The Criterion Collection

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

And ALL 4Ks? I wasn’t expecting that. Do we dare hope this will be the new normal release strategy for Criterion now, bypassing the single film releases ONLY on Blu? It makes sense, I think. Didn’t expect it with a title like SCARFACE though.

All are coming to 4K, but not 4K only. Funny Girl, Paper Moon, and Scarface are all getting separate Blu-ray releases as well. November is not a normal month for Criterion. Since they started doing 4K releases, they've statistically released more 4K's in this month (and July, their other B&N sale month) than other months, so nothing can be gleaned from that.

[Poya]

I know this has been asked but a lot of these aren't HDR so why pick them up if the BD will be sufficient, cheaper, and with the same extras? Clarity you won't actually get to notice that much of?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Poya

I know this has been asked but a lot of these aren't HDR so why pick them up if the BD will be sufficient, cheaper, and with the same extras? Clarity you won't actually get to notice that much of?

Because in the case of the Toho films, the Blu-rays are from older scans and restorations, which the 4K releases should blow out the water, regardless of HDR or not.

[HenryHill]

Oh, my aching wallet! I'm getting all of them. Funny Girl, Paper Moon and Seven Samurai will be DVD upgrades and I only have The Shape of Water on digital. Buying Godzilla will be contingent on the 4K being a genuine restoration by Toho. To be honest, I'd have preferred a 4k release of Godzilla Minus Zero. which I think is even better than the original.

What an amazing month!

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by Poya

I know this has been asked but a lot of these aren't HDR so why pick them up if the BD will be sufficient, cheaper, and with the same extras? Clarity you won't actually get to notice that much of?

It’s not just clarity. It’s grain, it’s motion fluidity, it’s far better compression. You don’t even need a bigger screen to appreciate these qualities. (I don’t think the difference is so dramatic from an already clean digital source, but if there’s one thing 4k with a healthy bit-rate does well, it’s capturing the film feel of it all.)

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by Areyakiddin

Shape of Water already has a 4k release and adds just a short interview I believe.

That’s a fair point and I wasn’t aware of the 4k. I personally would’ve preferred Nightmare Alley, but they may feel that their relationship with Del Toro - and the opportunity to regularly put out Fox films as Bill Hunt reported today - might have made it worthwhile. I’m sure they figure having a best picture winner is a plus.

Not one of the ones I’ll pick up - and not just bc my wife hated it - but I can see some of the rationale. But if anyone wants to call this redundant, I won’t fight ‘em on it.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

All are coming to 4K, but not 4K only. Funny Girl, Paper Moon, and Scarface are all getting separate Blu-ray releases as well. November is not a normal month for Criterion. Since they started doing 4K releases, they've statistically released more 4K's in this month (and July, their other B&N sale month) than other months, so nothing can be gleaned from that.

I should have rephrased my question: I meant to ask do you think they will do anymore exclusively Blu releases now?

Do they still release DVDs?

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

Do they still release DVDs?

You can check their website:

Criterion.com

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by Number_6

I already preordered the BFI release of The Seven Samurai as I felt confident that it would be at least as good as the rumored Criterion release, if not just a tad bit better.

I'm still holding out hope for an eventual Kurosawa Box Set collection, even if by then we have movies formatted on our eyelids.

[Scottie]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

All are coming to 4K, but not 4K only. Funny Girl, Paper Moon, and Scarface are all getting separate Blu-ray releases as well. November is not a normal month for Criterion. Since they started doing 4K releases, they've statistically released more 4K's in this month (and July, their other B&N sale month) than other months, so nothing can be gleaned from that.

I genuinely wonder when they're going to stop BD only releases and shift to 4K + BD combo packs only.

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

You can check their website:

Criterion.com

Of course, but a forum is for conversation and socializing, not just going off alone and doing solitary research that can be done anytime, of course, and continues to lead all of us toward a limited, anti-social existence without any reactions or feedback or cordial human interaction.

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by dwk

Here is the laserdisc list

Again anyone spot mistakes let me know.

