The Criterion Collection

[Watershipdownisgood]

Heck yeah so many great titles this lineup is insane I'm interested in everything, but won't be pre-ordering everything still this lineup is just amazing. I love it awesome job Criterion I know what titles I'm pre-ordering for July besides Jet Li films from 88 Films on Blu-Ray and 4K UHD.

[JoelGoodsen]

Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan

Hopefully, Tom Cruise and Criterion can convince Di$ney to give us 4K's of Cocktail and The Color of Money. It's extremely doubtful, but maybe Cruise can charm some pants off.

Both of those in 4K would also be ace. Love Cocktail almost as much as Risky Business.

[NeoNical]

Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan

Hopefully, Tom Cruise and Criterion can convince Di$ney to give us 4K's of Cocktail and The Color of Money. It's extremely doubtful, but maybe Cruise can charm some pants off.

Doubtful of Cocktail. Still would love a 4K of it though. It's definitely not as huge or well acclaimed as Cruise's other works.

The Color of Money seems more likely since it's a Scorsese film and his relationship with Criterion is pretty well known.

It kinda blows my mind that Risky Business is the first Tom Cruise film to make it in the Criterion Collection. I think many of us would've expected the highly demanded Eyes Wide Shut to have come first. Nonetheless, this surprise was an absolutely amazing one.

And speaking of Disney owned titles, I would love a 4K of The Sound of Music. I don't care who releases it, I just want it in my collection.

[gbm82]

Originally Posted by NeoNical

Calling this one, that has THOSE movies in the announcements, the worst month in a long time is insane

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...ostcount=11361

[jshaide]

In for everything but Risky Business. Never picked up Le Samurai in any incarnation!

[Starman22]

I'm interested with Risky Business and might blind buy of Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid.

[Watershipdownisgood]

Dang it I swear I don’t do enough research on these things. I just assume certain titles don’t have Blu-Rays when in reality they do have Blu-Rays already, or got a Blu-Ray in the past. I feel so dumb I need to research these things better before making assumptions.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

North by Northwest would be excellent and makes sense for July. The other big WB title Criterion allegedly has, Amadeus, would then be slated for November is my guess.

I'll gladly take the Doinel set in 4K. I think another title that might be released is The Wages of Fear UHD.

I wonder why these two haven't been announced yet. It's their anniversary years, they're huge movies, and yet they're still unannounced.

At least North By Northwest has a solid Blu-ray. Amadeus only has a snapper DVD, and I don't even know if it's anamorphic.

While The 400 Blows is on 4K in France, Criterion and the films' owner MK2 should definitely do all of the films from the Doniel DVD set in 4K. That DVD reguarly breaks $80 on eBay.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

We're getting closer! Just Captain Blood, and O Lucky Man! to go.

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

Interesting, and it seems like Captain Blood is probably next along with probably Barry Lyndon in 4K UHD plus Blu-Ray. This is definitely not a coincidence I think Criterion had a number of these titles in the works for a long while. Criterion has never released Barry Lyndon before on Blu-Ray, or 4K UHD at all so I wonder if that might get announced for August next month. I’ll have to keep an eye on this list.

Originally Posted by CRASHLANDING

Was watching for an updated version of this list, I figured it would be posted soon! Thanks!

Captain Blood is another one where we know it's coming, just not when or from whom. While I know there's a (hardly) better DVD and a (much) better stream out there, I'm clinging to my tapes for dear life until a Blu-ray or 4K drops...but man, do these tapes suck. For reference, if anyone's familiar with Goodtimes Home Video or Madacy Home Video, or maybe some bottom-of-the-barrel prints of PD movies, that's about where my tapes of Captain Blood are.

As for O Lucky Man! (one of the most expensive mass produced DVDs out there), I don't know what the actual hell is holding that up. I also don't know why the DVD went out of print, when WB owns at least US rights outright, at most the whole film outright. By the time the plastic in the discs had dried, it was already OOP. If Britannia Hospital can get two Blu-rays (Powerhouse in the UK, KL in the US), O Lucky Man! can get at least one. Considering it is the film that bought McDowell to Kubrick's attention, and got him his legendary role in A Clockwork Orange, that film needs to be seen again. Better to pay $25-$30 for a Criterion 4K or $20-$25 for a Blu-ray than over $70 for a DVD.

