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omahajon · 08-16-2021, 05:23 PM

This is one of Criterion's best months in a long time to me. Grabbing Kane and OUATIC for sure Day 1. Others later.

guizhang · 08-16-2021, 05:23 PM

will get mulholland 4k and the once upon a time in china set. should be around the time for criterion's flash sale?

Kylo_Ren · 08-16-2021, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by apollo828

Also, as I've mentioned before, Criterion DVDs were $40 when they came out in '98, which is ~US$65-70 in today's dollars. Sure, $40 is nice, but I'm not gonna cry if UHDs are $50. Even $60, while not ideal, would just make me a bit more selective regarding what I buy.

Good point!

anonymous_024 · 08-16-2021, 05:24 PM

I’m definitely in for both Citizen Kane and Mulholland Dr. (upgrade).

Thoughts on the Kane cover? Personally, I expected that poster they used to announce the 4K UHD titles. But I guess it is what it is, unless they pull another Tree of Life cover situation.

moviebuffed · 08-16-2021, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by dancerslegs

Criterion, c'mon with that Kane cover.

That said, looks like an amazing release overall.

My first reaction to that cover was meh but the more I looked at it I now see its significance. Criterion's first 4K disc and of course the huge "K" for Kane. Now I'm warming up to that cover.

RBBrittain · 08-16-2021, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by yoloswegmaster420

This was listed on the Criterion FAQ page:

Do you sell your discs outside the United States? In which regions do they play?

Seems like their UHD releases will be region-free!

I told everyone the BDA wouldn't stand Criterion going rogue on UHDBD. Still doesn't say the BDs in their UHDBD sets won't be region-locked, however -- especially since there will still be separate BD releases.

Incidentally, though Kane is top-billed it won't drop till 11/23 along with Menace II Society. Mulholland Dr. 4K drops 11/16 so it will officially be Criterion's first UHDBD. They also aren't resetting their spine numbers: Mulholland Dr. remains Spine 779, Kane is Spine 1104, Menace II Society is Spine 1105.

Gacivory · 08-16-2021, 05:29 PM

Now do you have to see Menace I Society before you see Menace II Society?

Also glad to see they aren't resetting the Spine Numbers. I thought that would've been dumb.

FragnitoM · 08-16-2021, 05:31 PM

grateful that they are going to UHD, but part of me remains disappointed with 4K restorations not getting a UHD like Once Upon a Time in China or the La Strada reissue.

SleazyForWeasley · 08-16-2021, 05:31 PM

Did anyone notice that DVD is no longer an option for upcoming releases that don't have an already existing DVD release? Finally! Get people out of the 90s.

RBBrittain · 08-16-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by guizhang

will get mulholland 4k and the once upon a time in china set. should be around the time for criterion's flash sale?

Depends on when the flash sale is. Both are set to drop 11/16.

Shanghai Express · 08-16-2021, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SleazyForWeasley

Did anyone notice that DVD is no longer an option for upcoming releases that don't have an already existing DVD release? Finally! Get people out of the 90s.

I was about to say this. End of an era tbh. Looks like Uncut Gems will be The Criterion Collection's last new DVD release.

Sommerswerd · 08-16-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FragnitoM

grateful that they are going to UHD, but part of me remains disappointed with 4K restorations not getting a UHD like Once Upon a Time in China or the La Strada reissue.

They might not have the rights to release those on 4K UHD.

bergman864 · 08-16-2021, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

Now do you have to see Menace I Society before you see Menace II Society?

Also glad to see they aren't resetting the Spine Numbers. I thought that would've been dumb.

In a world before Coming II America I would've thought that's not much of a joke.

MifuneFan · 08-16-2021, 05:36 PM

I'm surprised they'd drop future DVD releases to be honest. I imagine they still get a decent percentage of sales from that market, but I guess they expect to make up any losses there with UHD now. Institutions/libraries may hurt the most from that decision, but they'll just have to adapt to Blu-ray if they haven't yet.

SleazyForWeasley · 08-16-2021, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm surprised they'd drop future DVD releases to be honest. I imagine they still get a decent percentage of sales from that market, but I guess they expect to make up any losses there with UHD now. Institutions/libraries may hurt the most from that decision, but they'll just have to adapt to Blu-ray if they haven't yet.

Adapt or die. Labels and consumers alike.

Sommerswerd · 08-16-2021, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm surprised they'd drop future DVD releases to be honest. I imagine they still get a decent percentage of sales from that market, but I guess they expect to make up any losses there with UHD now. Institutions/libraries may hurt the most from that decision, but they'll just have to adapt to Blu-ray if they haven't yet.

It isn't like those films aren't widely available on DVD. The studio releases have existed for years.

jordan-r · 08-16-2021, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm surprised they'd drop future DVD releases to be honest. I imagine they still get a decent percentage of sales from that market, but I guess they expect to make up any losses there with UHD now. Institutions/libraries may hurt the most from that decision, but they'll just have to adapt to Blu-ray if they haven't yet.

I'm a librarian who buys media for my library. We're fine with buying Blu-ray when there isn't DVD, though we do prefer DVD. This won't stop us from buying Criterion titles in the future.

