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[moviflicilm]

Originally Posted by billy pilgrim

They are both auteurs, however, for me, Todd Solondz is one of very few filmmakers who has the ability to love his characters for all their flaws while unsparingly detailing the helplessness and frustration in their consistently futile attempts to achieve any real change in their unhappy lives. I would say that for a lot of people, Solondz's work reflects a realistic depiction of the life of the outsider in our society. His characters are not so much good and bad as they are just sad people trying to find love and acceptance in this ridiculous world. I think a lot of people may find him off putting because he may reflect a bit too accurately the ugliness, ignorance, and desperation that surrounds and affects us all.

Not trying to be overly dramatic, however IMHO Solondz is vastly underappreciated and rarely gets any love. I would rank him in the top ten of writer/director/auteurs, although I might be in the minority.

Huge fan of this gentleman's work. I wish more of his films were available on Blu Ray.

I'm hoping Criterion will get the licensing to release Welcome to the Dollhouse and Happiness. Happiness distributor is Lionsgate, who seemed very reluctant to release the title on Blu-Ray out of fear for the controversial Dylan Baker subplot. Criterion releasing the film in the light of the #metoo movement will sparked a few think pieces condemning Criterion for bothering with this film, they secretly endorsed pedophilia. It's bizarre Criterion got the rights to the spiritual sequel to Happiness(Life During Wartime) but don't have the rights to one of the 1990's indie classics.

[mja345]

Originally Posted by billy pilgrim

They are both auteurs, however, for me, Todd Solondz is one of very few filmmakers who has the ability to love his characters for all their flaws while unsparingly detailing the helplessness and frustration in their consistently futile attempts to achieve any real change in their unhappy lives. I would say that for a lot of people, Solondz's work reflects a realistic depiction of the life of the outsider in our society. His characters are not so much good and bad as they are just sad people trying to find love and acceptance in this ridiculous world. I think a lot of people may find him off putting because he may reflect a bit too accurately the ugliness, ignorance, and desperation that surrounds and affects us all.

Not trying to be overly dramatic, however IMHO Solondz is vastly underappreciated and rarely gets any love. I would rank him in the top ten of writer/director/auteurs, although I might be in the minority.

Huge fan of this gentleman's work. I wish more of his films were available on Blu Ray.

"Happiness" is a masterpiece and I find it deeply hilarious at times.

[Rich Pure Doom]

The constant Wes Anderson bashing has become more tiresome than people asking when Grand Budapest is coming out. Fact.

[joy-division]

Originally Posted by Marshall Crist

^This was annoying at first but utterly won me over with its insight by the end. I'm sure you've all seen this:

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-li...r/n42349?snl=1

not available to me

[joy-division]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

For reals.

I've had people tell me they don't like B&W films (as if it was an entire genre unto itself).

same goes for films with subtitles. It's as if their brain is so small that they can't take it all in

Only watch it if it's dubbed!

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by moviflicilm

I thought those Brooklyn dweebs like both filmmakers? This list for reference.

Oh, they do. No need to remind me. How anyone could defend the excess of "I'm the director and I need the actresses to lapdance me and I'll give them a 30 minute scene of talking that goes nowhere and will let them beat up Kurt Russell" 'Deathproof is beyond me.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by joy-division

same goes for films with subtitles. It's as if their brain is so small that they can't take it all in

Only watch it if it's dubbed!

True. But i've been able to convert some good ol' boys down South with Stephen Show and Park Chan-wook films.

Believe it or not it's not a lost cause. That's bull crap lazy producers in Hollywood bring up as fake statistics.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

The constant Wes Anderson bashing has become more tiresome than people asking when Grand Budapest is coming out. Fact.

I've always found Anderson and Tarantino fans curious people and kind of the same ilk (and unable to take any criticism).

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by moviflicilm

People will have an aversion to anything before the time of birth. A teenager cousin of mine told me movies from the 90's were old when we were chatting at a Christmas party. Many viewers are so used to sugar-loaded CGI that it's sad many can't appreciate the beauty of quality B&W cinematography.