Which of course brings us to Kubrick, who has gotten some of the best discs ever from Criterion. Somewhat shockingly, there have been no Kubrick 4Ks from Criterion, and we're on track to go three years without one from WB.

The first four will be in print from KL for a while. Maybe they'll come back to Criterion, maybe they won't. Worth double dipping for the special features.

Spartacus and Dr. Strangelove, the only perk of them coming to Criterion would be they get easier to find. Also, I don't know whether there was any special features lag on Strangelove, but there was definitely some on Spartacus. (At least one Blu-ray or 4K review actually concluded with "...and go get the laserdisc or DVD from Criterion too!" That says a lot.

Lolita, I don't know where that is. I'm assuming it won't be coming from WHV since they don't really support people creeping on young girls and they really don't want to be attached to a movie that has any connection to something like that. WAC is still on the "no 4K" bandwagon, which leaves Criterion.

2001, while the old special features are interesting, the main draw to get me to repurchase this again (just bought another 4K back in the fall) is if they finally release the deleted scenes which WB has confirmed still exist (they're supposedly a 35mm reduction print). That would justify the triple dip for me.

ACO, that one could use a lot of work. First, give us that mono track in PCM. After hearing Criterion's work on the After Hours mono track, and after recently hearing the ACO soundtrack on vinyl, this needs to happen. Second, bring over all the US special features from the previous discs, including Stanley Kubrick: A Life In Pictures and O Lucky Malcolm! that were shamefully deleted from most of the 4K releases of the film. Third, and this would be huge, license the hundreds of hours and thousands of pages of news clips, articles, interviews, documentaries (especially Forbidden Fruit), and the like from the UK created between 1971 and 2001, where the film had a much different reception than it did here. Given the footage's nature, it likely still all exists, or at least the vast majority of it does. That would be "release of the year" material.

BL, they already have a solid 4K transfer, just do the HDR and DV and release it. It will be solid.

The Shining, go back and redo the color timing so that it actually resembles the original theatrical prints. Again, give us the original soundtrack in PCM, which hasn't been available since at least 1999. I think all the special features have always been carried over, so fortunately that's not an issue here.

FMJ, the actual transfer is great, and though I've heard some grumblings about it, I can't for the life of me see anything wrong with it. For the third time, do the original soundtrack in PCM, which hasn't been out since at least the 90s. The only special features that were left off were one or two documentaries from the Digibook Blu-ray, so it would be nice to carry them over.

EWS, first of all, the unrated cut released in 2007 (with the exception of the edited Jocelyn Pook track) is the cut Kubrick turned in six days before his death. Restore and release this already, and including the 2007 special features would make this a legendary release.

Also, when there's controversy as to the aspect ratio (Killer's Kiss, The Killing, Paths Of Glory, Lolita, Dr. Strangelove, ACO, BL, The Shining, FMJ, EWS), or there's multiple cuts of the movie (Killer's Kiss - unsure if the original ending still exists, Spartacus, Lolita, 2001, ACO, The Shining, EWS), restore and release all cuts and all aspect ratios.

For arguably the greatest director ever, his films deserve to be treated like they're made by the greatest director ever.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by traths

The last two years Criterion has released a Scorsese film in July. Maybe we’ll get Killers of the Flower Moon this year?

Originally Posted by themp3000

If we have a Scorsese again, I would love for it to be Alice Doesn’t Live Here Anymore…

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I was going to add that to my predictions list too, but I'm just not sure if Apple are willing to license to Criterion or not (Velvet Underground wsa licensed from Polygram apparently). I'm still hoping Criterion can get CODA from them.

Originally Posted by HipsterTrash

And while I would like an individual release but I doubt it would get one, they should tack on Who's That Knocking at My Door.

Originally Posted by Brad1963

I wonder if it will come from Warner Archive instead.