Strangerbyday · 08-16-2021, 05:47 PM

Yep, day 1 on Citizen Kane, Mulholland Drive, Menace II Society & Once Upon a Time in China.
Stacked month from Criterion!

jw007 · 08-16-2021, 06:42 PM

So here we go... UHD releases are going to be mixed in with regular blu-ray releases for upcoming announcements starting with November 2021.

So now when we talk about "upgrades" we're going to have to clarify whether its a DVD upgrade to BD or a BD upgrade to 4K UHD! Or perhaps Criterion will go from a DVD upgrade to a 4K UHD upgrade (since they are including blu-rays too - that will prob. be upgraded as well) in their combo releases!

And of course DVDs of new spine numbers will no longer be released either.

Is that how its going to work you think regarding upgrading older releases?

(as for November's announcements: Amazing)

SleazyForWeasley · 08-16-2021, 07:32 PM

For as long as people have been pushing Criterion for UHD, there are still indies that aren't even releasing blu-ray. Breaking Glass, who release LGBTQ films I'd like to support still generally only releases DVD and digital, neither of which I'll buy. I've never understood their obstinance. "We" have more disposable income than any other demographic, allegedly. So I'm happy Criterion is finally making the change, I just wish some other small distributors would come out of 1997.

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08-16-2021, 05:23 PM	#207821
omahajon Power Member Member since:Jun 2012 Location:Omaha 4K collection:189 Blu-ray collection:1702 DVD collection:193 Digital collection:4 Trading Score:1	This is one of Criterion's best months in a long time to me. Grabbing Kane and OUATIC for sure Day 1. Others later.

08-16-2021, 05:23 PM	#207822
guizhang Power Member Member since:Oct 2019 4K collection:84 Blu-ray collection:924 DVD collection:110 Trading Score:1	will get mulholland 4k and the once upon a time in china set. should be around the time for criterion's flash sale?

08-16-2021, 05:24 PM	#207824
anonymous_024 Active Member Member since:Mar 2012 4K collection:323 Blu-ray collection:580 DVD collection:68 MA collection:108 iTunes collection:36	I’m definitely in for both Citizen Kane and Mulholland Dr. (upgrade). Thoughts on the Kane cover? Personally, I expected that poster they used to announce the 4K UHD titles. But I guess it is what it is, unless they pull another Tree of Life cover situation.

08-16-2021, 05:29 PM	#207827
Gacivory Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Apr 2016 Location:Los Angeles, California 4K collection:1121 Blu-ray collection:5612 DVD collection:183 Digital collection:25 Trading Score:1	Now do you have to see Menace I Society before you see Menace II Society? Also glad to see they aren't resetting the Spine Numbers. I thought that would've been dumb.

08-16-2021, 05:31 PM	#207828
FragnitoM Power Member Member since:Jul 2018 Location:Washington, DC 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Trading Score:3	grateful that they are going to UHD, but part of me remains disappointed with 4K restorations not getting a UHD like Once Upon a Time in China or the La Strada reissue.

08-16-2021, 05:31 PM	#207829
SleazyForWeasley Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2011 Location:330-hio 4K collection:237 Blu-ray collection:873 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	Did anyone notice that DVD is no longer an option for upcoming releases that don't have an already existing DVD release? Finally! Get people out of the 90s.

08-16-2021, 05:36 PM	#207834
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	I'm surprised they'd drop future DVD releases to be honest. I imagine they still get a decent percentage of sales from that market, but I guess they expect to make up any losses there with UHD now. Institutions/libraries may hurt the most from that decision, but they'll just have to adapt to Blu-ray if they haven't yet.

08-16-2021, 05:47 PM	#207838
Strangerbyday Special Member Top contributor Member since:Jul 2014 Location:Ireland 4K collection:628 Blu-ray collection:2518 Trading Score:1	Yep, day 1 on Citizen Kane, Mulholland Drive, Menace II Society & Once Upon a Time in China. Stacked month from Criterion!

08-16-2021, 06:42 PM	#207839
jw007 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012 Location:Between PA, NJ, FL, and the Middle East Blu-ray collection:628 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:5	So here we go... UHD releases are going to be mixed in with regular blu-ray releases for upcoming announcements starting with November 2021. So now when we talk about "upgrades" we're going to have to clarify whether its a DVD upgrade to BD or a BD upgrade to 4K UHD! Or perhaps Criterion will go from a DVD upgrade to a 4K UHD upgrade (since they are including blu-rays too - that will prob. be upgraded as well) in their combo releases! And of course DVDs of new spine numbers will no longer be released either. Is that how its going to work you think regarding upgrading older releases? (as for November's announcements: Amazing)

08-16-2021, 07:32 PM	#207840
SleazyForWeasley Blu-ray Guru Member since:Oct 2011 Location:330-hio 4K collection:237 Blu-ray collection:873 DVD collection:117 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:18 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:3	For as long as people have been pushing Criterion for UHD, there are still indies that aren't even releasing blu-ray. Breaking Glass, who release LGBTQ films I'd like to support still generally only releases DVD and digital, neither of which I'll buy. I've never understood their obstinance. "We" have more disposable income than any other demographic, allegedly. So I'm happy Criterion is finally making the change, I just wish some other small distributors would come out of 1997.

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