The Criterion Collection

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Nice opinion there. I think the same can be said about 3 Sci-fi films. Kind of gets old after a while.

Your answer is always the same...... "oh...you don't think Godard walks on water????? Everything you enjoy is mindless crap" (feel free to use that as your own)

[silentblu]

Originally Posted by jacobsever

Speaking of hip...
I'd much rather see Anderson films as a part of the Criterion Collection versus, let's say, Napoleon Dynomite or Juno or one of those "really good movies with awesome soundtracks!" so many teenagers adore.

Napoleon Dynamite does not belong in the same sentence as Juno. One is funny, Napoleon Dynamite. The other terrible, Juno.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Sir, I said no such thing. How did you think I thought you were the type to go on IMDB to look up movie titles and act like you watched them. I would never.

I can give a quick review for each if you'd like, although the format may get screwy when I cut-n-paste

[rkish]

Originally Posted by s00perd00per

If you don't order a lot then sure. But, considering Amazon's prices are lower and the reliability of their 2 day shipping, i'd say it's much better than B&N. I think even Borders is better than B&N, with their monthly coupons that are great to use on Kino and Criterion titles plus their Borders Bucks rewards, which allowed me to grab Sherlock Jr. for $9.36.

Except that Borders selection varies from store to store. I have (2) stores under 45 minutes from where I live and both their selections are CRAP!

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Your answer is always the same...... "oh...you don't think Godard walks on water????? Everything you enjoy is mindless crap" (feel free to use that as your own)

When did I say Godard was a Christian story to put fear in people's heads?

Hey, what's the difference between I don't care for Wes Anderon films and I don't care for Godard? weird. But I don't care. You popular snatchers can have Godard and throw him in the trash. But you leave me Dennis Hopper damn it!

[Beta Man]

I like some of Godard's films, and don't care for others, and I like some Anderson's films, and don't care for others...... somehow you've turned that into "I hate Godard"

Also, your skills at deflection are commendable.......

EDIT:

Is it o.k. if I still enjoy Dennis Hopper in private? I'll lock my doors, and swear I won't tell people.....

[also]

What gets under my skin, and why I've gone to the trouble to ignore exactly one poster on this whole site is the notion of being told over and over why other people like things.

I see only one voice in this thread trying so hard to be "hip".

[pro-bassoonist]

Like it or not, Kurosawa's films are a lot more straightforward and easier to digest than Godard's - which is why they (and especially Seven Samurai) are often the easiest way for many younger viewers to transition to "foreign cinema".

On a slightly different note, I'd rather see Criterion expand in a different direction when it comes to American cinema - the BBS Story being the direction I like - rather than have them further expand their catalog with Mr. Anderson's films. There are terrific classic and cult American films from the 50s, 60s, and 70s, that are easier to see outside of America than they are here. Additionally, there is a total lack of knowledge amongst younger viewers as to the history and depth of American cinema, which is why I believe that Criterion could be a very good 'teacher'

Pro-B

[aggienader08]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Sure there is. Your not going to have people turn into robots and like the popular opinion. I don't care is Anderson wins "Best Director Ever" award on National T.V., so it must be true. So why hate and post off-topic on the fact that people go off-topic and hate? I just see it as you hating on the fact someone doesn't like something you do.

But if you want robot central, then I better not see another bad opinion about ANYTHING, or they should be banned. I see posts that hate on more people than Wes Anderson, well more bashing on Criterion than Anderson, being they are the one releasing them. So what would you want, anti-opinion lovefest ("Oh I'm new here, I like what your having please. What's more popular Seven Samurai or Seventh Seal? The winner is the one I'm buying!"), or free opinion ("Godard films are so boring!" "Wes Anderson sucks!")?

It's not irony! Just defending what you enjoy, and I enjoy Anderson films and don't understand the hate. That's all! You're misinterpreting my defense.