Originally Posted by starman15317

Continuing to keep my fingers crossed for Bringing Out the Dead...

Scorsese's movies need to come out ASAP. Who's That Knocking At My Door, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, formerly After Hours, and Bringing Out The Dead are/were highly demanded titles, not just because of the director but because they're damn good movies. After Hours had to be one of Criterion's biggest releases ever. Now we're waiting for the rest. They had pretty strong DVDs, but it's high time for Blu-rays and 4Ks.

I'll also add a few more to the list that I'd love to see Criterion revisit at some point soon. The Last Temptation Of Christ on 4K (I've been passing on the Blu-ray for years), which needs a brand new restoration, and Goodfellas on 4K, which only needs a new HDR/DV grade overseen by Scorsese and his team and it will be good to go. Goodfellas always has been a very dark movie, and Scorsese is known for his dark visuals. He also knows how to present these scenes without the dark visuals being crushed. After Hours, where 90% of the movie takes place outside at night, is a great example of this. Despite being predominantly dark throughout, there was not one instance of crushing in the entire transfer. Goodfellas, on the other hand, was perfect until they passed it to the HDR guy at WB, and now the 4K is crushed to all hell. A new HDR/DV grade and Goodfellas will literally be a whole different disc in more ways than one.

A Kundun 4K would be nice too, but the admittedly solid Blu-ray from Kino is likely the best we will get for a long while.

Another extremely underrated Scorsese film we need from Criterion is Silence. I think that's with Lionsgate, and I don't know if they have a contract with anyone.

KOTFM is one that needs to show the hell up already. The region-locked 4K in Europe could always be imported, but still they should just release the movie on 4K here.

I've always believed that while there's no "second tier Scorsese", there are two groups of his films: the masterpieces that are known (Mean Streets, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Goodfellas, The Departed, Killers Of The Flower Moon), and the masterpieces that went under the radar (Who's That Knocking At My Door, Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore, After Hours, Casino, Bringing Out The Dead, Silence).

Oh, and CODA needs a Blu-ray or 4K too. Boutiques would either be Criterion or Arrow, studios would either be Sony or Lionsgate. Boutiques there's a chance of a 4K, studios it's almost a sure thing it will be Blu-ray only. But I think that movie was shot/edited/mastered at 2K and it has a 2K DI, so aside from compression and HDR/DV you're not really missing out by getting "only" a Blu-ray.

[Shogun MacArthur]

Well, now that Pat Garrett is finally on its way, my other long awaited title is on my mind now, The World's Greatest Sinner. I feel like it's been talked about for years that Criterion will eventually release it. Any recent news?

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Peter Greenaway's The Cook, the Thief, His Wife & Her Lover (1989) opens at IFC Center on June 7th. Criterion are said to have this one, so with it being the film's 25th anniversary, we'll hopefully see a BD / 4K later this year.

https://www.ifccenter.com/films/the-...ife-her-lover/

Originally Posted by jshaide

I saw that last night! Clicked on it hoping it would say "Janus"!

While we need a 4K of this, it's gone practically under the radar that it's on Blu-ray in other parts of the world, including this region-free release from Umbrella in Australia that's actually not that bad.

This would definitely come from a boutique, but your guess is as good as mine.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Shanghai Express

Trouble In Paradise still has only that one still on its page, so it's probably not coming

It's either with Criterion or WAC, but I'm honestly not sure who has it. We know someone has it, we know it's coming from someone, we just don't know who or when. Perhaps asking GF during one of the podcasts would get some answers, but that's admittedly a hokey method of getting answers and it's not guaranteed to work.

[Shane Rollins]

Couple questions about some of the releases...

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid 4K UHD!

[Show spoiler]https://www.criterion.com/films/2902...-billy-the-kid

Originally Posted by mca213

Finally, what a day to be alive !


3 different cuts !

