The Criterion Collection

[amputd]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Said it before but more westerners need to explore Bollywood, it’s one of the biggest industries but I think some people dismiss it for being musicals (even though not every film is and they’re often masala films, switching between different genre codes or only having a couple of, usually very catchy, songs) or their length (even though they tend to have intermissions and fly by). It’s absurd that many films aren’t represented on BD like Sholay or Lagaan, or are stuck with ancient masters like Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge or Devdas.

I’m open to exploring more Indian cinema, but I can’t lie- the convention of having musical numbers in so many films is a big turn off for me. It changes the tone in such dramatic ways and certainly kills the realism. My hang up, I guess.

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by amputd

I’m open to exploring more Indian cinema, but I can’t lie- the convention of having musical numbers in so many films is a big turn off for me. It changes the tone in such dramatic ways and certainly kills the realism. My hang up, I guess.

I thought I would have the same issue, but it didn't bother me that much with the horror set from Mondo Macabro. I actually really enjoyed those films overall.

[speedracer5]

Originally Posted by Smegma

As we approach 2024, I'm really hoping for a good year with Criterion.
Wonder how many of these we might see:

4k upgrades:
Brazil 4k
M 4k
Paris Texas 4k
Solaris 4k

New to Criterion 4k:
Sunset Boulevard 4k

Blu-rays upgrades:
Long Good Friday
O Lucky Man
Peeping Tom
Simon of the Desert

New to Criterion Blu-ray:
Catch 22
Desperate Living
World's Greatest Sinner

I realize that the artist who did these passed away a few years ago, but I really miss the drawing that Criterion would release in December, which hinted at the upcoming slate of films coming in the new year.

[Shanghai Express]

Originally Posted by Shanghai Express

I suppose since Criterion is currently releasing The Last Picture Show on 4K UHD after its appearance in both a Columbia Classics 4K box set and a previous Criterion edition, we can expect the same for It Happened One Night? It's in the same situation.

EDIT: Add His Girl Friday to my question. Just got announced for the upcoming Columbia Classics box. Bet we'll see a Criterion in 2025 or something.

[bergman864]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

At this point, the lack of P&P is a crime against humanity. Aside from the 4K of The Red Shoes about two years ago, I can't even remember the last time one of their films dropped from Criterion.

The Tales of Hoffmann in June 2022.

[speedracer5]

Originally Posted by Shanghai Express

EDIT: Add His Girl Friday to my question. Just got announced for the upcoming Columbia Classics box. Bet we'll see a Criterion in 2025 or something.

I hope Criterion will continue releasing new Classic Hollywood titles as well as upgrading existing titles. Unless it's an upgrade from DVD to Blu Ray/4K, the upgrades from Blu Ray to 4K aren't that interesting to me.

[amputd]

Black Narcissus would be my first choice for a PP 4k release.

[hawkikwah]

Originally Posted by bebop wino

That sounds really cool...If I remember correctly,back in the early 90´s he was advertising in Psychotronic magazine and selling World´s Greatest Sinner vhs tape for about 50 or 60 dollars.It´s currently only available on dvd-r,this bonkers classic needs to be on blu-ray!!

Wow 50 or 60 bones? If I’m recalling correctly I think I paid 20 for it. The screening was def an experience I’ll never forget. People were losing their minds w laughter. Def one badass movie. And the trailers before the vhs are priceless; the Fartfather or whatever flatulence obsession Carey was into at the time. Would love to see any of them

[deadheadbill]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

Depends on their theatrical and Criterion Channel release schedules. On the horizon from them are Anselm, Afire, Lynch/Oz, Orlando My Political Biography, Totem, The Beast, Evil Does Not Exist, Last Summer. Afire has a German BD with English subtitles, while Lynch/Oz has a UK BD with commentary track.



Alex Cox already hinted towards Pat Garrett (makes sense with Peckinpah and Dylan), but doesn’t Captain Blood have elements issues?



Said it before but more westerners need to explore Bollywood, it’s one of the biggest industries but I think some people dismiss it for being musicals (even though not every film is and they’re often masala films, switching between different genre codes or only having a couple of, usually very catchy, songs) or their length (even though they tend to have intermissions and fly by). It’s absurd that many films aren’t represented on BD like Sholay or Lagaan, or are stuck with ancient masters like Dilwale Dulhania Le Jayenge or Devdas.

I appreciate your viewpoint and for the sake of others I hope they do release more Bollywood, but I've tried several times and I just can't dig it.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by DukeTogo84

Many interesting points, but a lot of these old masters still look pretty good. I think most Japanese film fans would take an old master versus nothing at all at this point.

Not if you had a Japanese 4k restored version, released around a similar time frame. Few collectors like to have a known inferior version, even if it's alright on its own merits. And I daresay any HD master from more than 15 years is probably not measuring up to current standards of video expectations for even vintage titles.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by hoytereden

I saw it a couple of times on TCM Underground (I really miss that time slot)

It has left a legacy. They had House on as part of their Halloween season, and someone seems to be trying to keep the TCM Underground flag flying late Friday / early Saturday (They had Alphabet City on this morning). That time slot was my favorite part of the week, so many great cult films some of which I even knew about and so many new ones I learned about. Plus great shorts like Shake Hands With Danger (done by the guy who did Carnival of Souls).

