The Criterion Collection

[Nazca]

Originally Posted by NeoNical

I'm beyond excited to see this. I hope Nikkatsu will restore Youth of the Beast as well. If they can make their restorations for these films as amazing as Branded to Kill, then I can die happily. The older Blu-ray edition still looks pretty good by today's standard and this is a film that I have revisited an ungodly amount of times. It's practically a yearly tradition for me to revisit these two films

I wouldn't be surprised if Youth of the Beast (1963) is on their radar, especially seeing it's one of Suzuki's more popular/well-known/important films! Seeing this is the same team that did Branded to Kill (1967), Profound Desires of the Gods (1968), as well as most of (if not all) of Nikkatsu's other restorations, I wouldn't be surprised if this was another stellar restoration.

[edmoney]

Originally Posted by yanghao6998

So for those unaware, Arrow's edition of The Last Emperor comes with a 5.1 track sourced from the 6-channel audio in the 70mm mix of the film.

Since the upcoming Criterion release only contains a 2.0 option, I reached out to them about potentially including the 5.1 track and here is their response.

So who is actually correct? Can anyone confirm whether the Arrow 5.1 is OG or a remix?

[Axl Rose]

Originally Posted by Flex_MythoMass

How many Criterion titles have you guys bought on 4K despite already owning the blu? So far I’ve resisted the urge, with two exceptions: Night of the Living Dead and Blue Velvet.

3 or 4 but plenty that I haven't. Too much good stuff coming out right now to be focused on upgrades.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by dwk

Toho has always been kind of prickly, especially with Godzilla.

This example isn't Godzilla, but Toho got pissed at Criterion for having a restoration demo on their initial Seven Samurai DVD and had them pull it and remove the demo because they felt it made them look bad.

Holy new information!

Which DVD are we talking about here? There's DVDs from 1998, 1999, and 2006 listed on our site?

And were there two different releases of that DVD?

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Jexes23

Prediction. I won't get Barry Lyndon or Eyes Wide Shut in 4Ks like I want.

We may get one of those for November.

Still, aside from the KL 4Ks (and FaD had an encode from hell), we haven't got a Kubrick 4K since ACO nearly three years ago!

If Criterion did 4Ks of Lolita (I believe OOP), Spartacus (OOP, frequently goes for insane prices, but it sold enough that it shouldn't be that expensive), ACO, BL, The Shining, FMJ, and EWS, it would be amazing. They'd take the bad parts of the current releases and make them good, and take the good parts and make them better.

I've been watching ACO again, right after watching Criterion's 4K of After Hours, and the Criterion disc has a great PCM mono mix. Imagine Wendy Carlos' score in PCM just tearing your speakers to shreds. If ACO could have that level of sound quality on disc, it would be truly amazing.

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I'm sure it's highly unlikely, but can someone with a Channel subscription check if Friedkin's Jade plays with a Criterion logo at the start:

https://www.criterionchannel.com/dir...lliam-friedkin

Kino had said the movie was picked up by another label. I imagine it's more likely Arrow, or SF, but you never know these days.

Originally Posted by The Sovereign

I'd be really surprised to see that come from Criterion. The two you mentioned or maybe Cinematographe seem more likely.

Originally Posted by vtblake

Just checked, it does not.

Originally Posted by jshaide

it does not, it goes right to Paramount.

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Yeah, it was definitely a long shot. I do suspect it's Arrow, but yeah, even VinSyn is not out of the question.

Thanks everyone for checking!

Originally Posted by NeoNical

I really hope to see Light Sleeper, Sorcerer, and Obayashi get releases from Criterion. I would definitely be down for a Sorcerer UHD since the 4K restoration for this looks absolutely beautiful. I'm surprised Light Sleeper still hasn't gotten a Blu-ray release here in the states (I bought myself a copy on iTunes about a year ago).

