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italy12 · 11-08-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt

Sorry if this has been covered before...

Does anyone know how Criterion decides which catalog titles to release in blu? Obviously it depends on their rights, but is it also based on sales? Something else? I would love to see more Kurosawa titles, as well titles like The Bicycle Thieves on blu.

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it depends on the rights they secure when they make a deal with the studio pertaining to a particular movie...DVD rights or BD rights may be seperate (maybe?)

I believe this was the case with the recent releases of films like Dillinger is Dead and Night Train to Munich, etc.

italy12 · 11-08-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx

This does not directly answer your question about DVD to blu-ray upgrades, but I think you've already answered your own question. I'm sure it depends on a lot of factors... i.e. licensing rights, sales data, titles that would benefit from the upgrade, available sources, etc. Plus, Criterion still has to release new films into the collection while trying to please the blu-ray supporters and releasing older DVD or laserdisc titles onto the new format.

From Criterion's website...

CC

Of course this guy beats me to the punch.

blkhrt · 11-08-2010, 01:38 PM

Thanks for the quick responses! That's sort of what I was guessing, but just curious. I was watching Vampyr last night and thinking how great it would be in blu...which got me thinking about how great Passion of Joan of Arc would be in blu...

Beta Man · 11-08-2010, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt

which got me thinking about how great Passion of Joan of Arc would be in blu...

Have you seen "Vivre Sa Vie" on Blu-ray? The clip of "Passion of Joan of Arc" will really wet your proverbial whistle for a Blu-ray release.......

ccfixx · 11-08-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blkhrt

Passion of Joan of Arc would be in blu...

This title is rumored to be on blu-ray from Criterion at some point.

CC

ccfixx · 11-08-2010, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by italy12

I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it depends on the rights they secure when they make a deal with the studio pertaining to a particular movie...DVD rights or BD rights may be separate (maybe?)

I believe this was the case with the recent releases of films like Dillinger is Dead and Night Train to Munich, etc.

This is correct, as well. Another recent DVD-only release was the "3 Silent Classics By Josef Von Sternberg," which was licensed from Paramount before blu-ray was a deciding factor for Criterion. So, that gives you an idea of how long Criterion was sitting on it before finally being able to find the time to release it. Criterion would've had to gone back to Paramount and re-negotiate their contract if they wanted to release it on blu-ray.

CC

blkhrt · 11-08-2010, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

Have you seen "Vivre Sa Vie" on Blu-ray? The clip of "Passion of Joan of Arc" will really wet your proverbial whistle for a Blu-ray release.......

No I haven't. Thanks for the tip, I will definitely check it out.

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Originally Posted by ccfixx

This title is been rumored to be on blu-ray from Criterion at some point.

CC

I bet they would do a great job with the soundtrack (really wish I could have gone to one of the showings with the live musicians), and the print looks great on DVD, so I imagine the blu would look stellar. Glad to hear this is in the rumor mills.

ccfixx · 11-08-2010, 02:17 PM

According to The Criterion Cast...

Five More MGM Films Likely To Find A Home In The Criterion Collection.

- The French Lieutenant's Woman
- King Of Hearts
- La Cage Aux Follies
- My Beautiful Laundrette
- How I Won The War

This is all speculation on their part, of course.

CC

Arkadin · 11-08-2010, 03:02 PM

those are, of course, some fine movies, but wow, I can name 5 MGM titles in 5 seconds that would be better choices--

Moby Dick (John Huston)
West Side Story (Robert Wise)
The Manchurian Candidate (John Frankenheimer)
Kiss Me Deadly (Robert Aldrich)
The Defiant Ones (Stanley Kramer)

ShellOilJunior · 11-08-2010, 03:21 PM

Moby Dick was not part of the MGM deal (at least for 2009-2010).

From CF:

Directors and films NOT part of the late-2009/early-2010 deal (but perhaps part of a future deal?)
Allen
Almodóvar
Altman
Bergman
Boetticher
The Goldwyn Library
Lynch
Peckinpah
Rudolph
Truffaut
Wilder

Ball of Fire
The Best Years of Our LIves
Boxcar Bertha
The Brood
Equus
Hair
It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World
Judgment at Nuremberg
The Landlord
Last Tango in Paris
Moby Dick
The Offence
Oleanna
Pauline at the Beach
The Phantom Tollbooth
Santa Sangre
Sayonora
Scanners
Sid and Nancy
They Shoot Horses, Don't They?
The Train
200 Motels
Vera Cruz
Woman in the Window
Wuthering Heights
Zulu

kndy · 11-08-2010, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Moby Dick was not part of the MGM deal (at least for 2009-2010).

Sid and Nancy

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Now this would be a great Criterion re-release since the DVD version is just too expensive since its OOP. When it comes to the releases that some of you mentioned, I just hope there are a good number of special features they can find.

