4K Movies Releases

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Ohhh it must have hurt typing soccer in the search bar to come up with that image.

As long as it's followed by the word "sucks" it's all good.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

As long as it's followed by the word "sucks" it's all good.

Tut tut

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Some consider this to be the real problem - http://english.chosun.com/site/data/...012701137.html

Meaning, for years, shareholders have been begging for Sony Corp. to get out of the consumer TV manufacturing business because they just can’t compete with Korea, or now China.

^ the first step for Board members in finally letting go of the notion that consumer TVs are part of Sony’s DNA? >

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/...A150AK20140206

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

As long as it's followed by the word "sucks" it's all good.

Peter, when are you going to come out of the soccer closet and admit that you’re already saving up money for tickets to the World Cup this year in Brazil?

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Peter, when are you going to come out of the soccer closet and admit that you’re already saving up money for tickets to the World Cup this year in Brazil?

AND..... League cup final tickets to watch Sunderland

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Dubstar

sorry if this has been mentioned before, Sony's 'Monuments Men' DCP is 4K.

If you're truly sorry, then you’re forgiven....a few pages back, the following was posted before most theaters even got the data on their servers….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...ts#post8738273

Dub, if you go see TMM at the cinema, you can try this visual challenge on for size…..https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...el#post8762502

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

Thanks for the info! How does your standard 4K projector at the theater fare in terms of nits?

SMPTE luminance standard for digital cinema is about 14 foot Lamberts (see http://standards.smpte.org/content/9...2011/SEC1.refs ), which works out to be a lowly 48 nits (rounded).

[Penton-Man]

^
P.S.
Among people not in the display business, ‘nits’ are also known as “cootie eggs”....my niece so informs me.

[singhcr]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

SMPTE luminance standard for digital cinema is about 14 foot Lamberts (see http://standards.smpte.org/content/9...2011/SEC1.refs ), which works out to be a lowly 48 nits (rounded).

That would explain why my typical theater outing is so much less engrossing than watching the same movie on my Panasonic plasma TV.

[Penton-Man]

From yesterday...

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Context - https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post8656646

First horse out of the gate for Dolby Vision is Chicago - http://www.televisual.com/news-detai..._nid-3864.html

Dolby hitting yet another press outlet with a statement…."While we’ll have to wait for Dolby Vision TVs and content to get the full Dolby Vision experience at home, we were able to use the technology to dramatically improve what Chicago looks like on today’s TVs and today’s Blu-ray Discs,” Dolby said in a statement provided to The Hollywood Reporter”….
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...s-dolby-677044

On that note, in a couple weeks I’ll be attending a tech retreat in the dez (this particular one being a yearly pilgrimage for me….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...pa#post8094127 , which is arguably one of the best (if not thee best) in the U.S., to which Dolby is supplying several speakers on several topics ranging from fundamental reasons for Dolby Vision to….possible recommendations to B.T.2020.

I’m looking forward to it. I kinda wish the researchers from Rennes (Technicolor) were also presenting just to get a different viewpoint on their vision of HDR, although I believe Dolby is miles ahead of everyone else with their work in this area….and they’ve got the peer-reviewed published papers to prove it. I see Technicolor’s value mostly being as a contributing factor to making HDR and other range extensions happen with HEVC, which is a noble pursuit.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by singhcr

That would explain why my typical theater outing is so much less engrossing than watching the same movie on my Panasonic plasma TV.

In the real world, cinemas are actually even more challenged than that for 2 reasons.
1. Because the 14 foot Lambert (+/-3) standard, is what they’re supposed to be with a recent calibration.
2. That 14-ish figure is for screen center, it drops to 9fL or 31 nits (cootie eggs) as being acceptable for the sides (SMPTE 431-1-2006).

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...On that note, in a couple weeks I’ll be attending a tech retreat in the dez (this particular one being a yearly pilgrimage for me….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...pa#post8094127 , which is arguably one of the best (if not thee best) in the U.S., to which Dolby is supplying several speakers on several topics ranging from fundamental reasons for Dolby Vision to….possible recommendations to B.T.2020.

With Watkinson (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post8549600 )
and Poynton (https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...on#post3103648)

opening the tech retreat with one dem humdinger courses on .... ‘PHYSICS, PSYCHOPHYSICS, AND VISION FOR ADVANCED MOTION IMAGING’.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

As long as it's followed by the word "sucks" it's all good.

