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_Ewan_ · 12-15-2021, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mande2013

Hmm...I wonder to what extent if at all Criterion's Le Cercle Rouge 4K will improve on Studio Canal's, which I already own. If I didn't have the SC 4K this would be a day one purchase for me.

If it’s enough of an upgrade I’ll get it eventually. Probably when I can import it at a reasonable price.

mande2013 · 12-15-2021, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dvining

Finally...they're re-releasing Le Cercle Rouge.

I sold my OOP copy a couple of years ago for like $75 under the assumption it was coming back in print within months.

Well, 24 months is still months.

I got about $53 plus shipping costs for mine about a year ago, sold as "used-very good".

themp3000 · 12-15-2021, 04:31 PM

It’s a shame Le Cercle Rouge is bad 4K, so I’ll be passing on that. They cite using Studio Canal’s 4K. “ New 4K restoration from STUDIOCANAL of the uncut version of the film, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack”

Tempted by The Last Waltz though.

dkelly26666 · 12-15-2021, 04:32 PM

Well, I'll likely be TRIPLE dipping on "The Last Waltz".

I already have the MGM studio BD, plus the Eureka/Masters of Cinema BD (In fact, I JUST rewatched it the day after Thanksgiving).

I'm not 4K, so I guess I'll just buy another blu of it, LOL.

I really wish we'd get some Scorsese we don't already have, though.

"Love Jones" made me cringe in the 90s, so I can only imagine what it would do to my old codger self today. So, I'll pass. (That damn song: "They say I'm hopeless!....as a penny wit a hole in it....")

"Le Cercle Rouge" I surprisingly don;t have, so I may get that.

DukeTogo84 · 12-15-2021, 04:32 PM

Everyone is hoping that Le Cercle Rouge will be an upgrade over the previous Studio Canal release, but aren't Criterion's Studio Canal titles usually identical to the oversee ones? That's what I've usually seen.

Gacivory · 12-15-2021, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by themp3000

It’s a shame Le Cercle Rouge is bad 4K, so I’ll be passing on that. They cite using Studio Canal’s 4K. “ New 4K restoration from STUDIOCANAL of the uncut version of the film, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack”

Tempted by The Last Waltz though.

What does that mean? How is it bad 4K?

Gacivory · 12-15-2021, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Everyone is hoping that Le Cercle Rouge will be an upgrade over the previous Studio Canal release, but aren't Criterion's Studio Canal titles usually identical to the oversee ones? That's what I've usually seen.

The studio canal’s compression is not great, so this has the potential to being better in that sense.

mande2013 · 12-15-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by themp3000

It’s a shame Le Cercle Rouge is bad 4K, so I’ll be passing on that. They cite using Studio Canal’s 4K. “ New 4K restoration from STUDIOCANAL of the uncut version of the film, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack”

Tempted by The Last Waltz though.

I'm sure it'll be the same transfer as SC's release, but the encode could still be an improvement. The SC also has an extremely low bitrate for a 4K disc, although I may just say 'f**k it' and preorder Criterion's 4K anyway, since nothing else from the March 2022 slate is a day one buy for me.

MifuneFan · 12-15-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

What does that mean? How is it bad 4K?

I imagine he's basing it on the site review.

A lot of people like Studiocanal's release, and consider it a big improvement over the BD releases.

DukeTogo84 · 12-15-2021, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Gacivory

What does that mean? How is it bad 4K?

I don't own it, but if I remember correctly a lot of people didn't like the new color revision or whatever was going on with the new master.

The Sovereign · 12-15-2021, 04:38 PM

The Flight of the Phoenix is a terrific surprise to me - very excited to see it again! Also thrilled for Le Cercle Rouge to finally make its widely speculated return - in UHD no less! And it looks like I'll have to take one last waltz with The Last Waltz - great looking edition!

themp3000 · 12-15-2021, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I imagine he's basing it on the site review.

A lot of people like Studiocanal's release, and consider it a big improvement over the BD releases.

More than just this sites review, just screen caps and from a trusted friend who’s compared.

mande2013 · 12-15-2021, 04:41 PM

Le Cercle Rouge is an interesting inaugural non-Anglophone 4K to say the least. I expected it to be one of the "legacy Janus" titles like Seven Samurai, The 400 Blows, The Seventh Seal, etc.

BTSMGL · 12-15-2021, 04:42 PM

Did Criterion ever actually announce they're not doing DVD releases anymore? They've been winnowing them down the past few months and today there aren't any at all.

dkelly26666 · 12-15-2021, 04:44 PM

I just noticed that "The Last Waltz" cover shows Scorsese directing The Band!

Gonna have to get this again. Just gotta have the Criterion edition, that cover, and the new features. It may even be a PQ improvement, as well (I'm talking about the BD).

yoloswegmaster420 · 12-15-2021, 04:45 PM

They said that they were going to be making DVDs for titles that hadn't received them.

