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Old 07-11-2023, 04:40 PM   #219521
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Eureka is on their level, IMO.
Indicator too, and Arrow is no slouch. Gonna suspect that poster isn't region-free.
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Old 07-11-2023, 04:44 PM   #219522
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Indicator too, and Arrow is no slouch. Gonna suspect that poster isn't region-free.
Yep region a only. And you all suggested great labels! Arrow in the US is too schlock focused for me even though they put out great releases.
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Old 07-11-2023, 05:25 PM   #219523
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I like Criterion, but I've almost run out of titles to add to my collection. I primarily collect Classic Hollywood and almost have all the Classic Hollywood titles. I started to branch out with French New Wave as I discovered those films. I am also branching out into 60s and 70s American cinema, so I suppose there is more out there for me to discover. During the B&N 50% off sale, I got the Bruce Lee box set, "Thelma and Louise," and "Targets." I just saw "Enter the Dragon" for the first time this year at my first TCM Film Festival and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. I wasn't sure if I'd like it, but I went because my husband wanted to go.

My favorite boutique label is Kino because they have been killing it lately with Classic Hollywood releases. I am not region-free, but I do have some region free Indicator titles and I just got my first Imprint the other day.
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I like Criterion, but I've almost run out of titles to add to my collection. I primarily collect Classic Hollywood and almost have all the Classic Hollywood titles. I started to branch out with French New Wave as I discovered those films. I am also branching out into 60s and 70s American cinema, so I suppose there is more out there for me to discover. During the B&N 50% off sale, I got the Bruce Lee box set, "Thelma and Louise," and "Targets." I just saw "Enter the Dragon" for the first time this year at my first TCM Film Festival and I was surprised how much I enjoyed it. I wasn't sure if I'd like it, but I went because my husband wanted to go.

My favorite boutique label is Kino because they have been killing it lately with Classic Hollywood releases. I am not region-free, but I do have some region free Indicator titles and I just got my first Imprint the other day.
Collect what you like and like what you collect. That's exactly what I do.

I enjoy many of the Criterion releases, but certainly not all. There's nothing wrong with that.
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Old 07-11-2023, 07:11 PM   #219525
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Collect what you like and like what you collect. That's exactly what I do.

I enjoy many of the Criterion releases, but certainly not all. There's nothing wrong with that.
For sure. I know that I am not interested in at least 75-80% of the collection, nor am I going to pretend to be excited about some of the recent announcements.

I am interested in seeing more films from the 60s and 70s, so I am exploring those. However, I am less likely to blind buy those than I am the Classic Hollywood. Thankfully the library, Criterion Channel, and TCM are there to help me see some of those films. I loved the Alan J. Pakula "Paranoia" trilogy. I just hope that "All the President's Men" can find its way to a Criterion or other boutique release some day. I hated "Shampoo" when I saw it. With such a scandalous-seeming presence, I thought it was boring. Maybe I just didn't "get" what Hal Ashby was trying to do.
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Old 07-11-2023, 07:25 PM   #219526
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Is there any crossover between Criterion's Bruce Lee collection and Arrow's upcoming 4K set?
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Old 07-11-2023, 07:41 PM   #219527
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:07 PM   #219528
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Indicator too, and Arrow is no slouch. Gonna suspect that poster isn't region-free.
In reality though, no, Indicator and Eureka do not compete. Criterion has the largest library of films from the greatest directors of all time and its not even a discussion worth having. Tarkovsky, Kurasowa, Bergman, Fellini, Ozu, Scorsese, Chaplin, Bresson, Godard, Truffaut, and thats just scratching the surface. Love other labels all you want, but nobodies library comes anywhere close.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:35 PM   #219529
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[Show spoiler]In reality though, no, Indicator and Eureka do not compete. Criterion has the largest library of films from the greatest directors of all time and its not even a discussion worth having. Tarkovsky, Kurasowa, Bergman, Fellini, Ozu, Scorsese, Chaplin, Bresson, Godard, Truffaut, and thats just scratching the surface. Love other labels all you want, but nobodies library comes anywhere close.
"Library" is only half of what we're talking about...curation is the other, and the "reality" is that Criterion has been surpassed in that department by some of the above-mentioned labels when it comes to presentation, quality control and supplements.