Yeah. I can see that. Luckily I got to hang out with people from other eras who turned me on the art of their day and provided context for such.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

The constant Wes Anderson bashing has become more tiresome than people asking when Grand Budapest is coming out. Fact.

I always find this part of posts cute.

[Hoke Moseley]

Originally Posted by Rich Pure Doom

The constant Wes Anderson bashing has become more tiresome than people asking when Grand Budapest is coming out. Fact.

I find it funny how the people that hate him the most are also the people that talk about him the most.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

I find it funny how the people that hate him the most are also the people that talk about him the most.

Who hates him? Seen a few posters talking about issues with his approach. Haven't seen anyone straight bashing the dude though. Or in your words, "hate him".

I do see some over reaction from some fans though...

[20th Century Boy]

My serious question still stands though: has CC Tealed his blu-ray releases?

[Hoke Moseley]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

Who hates him? Seen a few posters talking about issues with his approach. Haven't seen anyone straight bashing the dude though. Or in your words, "hate him".

I do see some over reaction from some fans though...

Okay, the people that have problems with his films are the ones that seem to discuss him the most. While his fans are the "annoying" ones.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

Okay, the people that have problems with his films are the ones that seem to discuss him the most. While his fans are the "annoying" ones.

I kinda like the guy. Just not always , all the time. He's not above criticism. I can't speak for anyone, but he's not by any means bad. He just gets tiresome sometimes.

I personally find the blind defense of him and Tarantino annoying though. Yes.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by moviflicilm

I thought those Brooklyn dweebs like both filmmakers? This list for reference.

I'm not gonna lie: at least 15 of my favorite films are on that list. And at least 10 films I loathe are also there. I have no idea what that says about my taste in film.

[Hoke Moseley]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

I kinda like the guy. Just not always , all the time. He's not above criticism. I can't speak for anyone, but he's not by any means bad. He just gets tiresome sometimes.

I personally find the blind defense of him and Tarantino annoying though. Yes.

I think both Wes and Tarantino are filmmakers that a lot of people (including myself) kind of of grow out of as they get older. I mean, I still like both quite a bit... but they're definitely guys that are easy to love when you're young and just getting into film... and that love fades over time.

I just feel like there's the same discussion on here about the merits of one of (or both of) them as filmmakers every few weeks.

[20th Century Boy]

Originally Posted by Hoke Moseley

I think both Wes and Tarantino are filmmakers that a lot of people (including myself) kind of of grow out of as they get older. I mean, I still like both quite a bit... but they're definitely guys that are easy to love when you're young and just getting into film... and that love fades over time.

I just feel like there's the same discussion on here about the merits of one of (or both of) them as filmmakers every few weeks.

I see your point and can see the validity of it. I suppose I can also see how their detractors may discuss them too much. But, to be fair, they are very active and any one striking their own path in the industry has to deal with their fan boys in both the internet and press.

Now that can get VERY tiresome.

I'm also not sure how highly I'd rate filmmakers that can be "grown out of". I'm no SW fan, but people who grow into adults still love Star Wars. Lasting power is something worth considering in this pantheon. Kurosawa, Wilder, Capra, Hitchcock and a host of other directors have it.

[Hoke Moseley]

Originally Posted by 20th Century Boy

I see your point and can see the validity of it. I suppose I can also see how their detractors may discuss them too much. But, to be fair, they are very active and any one striking their own path in the industry has to deal with their fan boys in both the internet and press.

Now that can get VERY tiresome.

I'm also not sure how highly I'd rate filmmakers that can be "grown out of". I'm no SW fan, but people who grow into adults still love Star Wars. Lasting power is something worth considering in this pantheon. Kurosawa, Wilder, Capra, Hitchcock and a host of other directors have it.

I meant "grow out of" more along the lines of someone saying "I thought Reservoir Dogs was a total masterpiece when I was 15, now I'm 25 and and think it's an 8/10 tops."

No one really talks like that, but you get my point.

[Scottie]

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