MifuneFan · 12-15-2021, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BTSMGL

Did Criterion ever actually announce they're not doing DVD releases anymore? They've been winnowing them down the past few months and today there aren't any at all.

Adoption has a DVD release.

Snicket · 12-15-2021, 04:48 PM

The Flight of the Phoenix and Le Cercle Rouge for sure! Glad to see a nice uptick in UHD titles to make up for February.

MifuneFan · 12-15-2021, 04:50 PM

I wonder how many titles Criterion acquired from Fox before Disney got them. Must be a bunch.

Mothravka · 12-15-2021, 05:01 PM

I already have the 4K UHD Studio Canal release of Le cercle rouge (1970), as well as their old Blu-ray. Will maybe get this one on 4K UHD too. It's a good film.

I was thinking of buying the Second Run release of Adoption (1975), but now the dilemma gets bigger. I'll probably end up with both that one and the Criterion. I wish it was a 4K UHD release, the choice would probably be easier then.

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12-15-2021, 04:31 PM	#210043
themp3000 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:384 Blu-ray collection:1803 DVD collection:107 Trading Score:103	It’s a shame Le Cercle Rouge is bad 4K, so I’ll be passing on that. They cite using Studio Canal’s 4K. “ New 4K restoration from STUDIOCANAL of the uncut version of the film, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack” Tempted by The Last Waltz though.

12-15-2021, 04:32 PM	#210044
dkelly26666 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012	Well, I'll likely be TRIPLE dipping on "The Last Waltz". I already have the MGM studio BD, plus the Eureka/Masters of Cinema BD (In fact, I JUST rewatched it the day after Thanksgiving). I'm not 4K, so I guess I'll just buy another blu of it, LOL. I really wish we'd get some Scorsese we don't already have, though. "Love Jones" made me cringe in the 90s, so I can only imagine what it would do to my old codger self today. So, I'll pass. (That damn song: "They say I'm hopeless!....as a penny wit a hole in it....") "Le Cercle Rouge" I surprisingly don;t have, so I may get that.

12-15-2021, 04:32 PM	#210045
DukeTogo84 Blu-ray Archduke Top contributor Member since:Aug 2012 Location:California 4K collection:155 Blu-ray collection:4940 Blu-ray reviews: 63 Trading Score:139	Everyone is hoping that Le Cercle Rouge will be an upgrade over the previous Studio Canal release, but aren't Criterion's Studio Canal titles usually identical to the oversee ones? That's what I've usually seen.

12-15-2021, 04:38 PM	#210051
The Sovereign Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jun 2015 4K collection:289 Blu-ray collection:3343 Trading Score:1	The Flight of the Phoenix is a terrific surprise to me - very excited to see it again! Also thrilled for Le Cercle Rouge to finally make its widely speculated return - in UHD no less! And it looks like I'll have to take one last waltz with The Last Waltz - great looking edition!

12-15-2021, 04:41 PM	#210053
mande2013 Special Member Member since:Nov 2014 Location:Paris, France 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:322	Le Cercle Rouge is an interesting inaugural non-Anglophone 4K to say the least. I expected it to be one of the "legacy Janus" titles like Seven Samurai, The 400 Blows, The Seventh Seal, etc.

12-15-2021, 04:42 PM	#210054
BTSMGL Active Member Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Manhattan, NY 4K collection:30 Blu-ray collection:1432	Did Criterion ever actually announce they're not doing DVD releases anymore? They've been winnowing them down the past few months and today there aren't any at all.

12-15-2021, 04:44 PM	#210055
dkelly26666 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Jul 2012	I just noticed that "The Last Waltz" cover shows Scorsese directing The Band! Gonna have to get this again. Just gotta have the Criterion edition, that cover, and the new features. It may even be a PQ improvement, as well (I'm talking about the BD).

12-15-2021, 04:45 PM	#210056
yoloswegmaster420 Power Member Member since:May 2015	They said that they were going to be making DVDs for titles that hadn't received them.

12-15-2021, 04:48 PM	#210058
Snicket Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2010 4K collection:622 Blu-ray collection:1160 Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:56	The Flight of the Phoenix and Le Cercle Rouge for sure! Glad to see a nice uptick in UHD titles to make up for February.

12-15-2021, 04:50 PM	#210059
MifuneFan Blu-ray Emperor Top contributor Member since:Mar 2012 Location:New York City 4K collection:27 Blu-ray collection:1143 Trading Score:69	I wonder how many titles Criterion acquired from Fox before Disney got them. Must be a bunch.

12-15-2021, 05:01 PM	#210060
Mothravka Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Aug 2015 Location:Европа 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- DVD collection:- Digital collection:-	I already have the 4K UHD Studio Canal release of Le cercle rouge (1970), as well as their old Blu-ray. Will maybe get this one on 4K UHD too. It's a good film. I was thinking of buying the Second Run release of Adoption (1975), but now the dilemma gets bigger. I'll probably end up with both that one and the Criterion. I wish it was a 4K UHD release, the choice would probably be easier then.

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