The Criterion Collection

[Citizen K]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

I’ve own all Criterion 4Ks except for Devil in a Blue Dress. Just looks mediocre to me!

Might look generic on paper, but I think it's a great film. Proper 1940's noir vibes too. You should give it a shot, especially the 4K.

[TravisTylerBlack]

Originally Posted by Matt89

Lol this place is hilarious sometimes. "Cape Fear is a B-movie", "John Huston is a supremely overrated filmmaker, a poor man's Orson Welles", I mean you just have to laugh.

~Matt

I'm low-key obsessed with Welles as a persona but Huston undeniably has the more consistent body of work.

Also he tended to actually finish his films. So there's that.

[kmhofmann]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

I don’t remember ITMFL having any noise reduction. Just the color timing looked like poopoo green.

The master has quite some amount of grain management applied to it, on both the Criterion box set version, as well as the German 4K UHD coming from the same master.
Fairly sure this is coming from the "restoration" facility - I don't think Criterion will be able to do anything else with what they're given.

[PNguyen]

Originally Posted by Citizen K

Might look generic on paper, but I think it's a great film. Proper 1940's noir vibes too. You should give it a shot, especially the 4K.

Looks like the whole movie is free to watch on YouTube. I'll watch it there first and then make a decision!

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by TravisTylerBlack

I'm low-key obsessed with Welles as a persona but Huston undeniably has the more consistent body of work.

Also he tended to actually finish his films. So there's that.

Huston > Welles, but I'm warmed by their chumminess...Huston gave Welles a small part in Moby Dick, while the latter cast former in The Other Side of the Wind.

[stvn1974]

So, was that pic of Kyle MacLachlan just shown because there is really good coffee at the Criterion headquarters?

[ShellBeacher]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

Looks like the whole movie is free to watch on YouTube. I'll watch it there first and then make a decision!

Not...legally. And not ideal presentation. But at least have a look, yes.

[Scholer]

Originally Posted by yoloswegmaster420

Are you 5 years old? I'm also disappointed by the lack of UHD for the trilogy but I'm not going to throw a massive hissy-fit like this.

If my random “hissy-fit” makes the UHD 0.00000001% more likely, then so be it!

Originally Posted by PNguyen

Everyone should go complain like they did with Uncut Gems and they might just change their minds

Exactly! Enough “hissy-fit”s might just force them to change their minds!

[Kyle15]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

I like Denzel, but the trailer I watched made it look cheesy. Also, it doesn't seem very well received as it only has a 6.7/10 on IMDb.

Just lost all bladder control AGAIN

[dvining]

Originally Posted by SeanJoyce

Huston > Welles, but I'm warmed by their chumminess...Huston gave Welles a small part in Moby Dick, while the latter cast former in The Other Side of the Wind.

And Welles held a small grudge because Huston was able to get funding for, film on location, and release The Man Who Would Be King while Welles was scrounging around for money to just keep filming The Other Side of the Wind.

[cgpublic]

What is it, a new pandemic?

Originally Posted by Poya

I beg to differ. The Scorsese film had complexity and moral ambiguity. The original was a simple B movie.

Go ahead and beg as the original perfectly illustrated both themes within a single character, Peck, while providing cinema with its single greatest depiction of evil personified by an everyman, Mitchum, on the other.

Originally Posted by Jorvic

The original Cape Fear is a decent film but for me, not quite in the same league as the Scorsese one.

Well, you are right that one is not in the same league as the other, but you need to flip them around and chalk it up to momentary confusion.

Just as the original sought to embody his gestalt and related style, Scorsese's film is a homage to Hitchcock, Cape Fear's original director who drafted the storyboards referenced by J. Lee Thompson, his replacement and director of record for the first film.

Many of Hitchcock's collaborators were also employed for the original Cape Fear, including Robert F. Boyle and George Tomasini who served as production designer and editor, respectively, but most notably Bernard Herrmann for the score and actor Martin Balsam, who had appeared in Psycho.

Of the two, the original is not only a superior reflection of what made Hitchcock such a great director, but also in distilling that quality to make something unique, a quality which Scorsese's film lacks in my opinion due to the overbearing and too obvious Hitchcockian motifs, which take me out of the story and into cinematic cue cards.

Scorsese's Cape Fear is a perfectly entertaining film, but for me never attains the degree of fear established in the original, in spite of its more graphic nature. The first film results in Peck's character, the most decent of decent men, as a man driven beyond his nature. That Nolte's character takes the steps he does in response are entirely predictable and without conflict.

Furthermore, what you and others seem to be overlooking is the fact the original Cape Fear was truly a controversial film to produce and an equally challenging film for audiences to screen, the implied subject matter shocking to the overwhelming general, post-code public. That we are even having a discussion about the film and its related impact is truly a surprise given the time it was made.

The remake? Not so much, on more counts than one.

[Rayjg]

Criterion definitely got a hardy on for Denzel all of a sudden.

[Abdrewes]

Originally Posted by Rayjg

Criterion definitely got a hardy on for Denzel all of a sudden.

5 Films by Tony Scott & Denzel Washington UHD box por favor.

[Burt Lancaster]

I'd trade a UHD of The Killer and Hard Boiled for everything else planned next year.

[SeanJoyce]

Originally Posted by dvining

And Welles held a small grudge because Huston was able to get funding for, film on location, and release The Man Who Would Be King while Welles was scrounging around for money to just keep filming The Other Side of the Wind.

Welles held many grudges.

[Dankk]

Originally Posted by Abdrewes

5 Films by Tony Scott & Denzel Washington UHD box por favor.

Man, I would LOVE this.

[Axl Rose]

The artwork for Malcolm X makes it look like a film about a journalist or detective. Unlike Citizen Kane, this is one where a letter on a black background would have worked. X, Daises, Power of the Dog are forsures. In The Mood possibly but not too keen on the revisionism.

[toasted]

I’ve only ever known In the Mood For Love from the World of Wong Kar-wai box set, and I still absolutely fell in love with it, so the UHD is a must.

[jshaide]

Originally Posted by Burt Lancaster

I'd trade a UHD of The Killer and Hard Boiled for everything else planned next year.

Oh man, the day I can get rid of those two antiquated Criterion DVDs of each. . .

[NeilZ]

Originally Posted by PNguyen

I’ve own all Criterion 4Ks except for Devil in a Blue Dress. Just looks mediocre to me!

That was one of my favorites. Highly recommend it. Denzel Washington is awesome in it.