The Criterion Collection

[StarDestroyer52]

Even though I don't think Kane is in the top 10 all time list, I will grab that one on 4K. I have the 4K TV, so I just need to get the 4K player, which will probably have to wait until around the Holidays. Probably will grab A Hard Days Night when Criterion releases that.

[Scottie]

This is excellent news. It was long overdue.

While I will not be purchasing these films as I moved exclusively to streaming a couple of months ago, I hope Criterion will be providing upgrades for these titles on iTunes.

I assume these 4K releases will have a $49.99 disc MSRP.

[StarDestroyer52]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

You could pretty much say that for every single forum thread on this site.

What? You're telling me, people exaggerate just a little on these forums?

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by regeyer

This is all interesting and exciting. But we are missing two important pieces of information. First, the price. And two, since they're including the Blu-Ray with the UHD, does that mean there will not be a Blu-Ray only option? We saw how well that worked when they tried it with DVD.

Now, if the Blu-Ray/UHD sells for what the Blu-Ray sells for now there will be no problems. But if the combo sells for more you're going to have a large group of unhappy people, just like they did when they made the DVD/Blu-Ray combo, which was subsequently withdrawn.

Yeah, but it’s an entirely different situation, where DVD was servicing a different institutional niche than BDs and it backfired. UHD is basically in the same consumer tier as BD. And it means they don’t have two produce THREE separate packages, which they desperately want to avoid as it’s most of their cost.

[StopSnitchinStopLyin]

Originally Posted by Snicket

Also this same account claims to have posted pics a year ago of “Criterion’s first UHD box set” but had to take it down because criterion requested it.

Originally Posted by tama

And now claims WB told him to take down the Citizen Kane post 😆

Originally Posted by frakking toaster

Probably saw that Scream had DOTDs post removed for Halloween 4k and is trying to make up his own controversy since he’s a complete fraud.

Originally Posted by Gacivory

Yep, because now he has more people talking about him. Manufactured press.

Originally Posted by frakking toaster

The “real info” he has is just whatever he read on here or Reddit.

Geek Scooped Citizen Kane 4K

hold this colossal L bozos

[Geoff D]

On the off chance that any of this waffle ever reaches Criterion's ears, I just wanna say that YOU CAN'T HALF-ARSE THE COMPRESSION ON THESE UHDS LIKE YOU DO ON BLU-RAY. 4K HDR is something that can fall apart awfully quickly if the encoding isn't on point, and the "meh, it's good enough" attitude you have for BD isn't going to be good enough for UHD.

[styrofoamboats]

Originally Posted by jkoffman

This wasn't a re-seal though. It had the standard plastic wrap and the blue sticker on front noting the bonus disc even. Appears to be an error on the manufacturing/packaging end.

Somebody had this exact same problem with this release on reddit recently. Must be some kind of mistake at the plant is packaging these?

[Shampooed]

Originally Posted by lilboyblu

Hate to say you’re wrong, but “You’re wrong.” Once you get a quality 4K setup and watch a good 4K disc, you’ll understand the hype.

So your assumption is that there will never be 4K streaming?

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by DimitriL

Yeah, but it’s an entirely different situation, where DVD was servicing a different institutional niche than BDs and it backfired. UHD is basically in the same consumer tier as BD. And it means they don’t have two produce THREE separate packages, which they desperately want to avoid as it’s most of their cost.

Yes, there are differences, but the bottom line is that people only interested in Blu-Ray may be unwilling to pay extra for something they can't use. That's exactly what happened last time with the DVD/Blu-Ray combo's

[Irongod2112]

Originally Posted by dvining

So...still no word on a new November timed box set?

Maybe tomorrow.

[asmodeux21]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

On the off chance that any of this waffle ever reaches Criterion's ears, I just wanna say that YOU CAN'T HALF-ARSE THE COMPRESSION ON THESE UHDS LIKE YOU DO ON BLU-RAY. 4K HDR is something that can fall apart awfully quickly if the encoding isn't on point, and the "meh, it's good enough" attitude you have for BD isn't going to be good enough for UHD.