Originally Posted by Jaymole

Can you tell which is the 3rd cut because I am only seeing 2 cuts? Thanks

Originally Posted by benkell

The cut you may have missed is the 2k master of the Final Preview Cut. (It is further down the spec list)

Originally Posted by mca213

50TH ANNIVERSARY RELEASE 2024 • 117 minutes • Color • Monaural • 2.35:1 aspect ratio

ORIGINAL THEATRICAL RELEASE 1973 • 106 minutes • Color • Monaural • 2.35:1 aspect ratio

FINAL PREVIEW CUT 1973 • 122 minutes • Color • Monaural • 2.35:1 aspect ratio

The "original theatrical release" is pretty self-explanatory.

The "Final Preview Cut", I'm 99% sure that's the version on all the 1988-onwards tapes and the laserdiscs, and is one of the discs in the 2005 DVD. I'm shocked there's not a 4K restoration of this, since it's arguably the best version of the movie (only one of the three in this set that Peckinpah oversaw, edited, and approved). Not a dealbreaker, but still a damn shame.

The "50th Anniversary Release", I'm not sure whether this is a new cut or the 2005 DVD cut that rightfully has a pretty controversial reception.

Someone please fill in the blanks/correct any mistakes here.

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Le Samourai 4K UHD!

[Show spoiler]https://www.criterion.com/films/184-le-samoura

Considering the vast differences between the 4K and the Blu-ray, will Criterion FINALLY begin including remastered Blu-rays with their 4Ks, or are they still going with the "old Blu, new 4K" thing?

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Risky Business 4K UHD

[Show spoiler]https://www.criterion.com/films/33808-risky-business

Is this the "director's cut" they're talking about...

The remastered 25th-anniversary edition offers "both the upbeat studio ending and Mr. Brickman's original, more tentative and melancholic conclusion".

...or is there something else I don't know about?

Oh and to mca213...

Originally Posted by mca123

Still waiting for PTA's Hard Eight & Sam Peckinpah's Pat Garrett & Billy the Kid

...it brings me great joy to tell you it's time to update your signature.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Zapp Brannigan

Hopefully, Tom Cruise and Criterion can convince Di$ney to give us 4K's of Cocktail and The Color of Money. It's extremely doubtful, but maybe Cruise can charm some pants off.

Originally Posted by JoelGoodsen

Both of those in 4K would also be ace. Love Cocktail almost as much as Risky Business.

Originally Posted by NeoNical

Doubtful of Cocktail. Still would love a 4K of it though. It's definitely not as huge or well acclaimed as Cruise's other works.

The Color of Money seems more likely since it's a Scorsese film and his relationship with Criterion is pretty well known.

It kinda blows my mind that Risky Business is the first Tom Cruise film to make it in the Criterion Collection. I think many of us would've expected the highly demanded Eyes Wide Shut to have come first. Nonetheless, this surprise was an absolutely amazing one.

And speaking of Disney owned titles, I would love a 4K of The Sound of Music. I don't care who releases it, I just want it in my collection.

What got WALL-E released is "the director has pull". Scorsese has way more pull than WALL-E's director, so he should use his pull to get his films out from under the mouse's ass. He may not get Kundun, but he could definitely get The Color Of Money.

And The Sound Of Music has a solid scan and restoration, the problem is the color timing. It falls on the bad side of "looks like it was shot yesterday", if you know what I mean. If you look at the 2005 DVD, you'll see way better color timing. It was approved by Robert Wise too. If they just took the previous restoration, timed it to be identical to the 2005 disc, and dropped it on either a Blu-ray or an SDR 4K, it would be a major improvement over what they have now. If they redid it from scratch, and had the color timing, HDR, and DV done by someone who isn't a fool, it would be even better.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by jshaide

In for everything but Risky Business. Never picked up Le Samurai in any incarnation!

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[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

Criterion also has The Wild Bunch (1969) now.
No idea when it will be prepped for release.

Holy new information!

Where and when did you hear this? How did you hear this?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Richard--W

Criterion also has The Wild Bunch (1969) now.
No idea when it will be prepped for release.

Is this confirmed somewhere?

[OceanBlue]

Out of today's latest batch of Criterion US announcements, am definitely interested in Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid (I would be getting the two-disc Blu-ray release).

[Richard--W]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Is this confirmed somewhere?

No, as I said, no idea when.
But you may rely on the information.