The Criterion Collection

[dvining]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Criterion puts out a cover with giant-ass K, and people still spelling it wrong, SMH

Jeez, fine...

Kitizen Cane.

Better?

[MifuneFan]

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by dvining

Jeez, fine...

Kitizen Cane.

Better?

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Criterion puts out a cover with giant-ass K, and people still spelling it wrong, SMH

Maybe this is the sole reason I never liked this movie. Now that I know it's spelled with a K, I'm sure I'll just fall in love with this flick.

[Gunsnroses092789]

Originally Posted by regeyer

Maybe this is the sole reason I never liked this movie. Now that I know it's spelled with a K, I'm sure I'll just fall in love with this flick.

Jokes aside, it does get better with each subsequent viewing, so it may very well be worth it for you to give it another shot As a teen, I appreciated but didn't love. Then ten years later, I liked it more but still didn't love it. Now I think it's an amazing film.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by Gunsnroses092789

Jokes aside, it does get better with each subsequent viewing, so it may very well be worth it for you to give it another shot As a teen, I appreciated but didn't love. Then ten years later, I liked it more but still didn't love it. Now I think it's an amazing film.

It's got to be 15+ years since I saw this. So, maybe it's time to give it another go. I'll borrow it from the library unless it's on the Criterion Channel.

[andantelise]

Originally Posted by regeyer

It's got to be 15+ years since I saw this. So, maybe it's time to give it another go. I'll borrow it from the library unless it's on the Criterion Channel.

It's on HBOMax in case you have that.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by andantelise

It's on HBOMax in case you have that.

I don't. I'll check Criterion Channel, Netflix, and Prime. If it's not on any of those I'll just borrow it from the library. Not sure if they'll have the Criterion, but they'll have it on DVD or Blu-Ray.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by regeyer

I don't. I'll check Criterion Channel, Netflix, and Prime. If it's not on any of those I'll just borrow it from the library. Not sure if they'll have the Criterion, but they'll have it on DVD or Blu-Ray.

justwatch.com

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by dvining

justwatch.com

Interesting.

[theater dreamer]

Please promise yourself to give both Citizen Kane and Fellini, in general, a second chance sometime in the near future. If they still don’t resonate with you, that’s totally fine. Not every film will speak to every person. Art is subjective, and films approaching two hours, with so many different variables and stylistic choices possible, even the best films may not touch something inside you.

The first time I watched La Dolce Vita, while I appreciated the cinematography, it didn’t vibe with me. About a month later, I re-watched it, and absolutely fell in love with it. Suddenly I started to “get” Fellini, and that opened my eyes to the joys of Italian cinema, both the directors and her many stars. To think that I may have stopped after one viewing, what I may have never experienced. I’d have never seen the films of Michelangelo Antonioni or Vittorio De Sica, never appreciated the rich working relationship of Marcello Mastroianni and Sophia Loren.

You may similarly discover a second viewing of a Fellini film opens up worlds previously unknown to you.

Originally Posted by regeyer

100% agree on Citizen Cane. I saw it once and that was more than enough for me. With that said, I have nothing against the film. It's just not for me.

[regeyer]

Originally Posted by theater dreamer

Please promise yourself to give both Citizen Kane and Fellini, in general, a second chance sometime in the near future. If they still don’t resonate with you, that’s totally fine. Not every film will speak to every person. Art is subjective, and films approaching two hours, with so many different variables and stylistic choices possible, even the best films may not touch something inside you.

The first time I watched La Dolce Vita, while I appreciated the cinematography, it didn’t vibe with me. About a month later, I re-watched it, and absolutely fell in love with it. Suddenly I started to “get” Fellini, and that opened my eyes to the joys of Italian cinema, both the directors and her many stars. To think that I may have stopped after one viewing, what I may have never experienced. I’d have never seen the films of Michelangelo Antonioni or Vittorio De Sica, never appreciated the rich working relationship of Marcello Mastroianni and Sophia Loren.

You may similarly discover a second viewing of a Fellini film opens up worlds previously unknown to you.

Don't worry. As I've already said, I never sell my movies, regardless of whether I like them or not. And, as I've also said, I'm not giving up on Fellini. I plan to watch them all and to rewatch them as well.

And, I'll even give Citizen Cane, I mean Kane ;-), a rewatch.