Would love to see UHDs of Manhunter and L.A. Confidential, even though I'm certain Criterion won't be getting these titles (L.A. Confidential is stuck with Disney now).

With Jade, I wonder if it's one cut or both cuts. The DC is only out on tape, and it's pretty hard to find.

The rest of Friedkin's stuff is going to start coming out now that he's not alive to cause the poor studio restoring the film any grief. The boutiques would pounce at the opportunity to release normal versions of The French Connection, The Exorcist, Sorcerer, Cruising, and the rest of his films. Frankly, they may have pounced already.

I'm not even joking, if they release a normal copy of The Exorcist, with 100% original picture and 100% original sound, I'll buy it. Even after the other 4K was released just last year, even after the scramble to get copies (I got a rock), I'll pounce on a normal copy of this movie.

Manhunter is a case of good news and bad news. The good news is Manhunter is getting a 4K soon, no later than 2026, and there's hard evidence to back it up. The bad news is the evidence is that Michael Mann recently completed his "new and improved" cut of Manhunter, and that's what will be on the 4K.

Seriously, we can't win with some people.

Much like Friedkin, the unedited versions of Mann's movies will be out within a few years of his eventual death.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

Yes please I think we're definitely getting the Straight Story finally. As a result, it would open the floodgates for new to Blu-Ray Touchstone, and Hollywood Pictures Titles. Like Dead Presidents, The Ref, The Program, Quiz Show, Alive, and others

I'm sure there's new masters for all of these too, at least 2K. The Ref has one, and it's just gathering dust.

I recently checked out both my tape and DVD, and they're both awful. Knowing that Disney has a better master and they're just sitting on it is such a smack in the face.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by CuckterionCollection

I remember I thought Criterion was like the Hall of Fame of movies. I wish they'd have some delay between when a movie is released and when it's released in the collection. That way we can know if the movie really stands the test of time. But I guess All of Us Strangers from last year got fast tracked to classic status probably because Criterion panders. If that's the case, then that just cheapens the concept of this whole collection being something special.

It is. So far I've had well over a 90% satisfaction rate.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by Flex_MythoMass

They’ve released what, close to 1500 films? It’s ok (and probable) that there are some that don’t resonate with you.

My honest thoughts on the Collection, of which I've seen maybe 100 movies max, is that's a list of movies I should see. Maybe I'll like them, maybe I won't, but I'll at least see them. Many of these films (including all of the works of Kurosawa, Ozu, Bergman, and P&P) are ones I would've never heard of or watched had I not been introduced to the Collection as a teenager.

Just take a list of titles, seek them out, and watch them. If you like the, great. If you don't, great. You'll still be seeing movies you otherwise wouldn't have thought twice about.

[ShortFuse98]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

My honest thoughts on the Collection, of which I've seen maybe 100 movies max, is that's a list of movies I should see. Maybe I'll like them, maybe I won't, but I'll at least see them. Many of these films (including all of the works of Kurosawa, Ozu, Bergman, and P&P) are ones I would've never heard of or watched had I not been introduced to the Collection as a teenager.

Just take a list of titles, seek them out, and watch them. If you like the, great. If you don't, great. You'll still be seeing movies you otherwise wouldn't have thought twice about.

Pretty much my same thoughts. People shouldn't get so caught up in Criterion's prestige marketing hype.

[LordoftheRings]

Are you a Velvet fan? Then you can add the Blue (4K)

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Holy new information!

Which DVD are we talking about here? There's DVDs from 1998, 1999, and 2006 listed on our site?

And were there two different releases of that DVD?

The first one from 1998. Actually I think the demo is still on the second one (1999), but the menu to get to it was dropped.

[Flex_MythoMass]

Originally Posted by LordoftheRings

Are you a Velvet fan? Then you can add the Blue (4K)

I want to drape myself in velvet.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by yanghao6998

So for those unaware, Arrow's edition of The Last Emperor comes with a 5.1 track sourced from the 6-channel audio in the 70mm mix of the film.