Wow that’s not too many 27 titles is a lot less than I expected that’s pretty small compared to the DVD list. Although, some of these titles literally have no chance, but that being said I definitely see Dead Presidents re-releasing on Blu-Ray and 4K next year from Criterion. I also definitely see Adams Rib, those three Hitchcock laserdisc titles, and a number of others on here also getting upgraded too at some point.

[joshinminn]

Man, Criterion has been on fire lately! The only one I already own is Godzilla in the Showa set. Not sure I need to upgrade that, as I'm not a die hard fan... But I will definitely pick up Paper Moon, The Shape of Water, and Seven Samurai in the November sale!

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by Brad1963

It cracks me up how much people ***** and moan about almost everything on this website. Not so long ago the main complaint about Criterion was the lack of UHD releases, then they started releasing them and it turned into the "what about...?" thread, now that they are steady in releasing and upgrading beloved titles everyone starts *****ing having them. I don't not know what every expects, but almost everything released this month was hinted at, and anticipated. For those indicating you have "Paper Moon" already from an import, well good for you, but us patient people waited for the anticipated Criterion release, and in 4k. If you have the Blu-ray already, well fine, but some of us are into UHD discs and welcome upgrades. Now get ready for the end of the month when Warner Archive announces a new batch, and let the complaining start all over again.

This is me I’m looking forward to literally all of these releases as I own none of them especially the Paper Moon, and Seven Samurai releases.

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by Scottie

I genuinely wonder when they're going to stop BD only releases and shift to 4K + BD combo packs only.

I think there will still be plenty of titles that either would be poor sellers on 4K, or have other technical limitations that don't make it feasible, so i think we'll still continue to see a fair share of Blu-ray only releases for years to come. If my calculations are correct, and including Janus Contemporary titles, we've seen around 26 Blu-ray only releases this year out of about 64 titles announced (excluding that CC40 set lol). So that's about 40% of their total output of titles right now.

1. About Dry Grasses
2. Afire
3. All That Breathes
4. All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
5. All That Money Can Buy
6. Anatomy of a Fall
7. Black God, White Devil
8. Brief Encounters / Long Farewell
9. Chantal Akerman Masterpieces
10. Dogfight
11. Eric Rohmer’s Tales of the Four Seasons
12. Floating Weeds / A Story of Floating Weeds
13. Girlfight
14. Lynch/Oz
15. Mudbound
16. Not a Pretty Picture
17. Nothing But a Man
18. Orlando: My Political Biography
19. Ousmane Sembène set
20. Pandora's Box
21. Querelle
22. The Runner
23. Saint Omer
24. Totem
25. The Underground Railroad
26. Victims of Sin

And since I made this list too, here are their 4K titles for the year

1. All of Us Strangers
2. Apu Trilogy
3. Blood Simple
4. Blue Velvet
5. Bound
6. Demon Pond
7. Doom Generation
8. Farewell My Concubine
9. Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
10. Funny Girl
11. Gojira
12. Gummo
13. Happiness
14. Heroic Trio / Executioners
15. I Am Cuba
16. I Walked with a Zombie / The Seventh Victim
17. La Haine
18. Le Samourai
19. Lone Star
20. McCabe & Mrs. Miller
21. Mother
22. Paper Moon
23. Pat Garrett and Bill the Kid
24. Peeping Tom
25. Perfect Days
26. Picnic at Hanging Rock
27. Real Life
28. Repo Man
29. Risky Business
30. Scarface (1932)
31. Seven Samurai
32. The Last Emperor
33. The Long Good Friday
34. The Roaring Twenties
35. The Shape of Water
36. To Die For
37. Trainspotting
38. Werckmeister Harmonies

(Bolded are Upgrades from either DVD or Blu-ray. Peeping Tom and Long Good Friday 4K's are two that went from DVD to 4K/BD. Titles released by Criterion on Laserdisc aren't counted. Also, I just eyeballed this, so I'm sure I missed something, or my counts are slightly off.)

[DimitriL]

Originally Posted by Professor Echo

I should have rephrased my question: I meant to ask do you think they will do anymore exclusively Blu releases now?

Do they still release DVDs?

Absolutely. If nothing else, it makes logistic sense - slots for UHD pressing are far harder to come upon than BD. If they can do a BD-only edition, it makes things easier.