Reminder for PeterTHX….these times are Eastern - http://worldsoccertalk.com/premier-league-tv-schedule/

Ergo, tomorrow’s Liverpool vs. Arsenal match starts at 4:45 A.M, our time! so either get your butt out of bed early or set your DVR accordingly.

"sucks"

[Geoff D]

Pah. Palace vs West Brom is the proper crunch match of the day.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Reminder for PeterTHX….these times are Eastern - http://worldsoccertalk.com/premier-league-tv-schedule/

Ergo, tomorrow’s Liverpool vs. Arsenal match starts at 4:45 A.M, our time! so either get your butt out of bed early or set your DVR accordingly.

"sucks"

good luck Penton Man.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Pah. Palace vs West Brom is the proper crunch match of the day.

Nah, SAFC versus Steve Bruce!

[pentatonic]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

From yesterday...

Dolby hitting yet another press outlet with a statement…."While we’ll have to wait for Dolby Vision TVs and content to get the full Dolby Vision experience at home, we were able to use the technology to dramatically improve what Chicago looks like on today’s TVs and today’s Blu-ray Discs,” Dolby said in a statement provided to The Hollywood Reporter”….
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/beh...s-dolby-677044

On that note, in a couple weeks I’ll be attending a tech retreat in the dez (this particular one being a yearly pilgrimage for me….https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...pa#post8094127 , which is arguably one of the best (if not thee best) in the U.S., to which Dolby is supplying several speakers on several topics ranging from fundamental reasons for Dolby Vision to….possible recommendations to B.T.2020.

I’m looking forward to it. I kinda wish the researchers from Rennes (Technicolor) were also presenting just to get a different viewpoint on their vision of HDR, although I believe Dolby is miles ahead of everyone else with their work in this area….and they’ve got the peer-reviewed published papers to prove it. I see Technicolor’s value mostly being as a contributing factor to making HDR and other range extensions happen with HEVC, which is a noble pursuit.

Wow, Dolby, Technicolor and Sony each planning their own version. Somehow I see Dolby getting the 4K BD and TV market but wouldn't having a clear "winning" version help the introduction of 4K BDs or are they so determined to make it a stream only thing, 'cause that's all you read. I might have come off as a streaming fan, though I never did stream anything, but I'm for what's best and seemingly BD should be from what is said here. Or would those other options just require a software update?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

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Weird (but I guess it’s another indication of how my mind works with word associations…https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...nd#post8729263 ) as every time you (being a former RED follower) check into this thread, I’m now compelled to briefly visit the RED forum just to see what’s cooking over there. Ergo, talk about throwing out a bone with a sliver of meat on it to a pack of starving creatures – “REDRAY is not dead.....”…..http://www.reduser.net/forum/showthr...=1#post1322268

Wendell, you’ve got to alert Mark H. to that ^.

My question is what will become available first to anyone who is interested in partaking?….the Redray or, a worthwhile filmmaking course covering career advice topics typically not presented in film school - https://www.facebook.com/Advancedfilmmaking

Because, after all, at their basic core, aren’t the Red Users aspiring filmmakers first?

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

good luck Penton Man.

I’ll be viewing later this evening….at least the first half.

To the international stage, for Peter's sake, I don’t see the numbers for the 2nd and 3rd rounds published yet, but as of the first round of ticket sales, Switzerland…. http://qz.com/143776/the-country-tha...s-switzerland/

“sucks”

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by pentatonic

Wow, Dolby, Technicolor and Sony each planning their own version. Somehow I see Dolby getting the 4K BD and TV market but wouldn't having a clear "winning" version help the introduction of 4K BDs or are they so determined to make it a stream only thing, 'cause that's all you read. I might have come off as a streaming fan, though I never did stream anything, but I'm for what's best and seemingly BD should be from what is said here. Or would those other options just require a software update?

Any options achieving equivalent picture quality level to that of full (consumer) Dolby Vision would probably require 10 bit panels from TV manufacturers such as the Vizio reference which was shown at the last CES…..although I wouldn’t be surprised if at a future CES if some marketer types would enjoy advertising a new model TV based on a special sauced version of 8 bit B.T.709 as ‘HDR’, if they could.

As in the patent description which I linked previously for basic illustrative purposes, Dolby is using a dual layer codec tech consisting of an enhancement layer and a base layer so that content distributors (be it for Blu-ray, OTT streaming or even broadcast) could adopt Dolby Vision for their deliverables while retaining backward compatibility to legacy devices.