Since the upcoming Criterion release only contains a 2.0 option, I reached out to them about potentially including the 5.1 track and here is their response.

Originally Posted by edmoney

So who is actually correct? Can anyone confirm whether the Arrow 5.1 is OG or a remix?

I'm starting to think the "two steps forward on step back" thing is intentional. Not only do we have to buy umpteen releases of everything, but we also can't make a few bucks selling off our old copies because they're still relevant.

The Last Emperor is a Best Picture winner. It deserves better than to be caught in this BS.

[Shane Rollins]

Originally Posted by dwk

The first one from 1998. Actually I think the demo is still on the second one (1999), but the menu to get to it was dropped.

Is there a way to get to it? Entering certain titles in the player, certain shortcuts, etc?

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

I'm starting to think the "two steps forward on step back" thing is intentional. Not only do we have to buy umpteen releases of everything, but we also can't make a few bucks selling off our old copies because they're still relevant.

The Last Emperor is a Best Picture winner. It deserves better than to be caught in this BS.

I did some research and this debate has been going on since the BD release. There were some insanely nitpicky discussions about the state of surround in 1988 which made my head hurt. At any rate, Criterion seemed very sure about it back in 2008 as well.

(I did see a shrinkingly of people complaining about the dialogue levels on the 5.1 mix, for the record, though that's hardly scientific.)

[LordoftheRings]

Originally Posted by Flex_MythoMass

I want to drape myself in velvet.

June 25; couple more days and all the velvet to warp/wrap you around.

[Ishai]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

My honest thoughts on the Collection, of which I've seen maybe 100 movies max, is that's a list of movies I should see. Maybe I'll like them, maybe I won't, but I'll at least see them. Many of these films (including all of the works of Kurosawa, Ozu, Bergman, and P&P) are ones I would've never heard of or watched had I not been introduced to the Collection as a teenager.

Just take a list of titles, seek them out, and watch them. If you like the, great. If you don't, great. You'll still be seeing movies you otherwise wouldn't have thought twice about.

There are a lot of Criterion collection titles on Max, movies I might've skipped if they weren't on the collection but now I can check them out and the ones I really like are added to my wishlist for future Criterion sales.

[KurtLazyhammer]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

With Jade, I wonder if it's one cut or both cuts. The DC is only out on tape, and it's pretty hard to find.

The rest of Friedkin's stuff is going to start coming out now that he's not alive to cause the poor studio restoring the film any grief. The boutiques would pounce at the opportunity to release normal versions of The French Connection, The Exorcist, Sorcerer, Cruising, and the rest of his films. Frankly, they may have pounced already.

I'm not even joking, if they release a normal copy of The Exorcist, with 100% original picture and 100% original sound, I'll buy it. Even after the other 4K was released just last year, even after the scramble to get copies (I got a rock), I'll pounce on a normal copy of this movie.

Manhunter is a case of good news and bad news. The good news is Manhunter is getting a 4K soon, no later than 2026, and there's hard evidence to back it up. The bad news is the evidence is that Michael Mann recently completed his "new and improved" cut of Manhunter, and that's what will be on the 4K.

Seriously, we can't win with some people.

Much like Friedkin, the unedited versions of Mann's movies will be out within a few years of his eventual death.

The director’s cut of Jade has been available digitally for a few years now btw.

[dwk]

Originally Posted by Shane Rollins

Is there a way to get to it? Entering certain titles in the player, certain shortcuts, etc?

All I can find is if you play VTS_02_1.VOB file in you computer's disc drive. But there may be ways to play it in your player, I am not sure. The demo is on youtube

The Criterion Collection - Seven Samurai Restoration Demonstration (1998) - YouTube

[teddyballgame]

Bummer to hear about Donald Sutherland passing. I hope that one day Klute will make it to 4k. I would have never put him together with Jane Fonda but hey it worked they had chemistry.