Hopefully, Fidelity in Motion( and our hero David M.) or someone/compression service who is competent is involved in all of the 4k UHD Criterion titles. I won't buy Criterion titles that fall prey to lego compression.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by StarDestroyer52

What? You're telling me, people exaggerate just a little on these forums?

I would say everybody except you and I.

As for the 4K announcements thank the gods they are finally out and now all the will they or won't they discussions can slowly slink out the side door as only they can and do slink.

I love 4K myself, but not at the expense of the rest of my collection. These first titles don't scream MUST HAVE to me, but KANE and HARD DAY'S have some appeal and may find their way in, depending on the price (which I'm imagining will be high?). I saw THE RED SHOES once in IB Technicolor 35mm under optimum theatrical conditions and still didn't love it as much as I thought I would, but damn if visions of that blossoming color in 4K at home don't kick start my imagination. The rest of the announced titles are all fine on Blu. YMMV.

[postmodel]

Regarding pricing..considering Vinegar Syndrome’s Blu-rays have a similar MSRP of $40 and their most recent UHD at $55, I don’t see an MSRP of $55/$60 for Criterion 4K to be too out of line. I just hope the final product delivers.

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by regeyer

Yes, there are differences, but the bottom line is that people only interested in Blu-Ray may be unwilling to pay extra for something they can't use. That's exactly what happened last time with the DVD/Blu-Ray combo's

But the difference is that it was institutions like schools and libraries and such that had no interest whatsoever in future-proofing that pushed the DVD decision. They were NEVER going to want the BD. It’s a completely different situation than your average consumer who will have that 4k disc ready if and when they jump - especially if they keep the price increase relatively reasonable. And that’s more likely with a combo pack. It’s all about packaging.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by DimitriL

But the difference is that it was institutions like schools and libraries and such that had no interest whatsoever in future-proofing that pushed the DVD decision. They were NEVER going to want the BD. It’s a completely different situation than your average consumer who will have that 4k disc ready if and when they jump - especially if they keep the price increase relatively reasonable.

That's partly true. But there are also a lot of consumers who won't just follow along. My parents, for example. I bought them a Blu-Ray player and some Blu-Rays, but they still buy DVDs.

[Thieves Dont]

Originally Posted by Geoff D

On the off chance that any of this waffle ever reaches Criterion's ears, I just wanna say that YOU CAN'T HALF-ARSE THE COMPRESSION ON THESE UHDS LIKE YOU DO ON BLU-RAY. 4K HDR is something that can fall apart awfully quickly if the encoding isn't on point, and the "meh, it's good enough" attitude you have for BD isn't going to be good enough for UHD.

Thank you for saying this much better than I could have, haha. My biggest concern to be honest.

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by regeyer

That's partly true. But there are also a lot of consumers who won't just follow along. My parents, for example. I bought them a Blu-Ray player and some Blu-Rays, but they still buy DVDs.

I mean, sure. But that’s also why they’re going to keep selling DVDs. If Criterion didn’t understand how the SD/HD audience segments, they certainly do now.

[A Tortured Duckling]

Originally Posted by The Great Owl

I have a $1,000 55" Sony Bravia 4K set with HDR capabilities, Dolby Vision capabilities, and amazing black levels, along with a Sony 4K player and a nice Sony sound bar/subwoofer.

4K UHD is pretty amazing, I'll say that.

Still, it's not like, "Yay! I can finally enjoy this movie now!"

Standard Blu-rays and high definition still hit the sweet spot for me. 4K is just icing on the cake.

Yeah. I don't consider a $1500 55" TV to be budget / entry level. It'd be a different story if it were 85" at the same price

[Creasy47]

Great news, I figured it was only a matter of time. I'll probably pick up a few of those once they finally release. Can't wait to see what else gets the 4K treatment in the months and years to come from them.

[The Great Owl]

Oh, and if we get the giant clunky cardboard box Dual Format packages for each 4K/BD release like Criterion did a few years ago for BD/DVD, then I'm out.

My storage space for my collection is reaching the endgame.