The Criterion Collection

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Freeza

I must not have seen that one.

It was two, actually.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by fdm

(Also don't recall Siskel's take on it, but do recall I usually preferred his perspective on films to Ebert's. Have enjoyed reading Ebert's books during the past few years though, would be interesting to go back and see if I'd still feel the same way today.)

I used to love Siskel's occasional 'well of course it sucked but so what, it was fun' tweaks at Ebert.

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by octagon

It was two, actually.

I'm assuming you're referring to the Kill Bills? To those I'd say that they were nothing more than Tarantino compiling a mix tape of his favorite scenes from other films, and in the end, even with the first being practically non-stop action, as a fan of the films he 'borrowed from', I found them tedious and boring. Stylish? Yes, to an extent (he even took some of that from the originals). But, "capture the spirit and the fun of those films in an interesting shell of your own making"? In my opinion, and I realize it isn't in the majority, but not even close.

Loved True Romance, Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction (must have seen it 6 or 7 times in the theater, with 3 viewings in opening weekend alone), so I'm not a hater, just lost respect for him when he got lazy and started claiming the work of others as his own, be it outright theft or self proclaimed homage.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by Freeza

To those I'd say that they were nothing more than Tarantino compiling a mix tape of his favorite scenes from other films

I know this conversation gets tedious but if you can give just one, and only one, example of a scene from a film he directly lifted for Kill Bill I'll concede the point to you.

[Tin Drum]

Originally Posted by Yami

I'm hoping that we finally get Edward Yang's A Brighter Summer Day but I get the feeling we're still in for a rather long wait

Fingers crossed. This film is, IMO, Yang's magnum opus.

I was in NYC when Lincoln Center had a retrospective of his work, but I just did not have the time available to take in any of the films (especially this one considering its length).

[Yami]

Originally Posted by Tin Drum

Fingers crossed. This film is, IMO, Yang's magnum opus.

I was in NYC when Lincoln Center had a retrospective of his work, but I just did not have the time available to take in any of the films (especially this one considering its length).

I think A Brighter Summer Day and Yi Yi are his best but Taipei Story and The Terrorizers aren't find behind. I'd love for all his work to get a Criterion release. It's a shame that Criterion haven't released any Hou Hsiao-Hsien to go along with Yang

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by Lutz

I know this conversation gets tedious but if you can give just one, and only one, example of a scene from a film he directly lifted for Kill Bill I'll concede the point to you.

I'm not asking anyone to concede anything.

[Lutz]

Originally Posted by Freeza

I'm not asking anyone to concede anything.

I mean because you're wrong.

In your post you stated both that you're a fan of the movies that he lifted scenes from and also that he made a movie entirely from a mix of these scenes. This should make it very easy for you to give a single example of one scene in Kill Bill which which is directly lifted from another movie.

[lim.davidd]

We can call Kill Bill, a movie inspired by many Kung Fu movies from Shaw Brothers

[Akijama]

Ok,my predictions for November are:

On the Waterfront
Trilogy of Life
Week End
Grey Gardens or The Thief of Bagdad

[Tin Drum]

Would Criterion really put two "Week End/Weekends" out in the same year?

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by Lutz

I mean because you're wrong.

In your post you stated both that you're a fan of the movies that he lifted scenes from and also that he made a movie entirely from a mix of these scenes. This should make it very easy for you to give a single example of one scene in Kill Bill which which is directly lifted from another movie.

This is why I didn't bother with a response. It was very obvious you were trying to start shit. Thanks for not making me wonder if I was correct in my thinking for very long.

[mport5150]

[TheGoodBadUgly9]

Originally Posted by Freeza

This is why I didn't bother with a response. It was very obvious you were trying to start shit. Thanks for not making me wonder if I was correct in my thinking for very long.

I wouldn't say that he is "trying to start shit." You willingly posted your opinion of Kill Bill on the internet. It is to be expected that somebody will disagree with your opinion and ask you to back it up.

[Freeza]

Originally Posted by oklahomafan999

I wouldn't say that he is "trying to start shit." You willingly posted your opinion of Kill Bill on the internet. It is to be expected that somebody will disagree with your opinion and ask you to back it up.

I posted my opinion, he challenged it. The way he phrased it, as well as adding the word 'directly' (which he did again in his demeaning follow-up) gave me the impression it wasn't merely an 'oh, and why do you feel that way' comment, but rather an invite to a never-ending pissing contest. I don't enjoy wasting my time feeding trolls.

[giannirenna]

Why are people predicting On the Waterfront being released? I really hope it is, I saw that movie a few months ago and it really blew me away.

[rkish]

For those with access to TCM/TCM-HD and needing a large binge of Marilyn Monoe...they are running a number of her films from now (12:00 PM EST) until midnight...starting with River of No Return (with Robert Mitchum). Anyone needing a Billy Wilder fix can check out The Seven Year Itch and Some Like It Hot from 6:00 PM to 10:00 PM.

Enjoy!

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by giannirenna

Why are people predicting On the Waterfront being released? I really hope it is, I saw that movie a few months ago and it really blew me away.

Criterion at one point put out a clue/picture featuring pigeons with boxing gloves.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by AgentOrange

Criterion at one point put out a clue/picture featuring pigeons with boxing gloves.

Not a fan of the movie but saw it about 5 months ago on a HD movie channel and the Blu-ray should look pretty sweet for the fans

[*DrStrangelove*]

Originally Posted by Freeza

I posted my opinion, he challenged it. The way he phrased it, as well as adding the word 'directly' (which he did again in his demeaning follow-up) gave me the impression it wasn't merely an 'oh, and why do you feel that way' comment, but rather an invite to a never-ending pissing contest. I don't enjoy wasting my time feeding trolls.

I'd like to know what scenes your talking about as well. Not because I think you're wrong (you're probably right). I just always here that Tarantino stole from other movies and am interested exactly what movies or scenes were stolen for Kill Bill.