[bergman864]

Fellini is an odd duck. The latter half of his filmography is definitely not for everybody. Amarcord, as previously mentioned, is a good one to try. La Strada and Nights of Cabiria are also good introductions, if someone balks at the 3 hour runtime of La Dolce Vita. Il Bidone is another good one.

With the exception of the above mentioned Amarcord, his color films are for those well versed in Fellini.

[ShellOilJunior]

La Strada is a great place to start with Fellini. It might take a little while for 'things to slow down' with him until movies like 8 1/2 or La dolce vita become enjoyable.

[dvining]

Originally Posted by bergman864

Fellini is an odd duck. The latter half of his filmography is definitely not for everybody. Amarcord, as previously mentioned, is a good one to try. La Strada and Nights of Cabiria are also good introductions, if someone balks at the 3 hour runtime of La Dolce Vita. Il Bidone is another good one.

With the exception of the above mentioned Amarcord, his color films are for those well versed in Fellini.

I've wondered for a while what someone who's never seen any other Fellini movie would think of City of Women.

I think someone could go into Ginger and Fred without previous exposure to Fellini's films, though, and enjoy it. It's sweet enough on its own without being steeped in the man's body of work.

[RojD]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

Satyricon is one of my all-time favorite movies, but it is definitely not for the casual movie fan.

I think I first saw Satyricon at a uni theater when I was an undergrad. I was bored out of my mind.

I just watched it again after the big box set came out, and I'd swear it was a different movie. I guess experience really does change how you respond to some things, because I loved it this time despite dreading the re-exposure (a friend wanted to watch it). It's probably in the top of his films for me now.

I completely agree it's not for a general audience. It wanders, and it makes a lot of demands on the viewer. If someone is used to that style and likes it, they'll enjoy Satyricon. If not, there are a lot of other great films by him in a more accessible style that other posters have mentioned.

[bergman864]

Originally Posted by dvining

I've wondered for a while what someone who's never seen any other Fellini movie would think of City of Women.

I think someone could go into Ginger and Fred without previous exposure to Fellini's films, though, and enjoy it. It's sweet enough on its own without being steeped in the man's body of work.

If someone didn't like the vignette style of Fellini's work City of Women probably wouldn't work for them. And because it floats thematically between La Dolce Vita and 8 1/2 it probably wouldn't appeal to the Fellini newbies.

I could see And the Ship Sails On appealing almost as much as Ginger and Fred.

[Frankie S]

Originally Posted by kvnbhovis

Fellini's early films up to La Dolce Vita are easier for traditional movie lovers to enjoy. From La Dolce Vita on, you have to have an appreciation for surrealism and art films in general...and it also helps to have a bit of patience.

Ironically, I generally love surrealism and art films (David Lynch is my favourite director), but much prefer Fellini’s output prior to La Dolce Vita. La Strada, Nights of Cabiria, Il bidone and particularly the wonderful I vitteloni are all masterpieces IMO.

I recently rewatched 8 1/2, as it’s held in such universally high regard that I felt like I must have missed something first time round. The second viewing only entrenched my initial antipathy. I find it boring and incredibly self-indulgent, and I doubt a third viewing will disavow me of that impression. There are wonderful moments, and many great images and sequences within, but Fellini’s perennial obsessions - Catholic guilt and circus grotesquerie - simply don’t resonate with me, and the plight of the protagonist - a wealthy philandering filmmaker with a messiah complex who is misunderstood by the obsequious coterie of socialites, fashionistas, groupies and lesser mortal who surround him - doesn’t exactly engender sympathy.

I can find things to like in most of Fellini’s later works (and I agree, Amarcord is a late career highlight) - Juliet of the Spirits also has great moments, but some late Fellini (e.g. The Voice of the Moon) is almost hilariously bad, as if Fellini is pastiching himself.

FWIW, I love Italian cinema, with a general preference for the neorealist school (as with Fellini, I prefer early Visconti to later Visconti), and Antonioni is certainly one of my favourite directors - the incredible trilogy L’Avventura, L’Eclisse and La Notte more or less represents the high watermark of European cinema for me.

[aloop]

Anyone know how B&N handles preorders during the sale? For example, if I preorder Citizen Kane from them right now, will I get the sale price when it ships?

[BunyipPouch]

Originally Posted by aloop

Anyone know how B&N handles preorders during the sale? For example, if I preorder Citizen Kane from them right now, will I get the sale price when it ships?

I would guess not, no. Sale starts soon, I'd just wait a bit...