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[Dr. Zaius]

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[BrokenGlass41]

My last order from the sale just went through. I got The Killing (yes, I know Kino put out a UHD, but it’s a two-for-one), Detour, and Citizen Kane in 4K.

[Martin_31]

Has anyone made a list of all the Kino 4K titles that use to be Criterion Blu-ray releases?

[Egbert Souse]

Originally Posted by Martin_31

Has anyone made a list of all the Kino 4K titles that use to be Criterion Blu-ray releases?

Blu-ray (all MGM except*):
12 Angry Men
Dressed to Kill
The Great Escape
In the Heat of the Night
Killer's Kiss
The Night of the Hunter
The Killing
Paths of Glory
Some Like It Hot
Last Year at Marienbad* (StudioCanal) - Blu-ray, 4K upcoming
The Manchurian Candidate
The Great Escape
Dressed to Kill
The Silence of the Lambs

DVD:
Bob le flambeur (StudioCanal) - Blu-ray, 4K upcoming
Le doulos (StudioCanal) - Blu-ray, 4K upcoming

Laserdisc:
Invasion of the Body Snatchers (Paramount) - Blu-ray/4K
High Noon (Paramount) - Blu-ray/4K
Nostalghia - Blu-ray/4K

[ShortFuse98]

Originally Posted by TV2693

If there is any meaning to 'Gummo', it's cynical and meretricious. Why does he(Korine) have such a smug view on Middle America and these people? What are we to take away from them? Where's it's point of view? Where's the film coming from? What's Korine's angle? Where are the pathos that makes these characters living, breathing creations(like in 'Kids'), and not mere cartoons?

That's why Gummo didn't work for me. I think Korine basically wanted to make a modern day mondo film about poor people, but he decided to conceal his intentions behind a veil of arty pretension. If he had been unashamed about making an exploitation film I might have liked it.

[Taylor3978]

Originally Posted by TV2693

'Gummo' also isnt' very good because it has no point of view on the extreme cynicism and nihilism on display. Korine just continually pushed his smug view on Middle American with no point.

I guess I just cannot wrap my head around Criterion releasing this puerile poseur POS and having no interest in releasing what is visually one of the best westerns I have ever seen, probably Roger Deakins' best work, and Brad Pitt's best performance:



If we're rating films for being provocative, how about MASH? Sally Kellerman is humiliated by being exposed naked in front of a camp of laughing, jeering GIs, literally crawling away in her humiliation. Hur hur. The theme song, Suicide Is Painless, refers to the dentist wishing to commit suicide because he thinks he's gay (but fear not, he is resurrected by a (female) nurse who gives him an erection). And it's pretty much wearing casual 70s era racism on its sleeve. Edgy.

For the record, I like Eating Raoul. It has a point of view and it's funny. Paul Bartel and Mary Woronov are the moralistic couple repulsed by swinger culture, so they start killing swingers and selling their bodies to a restaurant. It's actually kind of sweet in the way it does not take itself seriously. Anybody who thinks this film is critical of failing public morality has missed the point.

[SoulTaker3000]

Ya'll can stay mad that Criterion is releasing Gummo. If we were all talking in person, I'd feel more open to discussion. While this a forum, I feel discussing my opinion further and pointing out segments in the film that are meaningful to me, is not worth the effort. I don't care to attempt to convince anyone anything about the film. You dont like it, think it's meaningless, Poser, whatever. If you seek clarification on aspects of the film, then listen to Harmony speak about it. If what he says doesn't appeal to you, move along.

[Member-682067]

Originally Posted by Taylor3978

I guess I just cannot wrap my head around Criterion releasing this puerile poseur POS and having no interest in releasing what is visually one of the best westerns I have ever seen, probably Roger Deakins' best work, and Brad Pitt's best performance:



If we're rating films for being provocative, how about MASH? Sally Kellerman is humiliated by being exposed naked in front of a camp of laughing, jeering GIs, literally crawling away in her humiliation. Hur hur. The theme song, Suicide Is Painless, refers to the dentist wishing to commit suicide because he thinks he's gay (but fear not, he is resurrected by a (female) nurse who gives him an erection). And it's pretty much wearing casual 70s era racism on its sleeve. Edgy.

For the record, I like Eating Raoul. It has a point of view and it's funny. Paul Bartel and Mary Woronov are the moralistic couple repulsed by swinger culture, so they start killing swingers and selling their bodies to a restaurant. It's actually kind of sweet in the way it does not take itself seriously. Anybody who thinks this film is critical of failing public morality has missed the point.

Ah, 'Mash' doesnt fail morally in the way 'Porky's' does because it's all intended to be ironic and also because of the character's point of view. The movie depicts racism and homophobia in a droll way, the joke isn't simply because someone is black or gay and ridiculing them is funny.

'Porky's wants the audience to laugh at things that aren't really funny, and plays it's nastiness and 'comedy' straight. Look how desperate the director is with trying to make the office scene with Ms. Brickbayer funny: the characters are putting ethics to the side and just laugh and the director is hoping the laughter is contagious and we'll do the same. A woman being sexually humuliated in 'Porky's world is just funny because a woman gets upset by something vulgar. There's no subtext or irony. It's vicious and misogynstic.

'Mash', insofar as it's a comedy(I don't think I would classify it as a 'comedy') is ironic and deeper and wants us to laugh at things because they aren't funny--in the context of the horror and lawlessness of everyday life on an army camp. If you don't laugh at their exploits and understand why they do them, you give in to the horror of war and the Army's militant view on it.