I would love to have a chance to boo Zaslav at a commencement, if for nothing else than the firing of Millie De Chirico. But hey, he got his nine-figure bonus and that's what counts.

Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav Booed at BU Commencement - YouTube

[DukeTogo84]

Originally Posted by ravenus

Not if you had a Japanese 4k restored version, released around a similar time frame. Few collectors like to have a known inferior version, even if it's alright on its own merits. And I daresay any HD master from more than 15 years is probably not measuring up to current standards of video expectations for even vintage titles.

Well, the VAST majority of Japanese titles Criterion have, don't have a superior 4K restoration anywhere in the world, including Japan. Outside of a handful of Toho titles, mostly Kurosawa or Honda films, and a few other random titles, most of the 300 films Criterion have, are using older masters. So it really would be a case of older master, or no release at all, I'll take an older master in a split second versus nothing ever getting a release.

[CelestialAgent]

Originally Posted by deadheadbill

I appreciate your viewpoint and for the sake of others I hope they do release more Bollywood, but I've tried several times and I just can't dig it.

It really depends on what you watch though as it encompasses all genres and is far from a monolith. Different eras of filmmaking as well.

Originally Posted by amputd

I’m open to exploring more Indian cinema, but I can’t lie- the convention of having musical numbers in so many films is a big turn off for me. It changes the tone in such dramatic ways and certainly kills the realism. My hang up, I guess.

Not every film is going to be striving for realism though, especially if it’s more action/fantasy than just romance.

[Rayjg]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

It has left a legacy. They had House on as part of their Halloween season, and someone seems to be trying to keep the TCM Underground flag flying late Friday / early Saturday (They had Alphabet City on this morning). That time slot was my favorite part of the week, so many great cult films some of which I even knew about and so many new ones I learned about. Plus great shorts like Shake Hands With Danger (done by the guy who did Carnival of Souls.

I would love to have a chance to boo Zaslav at a commencement, if for nothing else than the firing of Millie De Chirico. But hey, he got his nine-figure bonus and that's what counts.

Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav Booed at BU Commencement - YouTube

Hell to the yeah!

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by CelestialAgent

It really depends on what you watch though as it encompasses all genres and is far from a monolith. Different eras of filmmaking as well.

Certainly true! Though that can also be said about Western musicals - there are many people who simply don't get into them at all, despite the huge variety of styles and tones.

[deadheadbill]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

It has left a legacy. They had House on as part of their Halloween season, and someone seems to be trying to keep the TCM Underground flag flying late Friday / early Saturday (They had Alphabet City on this morning). That time slot was my favorite part of the week, so many great cult films some of which I even knew about and so many new ones I learned about. Plus great shorts like Shake Hands With Danger (done by the guy who did Carnival of Souls).

I would love to have a chance to boo Zaslav at a commencement, if for nothing else than the firing of Millie De Chirico. But hey, he got his nine-figure bonus and that's what counts.

Warner Bros CEO David Zaslav Booed at BU Commencement - YouTube

That was so awesome. He is a complete tool. His Wiley Coyote vs ACME fiasco has gotten congress involved.

[Egbert Souse]

Originally Posted by Shanghai Express

EDIT: Add His Girl Friday to my question. Just got announced for the upcoming Columbia Classics box. Bet we'll see a Criterion in 2025 or something.

The contents of the fourth CC box makes me believe that we'll get some Sony 4K titles from Criterion, Shout, and Arrow in 2024.

Most obvious are probably On the Waterfront (also the 70th anniversary), All The King's Men (75th), It Happened One Night (90th), Easy Rider (55th), and maybe even Taxi Driver and The Age of Innocence. Perhaps we'll get all the Best Picture winners on 4K between all the boutiques and Sony themselves.

[speedracer5]

I managed to purchase the "Dietrich and von Sternberg in Hollywood" blu ray box set at Barnes and Noble. We'll see if they're able to fulfill the order. I also picked up "The Great Dictator" and the new 4K of "The Last Picture Show."

[Member-880182]

Originally Posted by speedracer5

I managed to purchase the "Dietrich and von Sternberg in Hollywood" blu ray box set at Barnes and Noble. We'll see if they're able to fulfill the order. I also picked up "The Great Dictator" and the new 4K of "The Last Picture Show."

I just managed to snag a Dietrich/von Sternberg set as well. I have been waiting for that to be back in stock for months. Here's hoping it is actually in stock. If it is, here's hoping they don't just throw it into a garbage bag and slap a shipping label on it. I returned a previous D/vS set because it was damaged, and then it was unavailable again.

[speedracer5]

Originally Posted by Lee2112

I just managed to snag a Dietrich/von Sternberg set as well. I have been waiting for that to be back in stock for months. Here's hoping it is actually in stock. If it is, here's hoping they don't just throw it into a garbage bag and slap a shipping label on it. I returned a previous D/vS set because it was damaged, and then it was unavailable again.

Ah man. Fingers crossed. I know they had the DVD version of the set available, but the sale price is the same as the blu ray, so why would I get the DVD? I hope they have the set available too, I've been waiting for it to be on sale all year. The only issue I've ever had with packaging is ordering from Target. Two different times, my movie came with the box smashed and the cover art torn. My bird chewed up the corner of my box and cover art for "The Awful Truth." I'm hoping Criterion has started up their replacement program again.