman did say that Samsung has arranged to provide clips from the upcoming Steven Spielberg feature film “Jurassic World” for demonstration on Samsung SUHD TV sets in 500 Best Buy stores across the country until the movie appears in theaters June 12th.

According to the spokesman, the “Jurassic World” (see logo pictured above) 4K Ultra HD demo clips will include HDR and a wide color gamut (DCI-P3 standard) which will be demonstrated on connected Samsung JS9500 and JS9000 series TVs."

http://hdguru.com/industry-scrambles...-next-gen-tvs/

The article provides an overview of HDR plans for 2015.

EDIT: I just read several first hand accounts of this demo on AVS. No one was impressed. According to BB, the Jurassic World clip is streamed from Samsung servers. You would think they would have downloaded it. Samsung just shot themselves in the foot and did not do HDR any favors.

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Old 06-04-2015, 07:33 PM   #5223
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Quoting from the ^ article...“UHD Alliance members have told HD Guru that multiple HDR formats are possible for adoption, as the technology adds little to the data rate.”

That's not really news to regular Blu-ray.com Tech forum readers.
For example, someone should send this to the HD Guru for even further enlightenment…. read the last paragraph and follow the hyperlink in red.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:45 PM   #5224
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an overview of HDR
So, some may wonder. How exactly does this Dolby Vision color grading stuff work step-by-step for theatricals (movies to be viewed in Dolby Vision theaters)?

Well, for filmmakers, the post production workflow for the first Dolby Vision motion picture(s) so far works out like this… one grades the feature film in a popular color correction system (such as Resolve) while watching the movie projected with a typical DCI compliant D-Cinema projector in order to firstly produce your typical standard dynamic range master for those thousands of installed Digital projectors all over the country (world) which are not Dolby Vision.

Then, a LUT is made (by the bright folks on staff) to convert the standard dynamic range P3 color files into Dolby’s Perceptual Quantizer (EOTF) files for the HDR pass. But, after the LUT conversion, the process is far from complete. After the conversion, the colorist (while next viewing/color correcting with the aid of a Dolby Vision projector) then further tweaks the dynamic range of the film, shot-by-shot, by doing such things as building power windows around regions of interest in order to produce the final HDR theatrical look/master.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:52 PM   #5225
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Has anyone seen this at BB yet?
ray, are you going to check it out? I rarely get to BB.
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Old 06-04-2015, 07:54 PM   #5226
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UK’ers, is Mike back yet? Did he attend? - For a refresher, see last paragraph(s) below YouTube links –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post10860202
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Old 06-05-2015, 04:51 PM   #5227
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UK’ers, is Mike back yet? Did he attend? - For a refresher, see last paragraph(s) below YouTube links –
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...g#post10860202
I is, and I didn't I am 300 miles + away from London.

Ugh, my youtube channel

No I (when I have a job) change my hair colour every month.
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Old 06-05-2015, 08:57 PM   #5228
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You haven't really missed a thing either. It's been slow ever since the announcement of the specification.

On another note, it's June now only 6 months for it to release, I still think September at IFA is a bit late but the only place for a physical reveal, I would have had it all online before then there's only a couple of a hundred thousand going to see anything at IFA.

What are the chances of an HDMI 2.0a graphics card and PC monitor this side of Christmas? Anyone have any tip offs?
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:00 PM   #5229
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You haven't really missed a thing either. It's been slow ever since the announcement of the specification.

On another note, it's June now only 6 months for it to release, I still think September at IFA is a bit late but the only place for a physical reveal, I would have had it all online before then there's only a couple of a hundred thousand going to see anything at IFA.

What are the chances of an HDMI 2.0a graphics card and PC monitor this side of Christmas? Anyone have any tip offs?
Why would you need one with 2.0a
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:01 PM   #5230
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Why would you need one with 2.0a
To get a bit of the HDR goodness, have you not read that 2.0a is required for HDR?
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:21 PM   #5231
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To get a bit of the HDR goodness, have you not read that 2.0a is required for HDR?
Yeah but hdr is not for me.
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Old 06-05-2015, 09:23 PM   #5232
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Yeah but hdr is not for me.
I can only wonder why, anyway i'm off to work see you all at 7.00am.
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Old 06-06-2015, 12:30 AM   #5233
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not a movie, but the Wachowski's Netflix series, Sense8, is out now in Ultra HD.
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Old 06-06-2015, 09:32 PM   #5234
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The NHK recently showed off a laser backlit 4K LCD with 98% coverage of the Rec. 2020 color space. They say that the display has the world's widest color gamut. While I think that quantum dots are more likely to be used in consumer displays it does show what is possible.

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What are the chances of an HDMI 2.0a graphics card and PC monitor this side of Christmas? Anyone have any tip offs?
It shouldn't be hard to add HDMI 2.0a signaling to a graphics card but it might not happen due to other issues. The entire graphics card would have to support SMPTE 2084 video and support it all the way to the HDMI output. Also the computer industry might pick a different HDR system than SMPTE 2084 which wasn't designed for computer graphics.
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Old 06-07-2015, 06:30 AM   #5235
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The NHK recently showed off a laser backlit 4K LCD with 98% coverage of the Rec. 2020 color space. They say that the display has the world's widest color gamut. While I think that quantum dots are more likely to be used in consumer displays it does show what is possible.

It shouldn't be hard to add HDMI 2.0a signaling to a graphics card but it might not happen due to other issues. The entire graphics card would have to support SMPTE 2084 video and support it all the way to the HDMI output. Also the computer industry might pick a different HDR system than SMPTE 2084 which wasn't designed for computer graphics.
Thanks for that, if push comes to shove I am just going to get the Geforce 960 4Gb for the HEVC decoding.
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Old 06-07-2015, 09:41 AM   #5236
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Thanks for that, if push comes to shove I am just going to get the Geforce 960 4Gb for the HEVC decoding.
I already did.
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Old 06-07-2015, 11:38 AM   #5237
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I already did.
I'm hoping that between now and Christmas a higher performance card comes out, from what I have read the 960 despite being good is a mainstream card which makes me think it isn't up to spec.

An Ultra HD monitor with HDR that isn't the size of a TV wouldn't go a miss either, no more than 28" it must be 10 bit as well. I was looking at one last night I keep forgetting what put me off it though once I stoped looking at it. I think it was the price and that its only available in Australia.

Is there any final word on what HEVC profile Ultra HD Blu-ray will use yet? The 960 is only compatible with profile 1 I asked Nvidia, with any luck new drivers/firmware/software will sort that out. If only it could do HDR.
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Old 06-07-2015, 12:29 PM   #5238
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I want to get a GeForce 960 or better, but I'm sitting pretty with dual 760s right now. Probably next generation I'll upgrade.
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The 980ti is in my sights personally
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The 980ti is in my sights personally
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