[Beta Man]

7:03 EST, and no shipping info on my BBS set...... I don't mind if it doesn't ship out today, and even a delay I can deal with..... but a cancellation will end up costing me at least $10 extra, and honestly, it'll probably cost me $20 extra because I'd just order it from Amazon because I'd know exactly when I'll get it that way

[JediFonger]

i happen to like the maturing of Wes Anderson =). he and i understand one another as one OCD person to another OCD person

i think his best is fantastic mr. fox because how he can OCD control every detail there. but i am glad he's back to live action as well. just got darjeeling, his filmography is very good =). i just luv that he luvs the planning of things vs. the actual execution of the plan as i also do.

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by JediFonger

i happen to like the maturing of Wes Anderson =). he and i understand one another as one OCD person to another OCD person

i think his best is fantastic mr. fox because how he can OCD control every detail there. but i am glad he's back to live action as well. just got darjeeling, his filmography is very good =). i just luv that he luvs the planning of things vs. the actual execution of the plan as i also do.

OCD isn't something to be proud of.

[bugsy_pal]

Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Oh and the only reason they do, is because hip teens buy crap. Who is the hip director these days? Hmmmm.....

Here we go with another sweeping generalisation from the mind of CG... Actually, there are a number of assumptions embedded in that statement... that Wes Anderson films are crap, that he is a 'hip' director, that hip teens will buy his movies because they are hip... none of which there is any objective evidence for. I haven't even seen Anderson's films but they certainly don't seem like teen fodder for the most part.

Look, I'm in agreement with ccfixx about preferring to see more non-mainstream Americam cinema in the collection from the 60s and 70s. The BBS set is on my list for sure. But surely there's room for Anderson too...

On a related but somewhat tangential note, I had a dream last night in which I had bought a bluray disc of Wes Anderson's "Fantastic Mr Fox" for my 9 year old daughter. But it was a Criterion bluray, in the clear case! I had the disc in my hands and had opened it, and I was in a shopping mall or something similar and had to go to the toilet. I had the bluray case tucked under my arm while I stepped up to the urinal. I was taking care not to drop it and looking out for urine splotches on the floor. Before I could unzip and take a p*ss, I realised that the booklet had slipped out of the partially opened case and I had stepped on it, bending it a bit and rubbing it into a wet spot on the floor. My immediate thought was "Oh no - I'll have to email Jon Mulvaney - he'll send me a replacement booklet!" Pretty weird, huh?

[iam1bearcat]

if Criterion had to have one "Anderson" to choose from for films, i would easily prefer Paul Thomas Anderson. now there's a genius imo

[rkish]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

As much as I like Kurosawa on Criterion I am hoping for other releases in the coming months, Picnic At Hanging Rock, Les Vacances De Monsieur Hulot, Alexander Nevsky, Tokyo Story, In The Mood For Love,

Ditto on Tokyo Story!

[ccfixx]

Originally Posted by silentblu

The other terrible, Juno.

I completely disagree. I enjoy Diablo Cody's (Brook Busey) writing. I have no problem with having both "Juno" and "Jennifer's Body" in my possession.

Isn't it interesting how people aren't the same? It's a fascinating concept, for sure, how we can enjoy the majority of Criterion's output yet still have our own personal likes and interests without having to worry about what others think.

CC

[Trekkie313]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

I completely disagree. I enjoy Diablo Cody's (Brook Busey) writing. I have no problem with having both "Juno" and "Jennifer's Body" in my possession.


CC

[reallyagi]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

if Criterion had to have one "Anderson" to choose from for films, i would easily prefer Paul Thomas Anderson. now there's a genius imo

He is hip for sure, and I mean hip in a good way, because I saw it used in a bad way a few posts ago.

[greekak229]

Paul Thomas Anderson is a billion times better than Wes "My movies are boring as shit" Anderson.

[jcs913]

I think some of the cloudiness of this Anderson talk is that we are talking about his total output. Granted, CC needs to get the rights to the films before they distribute, but to obtain, and this is just my opinion, make it a priority to get almost all his films is what the discussion is about. There are so many other better selections of American cinema out in the world that CC should introduce, as Pro-B sort of hinted at, that when CC uses their funds and resources to obtain only 1 director, it hurts the "teaching" of what American cinema has to offer.

Oh and I will enjoy my guilty pleasure of The Expendables tonight, courtesy of Blockbuster online...