AFAIK, their policy is still the same on DVDs - they will do a DVD if there’s not an existing in-print DVD on the market.

[Watershipdownisgood]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

I think there will still be plenty of titles that either would be poor sellers on 4K, or have other technical limitations that don't make it feasible, so i think we'll still continue to see a fair share of Blu-ray only releases for years to come. If my calculations are correct, and including Janus Contemporary titles, we've seen around 25 Blu-ray only releases this year out of about 63 titles announced (excluding that CC40 set lol). So that's a little over 1/3rd of their output for the year.

1. About Dry Grasses
2. Afire
3. All That Breathes
4. All the Beauty and the Bloodshed
5. All That Money Can Buy
6. Anatomy of a Fall
7. Black God, White Devil
8. Brief Encounters / Long Farewell
9. Chantal Akerman Masterpieces
10. Dogfight
11. Eric Rohmer’s Tales of the Four Seasons
12. Floating Weeds / A Story of Floating Weeds
13. Lynch/Oz
14. Mudbound
15. Not a Pretty Picture
16. Nothing But a Man
17. Orlando: My Political Biography
18. Ousmane Sembène set
19. Pandora's Box
20. Querelle
21. The Runner
22. Saint Omer
23. Totem
24. The Underground Railroad
25. Victims of Sin

All that Money Can Buy is selling like crazy ever since it came out in February like its insane I tried looking for a copy on Amazon, and they were only selling copies from third party sellers. I cannot believe how many copies of this old 30s film have gotten sold online.

[Crispy Noodle]

Originally Posted by HenryHill

Oh, my aching wallet! I'm getting all of them. Funny Girl, Paper Moon and Seven Samurai will be DVD upgrades and I only have The Shape of Water on digital. Buying Godzilla will be contingent on the 4K being a genuine restoration by Toho. To be honest, I'd have preferred a 4k release of Godzilla Minus Zero. which I think is even better than the original.

What an amazing month!

I have the Toho Japanese UHD of Godzilla, and if Criterion just uses that master it is a massive upgrade over the current Criterion blu-ray. And with English subtitles. (I can't really imagine them releasing anything inferior to that.)

Not sure why you would prefer Godzilla Minus One as Toho is releaseing multiple versions here in the States.

[hoytereden]

Originally Posted by dwk

These are the ones that I think haven't gotten Blu-rays in the US, I'm sure some have non-US Blu-rays, but I don't feel like doing the searching