They pull pranks on hot lips Hoolihan because she doesn't realize how callous her attitude is towards what is happening on the camp and the feelings of the soldiers. She's a villain.

They're offended by the army's unfeeling facade and their complete objectivity about the madness going on around them. They don't understand how their attitude goes unaffected by what they see in the hospital.

And so the soldiers pull pranks on Hoolihan, for example, because they want to break her brutal, villainous, and militant army viewpoint to regroup her humanity and better understand how they feel as well as share their cynicism.

'Eating Raoul' is ironic as well.

[BadBart]

If you can't watch a movie like M*A*S*H for what it was in the time it was made, then you are overthinking it. A movie like Porky's isn't trying to be anything but a simple sex comedy. Blazing Saddles was extremely funny at it's release and it still is (unless you have to view it through current lenses). Relax, drink a beer and enjoy a damn movie without trying to be the moral police for the rest of the group. Time to get back to our regularly scheduled movie enjoyment... Cheers!!

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by BadBart

If you can't watch a movie like M*A*S*H for what it was in the time it was made, then you are overthinking it. A movie like Porky's isn't trying to be anything but a simple sex comedy. Blazing Saddles was extremely funny at it's release and it still is (unless you have to view it through current lenses). Relax, drink a beer and enjoy a damn movie without trying to be the moral police for the rest of the group. Time to get back to our regularly scheduled movie enjoyment... Cheers!!

Thank you it's like trying to find a deeper meaning in an old 80s film like Rad, and Chuck Norris movies they're meant to be fun 80s films nothing more nothing less it's absolutely ridiculous. And I freaking love those movies I cannot believe what I am reading in this forum.

[gkolb]

Originally Posted by jshaide

Gallo also gave what Ebert joked was the "cancer curse" when he was diagnosed, and following Gallo calling him fat he responded "I may be fat, but one day I may be thin. But you will always be the director of The Brown Bunny".

Classic WC Fields bit.

[Colonel Blimp]

I mean, the problem is we can't watch a movie for what it was in the time it was made, because it's not the time it was made.

MASH is a movie about one war made in the middle of another war. It was madness there and everywhere. So *nobody* in 1970 would be upset that the harridan of a nurse and her narc of a boyfriend got their comeuppance. Hot Lips and Frank Burns were stand-ins for the 1970 "establishment."

But in 2024, it's the one woman character in the movie being humiliated (the other nurses have maybe six lines between them). So yeah, in the context of 1970, I'm sure that was less important than the bigger social satire the movie was really getting at etc etc - but now it's 2024 and it's a little cringey. It can be cringey and funny, the trick is keeping perspective so it's not too much of either.

[Gacivory]

Anyone do another stop at Barnes & Noble?

[BadBart]

I didn't stop in but I have done my part to support Joel in the purchase of Risky Business which will be a sure viewing upon arrival. I will even tap a cold one in honor of this release!! Good times ahead.

On a side note, I did just watch my Eureka release of Pandora's Box. I was absolutely blown away at this story and the acting of Louise Brooks. I highly recommend a viewing for anyone who hasn't had interest in this title. Please don't be put off by this silent title, you will be surprised at how immersed you are when you watch this film.

[CRASHLANDING]

Originally Posted by BadBart

On a side note, I did just watch my Eureka release of Pandora's Box. I was absolutely blown away at this story and the acting of Louise Brooks. I highly recommend a viewing for anyone who hasn't had interest in this title. Please don't be put off by this silent title, you will be surprised at how immersed you are when you watch this film.

Agreed, it's a fabulous film and story, and Brooks is truly amazing. It's films (and performances) like these that showed what the format was capable of being. It's a must watch for anyone with even a passing interest in the history of early cinema, and totally enjoyable on its merits as well.

[Gacivory]

Originally Posted by BadBart

I didn't stop in but I have done my part to support Joel in the purchase of Risky Business which will be a sure viewing upon arrival. I will even tap a cold one in honor of this release!! Good times ahead.

On a side note, I did just watch my Eureka release of Pandora's Box. I was absolutely blown away at this story and the acting of Louise Brooks. I highly recommend a viewing for anyone who hasn't had interest in this title. Please don't be put off by this silent title, you will be surprised at how immersed you are when you watch this film.

I want to go back one more time, but currrently had to get a new car so that ate into budget.

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by BadBart

On a side note, I did just watch my Eureka release of Pandora's Box. I was absolutely blown away at this story and the acting of Louise Brooks. I highly recommend a viewing for anyone who hasn't had interest in this title. Please don't be put off by this silent title, you will be surprised at how immersed you are when you watch this film.

Yeah, I saw it at a cinema some years back and was surprised by how modern and sexy it was. That dance sequence was smoking, and I strongly think Bertolucci was doing homage to it in The Conformist . And the film is very non-judgemental of Brooks' amoral character, we even cheer for her escape from the brothel.

[ravenus]

I didn't go crazy like some of you folks have on account of I have to depend on nice overseas folks to carry my stuff in to India, but I ordered for these in the B&N sale. I already have the previous BD release of Peeping Tom from Studio Canal, so this time I thought I'd give the "other side" a chance :

[ben6543]

I wish Criterion would get the rights to the other Netflix animated movie Klaus. I've wanted to see that but don't have Netflix and that should be on physical media too.

[jedidarrick]

I know it would likely never happen, but while we're on the subject of Netflix, I would love for either Criterion or Shout Studios to put out I Think You Should Leave.