I wouldn't expect somebody with a collection as small and Region A-centric as yours to know that, though.
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Old 07-11-2023, 08:47 PM   #219530
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"Library" is only half of what we're talking about...curation is the other, and the "reality" is that Criterion has been surpassed in that department by some of the above-mentioned labels when it comes to presentation, quality control and supplements.

I wouldn't expect somebody with a collection as small and Region A-centric as yours to know that, though.
I haven’t updated my collection on here since probably 2015, but good try buddy. Why is it that no other label can “curate” films from all the filmmakers I listed above?
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Old 07-11-2023, 09:00 PM   #219531
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I haven’t updated my collection on here since probably 2015, but good try buddy.
Which primarily-European label that was mentioned above do you have films from, then?

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Why is is that you're unable to provide any evidence to the contrary? Because you, like the other guy, buy only Region A and are frankly unqualified to speak to the qualitative merits of said labels.

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I loved the Alan J. Pakula "Paranoia" trilogy. I just hope that "All the President's Men" can find its way to a Criterion or other boutique release some day.
Gordon Willis for the win.

IMO those are Pakula's best films agreed, just really captured the paranoia of the 70s. Criterion should put them out as a boxset.

Pakula's death was bizarre, like something from The Parallax View.
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Indicator too, and Arrow is no slouch. Gonna suspect that poster isn't region-free.
Going region free was one of the best moves I ever made. Great for my collection, not so great for my wallet lol
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If Criterion would individually release some of the films from Ingmar Bergman's Cinema that do not yet have stand-alone editions that would be great.
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One heck of a haul from my local library’s Friends of the Library store. 50 cents each, just over $25 total. They only sell items donated by someone to help the library. Not former library titles. They had three out and I kindly asked if there were any more in the back as they had added two after I grabbed three and went with my daughter to the kid play area. To my surprise the volunteer came out with a cart full, ended up with 49 total titles. Only one Blu, but I’m not complaining at all. I’ll pay it forward to some friends with ones I already have on blu.




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Which primarily-European label that was mentioned above do you have films from, then?


Why is is that you're unable to provide any evidence to the contrary? Because you, like the other guy, buy only Region A and are frankly unqualified to speak to the qualitative merits of said labels.

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Arrow, Radiance, Eureka
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Arrow, Radiance, Eureka
If you owned any Eureka, you'd know that your original premise of them not having an auspicious and eclectic catalogue doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Just a cursory glance at their output will yield an impressive selection containing Wilder, Huston, Lang, Scorsese, Fuller, Welles, Keaton, etc.

Criterion dominates my boutique label collection; I've made two trips to B&N already, including one tonight. But to blindly dismiss the strides that other labels have made in the physical media game is ridiculously shortsighted.
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If you owned any Eureka, you'd know that your original premise of them not having an auspicious and eclectic catalogue doesn't stand up to scrutiny. Just a cursory glance at their output will yield an impressive selection containing Wilder, Huston, Lang, Scorsese, Fuller, Welles, Keaton, etc.

Criterion dominates my boutique label collection; I've made two trips to B&N already, including one tonight. But to blindly dismiss the strides that other labels have made in the physical media game is ridiculously shortsighted.
I’m not dismissing it in the slightest, just saying when you take a step back and look at it, nothing comes close to matching criterion’s catalogue
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I’m not dismissing it in the slightest, just saying when you take a step back and look at it, nothing comes close to matching criterion’s catalogue
Again, that wasn't my bone of contention. Criterion has been the leader in world cinema for home video going on several decades; it's little surprise that other boutique labels can't stand up to the breadth and depth of their library.

What some other labels have managed to do, however, is surpass Criterion when it comes to consistent excellence, be it superior A/V quality, beefier extras, booklet quality, etc.
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Almost all 4K is region friendly. I'm surprised that some are English subtitle& extras friendly too. That region free Blu-player argument doesn't hold water anymore. It did 10-10+ years back but times change. Old movies especially Criterions have garbage compression and do nothing for a projector or 4K set. They look good on your old 50 inch plasma sittin 10 foot back still tho. Great investment.
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