[Show spoiler]31. Great Expectations
32. Oliver Twist
40. Armageddon (Director's Cut)
41. Henry V
42. Fishing with John
55. The Unbearable Lightness of Being
67. The Blood of a Poet
69. Testament of Orpheus
72. Le million
77. And God Created Woman
82. Hamlet
85. Pygmalion
87. Alexander Nevsky
88. Ivan the Terrible, Part I
88. Ivan the Terrible, Part II
92. Fiend without a ace
94. I Know Where I'm Going!
100. Beastie Boys Video Anthology
104. Double Suicide
106. Coup de torchon
113. Big Deal on Madonna Street
120. How to Get Ahead in Advertising
125. Day of Wrath
126. Ordet
127. Gertrud
128. Carl Th. Dreyer—My Metier
129. Le trou
130. The Shop on Main Street
131. Closely Watched Trains
132. The Ruling Class
142. The Last Wave
144. Loves of a Blonde
145. The Firemen's Ball
148. Ballad of a Soldier
154 The Horse's Mouth
158. The Importance of Being Earnest
159. Red Beard
160. À nous la liberté
161. Under the Roofs of Paris
165. Man Bites Dog
170. Trouble in Paradise
172. Pépé le moko
180. I Am Curious Yellow
181. I Am Curious Blue
183. Les dames du Bois de Boulogne
186. Stolen Kisses
187. Bed and Board
188. Love on the Run
191. Jubilee
192. Coup de grâce
194. Il posto
195. I fidanzati
199. Schizopolis
207. The Pornographers
215. Knife in the Water
222. Diary of a Country Prest
223. Maîtresse
228. Salvatore Giuliano
231. The Testament of Dr. Mabuse
233. Stray Dog
238. A Woman is a Woman
239. The Lower Depths (Renoir)/ The Lower Depths (Kurosawa)
240. Early Summer
243. Fench Cancan
244. Elena and Her Men
257. Secret Honor
258. Tanner '88
266. The King of Kings
268. Youth of the Beast
269. Figthing Elegy
270. Casque d'or
272. La commare secca
273. Thieves' Highway
275. Tout va bein
279. Young Törless
283. A Generation
284. Kanal
286. Divorce Italian Style
287. Burden of Dreams
292. Unfaithfully Yours
293. The Flowers of St. Francis
294. The Browning Version
295. Crazed Fruit
296. Le notti bianche
298. Gate of Flesh
299. Story of a Prostitute
303. Bad Timing
305. Boudu Saved from Drowning
310. Samurai Rebellion
311. Sword of the Beast
312. Samurai Spy
313. Kill!
315. Shoot the Piano Player
318. Forbidden Games
319. The Bad Sleep Well
322. The Compltete Mr. Arkadin
323. The Children Are Watching Us
324. La bête humaine
328. Murmur of the Heart
329. Lacombe, Lucien
332. Viridiana
334. Harlan County USA
337. À nos amours
338. Equinox
340. Koko: A Talking Gorilla
341. A Canterbuty tale
349. Kicking and Screaming
350. Seduced and Abandoned
351. The Spirit of the Beehive
352. Jigoku
353. Sólo con tu pareja
355. Hands over the City
357. The Fallen Idol
362. Border Radio
365. First Man into Space
366. The Atomic Submarine
367. The Haunted Strangler
368. Corridors of Blood
370. The Emperor Jones / Paul Robeson: Tribute to an Artist
371. Body and Soul / Borderline
372. Sanders of the River / Jericho
373. The PRoud Valley / Native Land
375. Green for Danger
376. 49th Parallel
377. When a Woman Ascends the Stairs
378. Fires on the Plain
379. The Burmese Harp
389. WR: Mysteries of the Organism
390. Sweet Movie
393. Pitfall
395. The Face of Another
398. Les enfants terribles
403. Cría cuervos . . .
405. The Threepenny Opera
406. Martha Graham: Dance on Film
407. Mala Noche
410. Under the Volcano
413. Drunken angel
416. Miss Julie
417. This Sporting Life
424. Mafioso
427. Death of a Cyclist
429. The Lovers
430. The Fire Within
431. The Thief of Bagdad
433. Patriotism
434. Classe tous risques
436. Before the Rain
438. Mon oncle Antoine
440. Brand upon the Brain!
441. The Small Back Room
442. Twenty-Four Eyes
443. La ronde
444. Le plaisir
448. Le deuxième souffle
449. Missing
451. Fanfan la Tulipe
455. White Dog
456. The Taking of Power by Louis XIV
460. Simon of the Desert
461. Hobson's Choice
464. Danton
465. Dodes'ka-den
467. Empire of Passion
468. Science Is Fiction: 23 Films by Jean Painlevé
470. Wise Blood
472. Pigs and Battleships
474. Intentions of Murder
481. Made in U.S.A.
482. 2 or 3 Things I Know About Her
473. The Insect Woman
486. Homicide
487. That Hamilton Woman
491. Z
495. The Golden Age of Television
506. Dillinger is Dead
509. Ossos
510. In Vanda’s Room
511. Colossal Youth
525. The Only Son
526. There Was a Father
532. Louie Bluie
534. L’enfance nue

I think everything after 534. L’enfance nue has been released on Blu-ray. If I made any mistakes, please let me know.

If only that CC40 set had been 40 of these titles…

[Professor Echo]

Originally Posted by Watershipdownisgood

All that Money Can Buy is selling like crazy ever since it came out in February like its insane I tried looking for a copy on Amazon, and they were only selling copies from third party sellers. I cannot believe how many copies of this old 30s film have gotten sold online.

I would have loved to get that one in 4K as it's such a visual stunner. A lot of other ones that are on that Blu only list too. Oh well.