"Paths of Glory", they really went out and did the research to find that old '70s TV interview with Douglas and also that short news footage on the original soldiers. That was very thorough research in trying to find those and getting the rights to them.

biglou114 · 11-08-2010, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ccfixx

According to The Criterion Cast...

Five More MGM Films Likely To Find A Home In The Criterion Collection.

- How I Won The War

This is all speculation on their part, of course.

CC

If Criterion were to pick up a Lester film, I would've expected that it would be The Knack

italy12 · 11-08-2010, 03:52 PM

Ok, so I'm being called a troll on the slipcover thread. Great. Now my life is ruined.

JediFonger · 11-08-2010, 04:13 PM

just got 7Sam!!!!!! w00T H00!!!! is the booklet the same as the 3disc DVD set i already have?

ccfixx · 11-08-2010, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger

just got 7Sam!!!!!! w00T H00!!!! is the booklet the same as the 3disc DVD set i already have?

Yes, it is... just smaller.

CC

Arkitect76 · 11-08-2010, 04:33 PM

I just saw The Thin Red Line.....man, is this movie powerful!!!...not too much bombs and explosions like M. Bay....but wow, now i understand CC's description of this movie....glad I was able to get it during the current sale....GREAT MOVIE!!!

Arkadin · 11-08-2010, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Moby Dick was not part of the MGM deal (at least for 2009-2010).

I see.
well that list you included certainly contains a lot of the best stuff.
It would take me a while to go through and find 5 new titles that would be available.
maybe the other stuff will be available one day.

ShellOilJunior · 11-08-2010, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by italy12

Ok, so I'm being called a troll on the slipcover thread. Great. Now my life is ruined.

You're doing them a favor. Cheers!

italy12 · 11-08-2010, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

You're doing them a favor. Cheers!

Dude, they are ridiculous. I'm getting a$$-raped by the whole lot of them. Of course I'm having a blast, though.

I am extremely bored at work today.

italy12 · 11-08-2010, 06:14 PM

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You're doing them a favor. Cheers!

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11-08-2010, 01:38 PM	#18903
blkhrt Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2010 Location:North Carolina 4K collection:9 Blu-ray collection:1118 Trading Score:30	Thanks for the quick responses! That's sort of what I was guessing, but just curious. I was watching Vampyr last night and thinking how great it would be in blu...which got me thinking about how great Passion of Joan of Arc would be in blu...

11-08-2010, 02:17 PM	#18908
ccfixx Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Rhode Island Blu-ray collection:97 DVD collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:19	According to The Criterion Cast... Five More MGM Films Likely To Find A Home In The Criterion Collection. - The French Lieutenant's Woman - King Of Hearts - La Cage Aux Follies - My Beautiful Laundrette - How I Won The War This is all speculation on their part, of course. CC

11-08-2010, 03:02 PM	#18909
Arkadin Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2007 Location:...somewhere in Sweden Blu-ray collection:- Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:9	those are, of course, some fine movies, but wow, I can name 5 MGM titles in 5 seconds that would be better choices-- Moby Dick (John Huston) West Side Story (Robert Wise) The Manchurian Candidate (John Frankenheimer) Kiss Me Deadly (Robert Aldrich) The Defiant Ones (Stanley Kramer)

11-08-2010, 03:21 PM	#18910
ShellOilJunior Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Mar 2009 Location:USA Blu-ray reviews:3 Trading Score:10	Moby Dick was not part of the MGM deal (at least for 2009-2010). From CF: Directors and films NOT part of the late-2009/early-2010 deal (but perhaps part of a future deal?) Allen Almodóvar Altman Bergman Boetticher The Goldwyn Library Lynch Peckinpah Rudolph Truffaut Wilder Ball of Fire The Best Years of Our LIves Boxcar Bertha The Brood Equus Hair It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World Judgment at Nuremberg The Landlord Last Tango in Paris Moby Dick The Offence Oleanna Pauline at the Beach The Phantom Tollbooth Santa Sangre Sayonora Scanners Sid and Nancy They Shoot Horses, Don't They? The Train 200 Motels Vera Cruz Woman in the Window Wuthering Heights Zulu

11-08-2010, 03:52 PM	#18913
italy12 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:1405 Blu-ray collection:5040 DVD collection:5 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:8	Ok, so I'm being called a troll on the slipcover thread. Great. Now my life is ruined.

11-08-2010, 04:13 PM	#18914
JediFonger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:1350 DVD collection:144 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:47	just got 7Sam!!!!!! w00T H00!!!! is the booklet the same as the 3disc DVD set i already have?

11-08-2010, 04:33 PM	#18916
Arkitect76 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2008 Location:New York City Blu-Ray Steelbooks™: (75) 4K collection:129 Blu-ray collection:814 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:2 Trading Score:145	I just saw The Thin Red Line.....man, is this movie powerful!!!...not too much bombs and explosions like M. Bay....but wow, now i understand CC's description of this movie....glad I was able to get it during the current sale....GREAT MOVIE!!!

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