The Criterion Collection - Page 1149 - Blu-ray Forum

SpiderBaby · 12-30-2010, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

Plus, they won't release The Last Movie, so that proves it.

How do you know? They e-mail you?

ZoetMB · 12-30-2010, 03:25 AM

Geez...what's with all the complaints?

First of all, a company like Criterion can release only so many titles per year. There's a lot to managing these releases - the creation of the extras, the remastering, packaging etc.

Beyond that there are tons of rights issues. And especially on the films they already have on DVD, they don't necessarily have the explicit rights to also do the Blu release. And even when they do, there may be new advances, guarantees or backend participations that have to be paid. This is all very complex and can be very expensive for them and certainly affect cash flow.

Furthermore, if you look at the best selling Blu titles, you'll find that once you're down to the 4th or 5th bestselling title, it's selling only 15-20% of the #1 title. And once you get down to the 10th title, it's selling only 5% or less of the bestselling title. Criterion's titles are almost never on the list at all. So they're simply not selling that many titles in Blu format.

So let's cut them some slack. As the Blu market grows (which, in $, is currently only 15% of the overall market for physical video media), they'll be able to release more titles. Not every title has to be released right now just because you're too impatient to wait. But there's also a downside to a growing market: when the Blu market becomes substantial, studios who can release and market titles effectively on their own are going to be less likely to license the titles to Criterion.

connelly13 · 12-30-2010, 03:25 AM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Positive about anything? Get the f out of here. If you can read through the crappy Finch and the Lynch crap from yesterday, I made positive statements about a cover artist (Neil Kellerhouse) and a film (The Howl). Just because I don't wet my pants over the "surreal" of Mr. Lynch from yesterday, you couldn't see my positive posts?

Yes but those posts coincided with an avatar change so I can hardly be blamed.

BasicGreatGuy · 12-30-2010, 03:28 AM

Excellent points Zoe.

SpiderBaby · 12-30-2010, 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by connelly13

Yes but those posts coincided with an avatar change so I can hardly be blamed.

Now your just giving s*** about me personally and not Criterion. "So I can hardly be blamed"! ha ha ha in a snobby way. Nobody said to attack me for giving an opinion on Criterion.

Too bad I changed my avatar to a film I like and not something an IMDB list told me about. F you CG for doing that. You keep your mouth shut about Criterion.

connelly13 · 12-30-2010, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Now your just giving s*** about me personally and not Criterion. "So I can hardly be blamed"! ha ha ha in a snobby way. Nobody said to attack me for giving an opinion on Criterion.

Too bad I changed my avatar to a film I like and not something an IMDB list told me about. F you CG for doing that. You keep your mouth shut about Criterion.

The implication being people can't like movies on IMDB lists?

BasicGreatGuy · 12-30-2010, 03:38 AM

Beta Man · 12-30-2010, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

That's fine. Not talking for anybody but myself anyways. Not too hard to think they are holding back titles now they went all blu.

WHEW! That was close......

Someone woke up on the wrong vertical axis of the mistle-toe.

TJS_Blu · 12-30-2010, 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Would that be a guess like mine? Naw, because your not getting s*** for it from blu-ray and Criterion fanboys.

Could it be that I'm not getting s-star-star-star, because there have been not one but many instances where blu-ray rights have had f-star-star-star-all to do with delays? Maybe?

I'm such a f-star-star-star-ing humanitarian, I hope they do release The Last Movie in either and/or both formats, not, as you may suppose, just to shut you up, but because I like to see my lil droogies happy, but the conspiracy theory formation you should leave to the the pro's, capiche?

keldons · 12-30-2010, 03:43 AM

For those interested: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is about to come on the Sundance Channel. They also played Diary of a Chambermaid, but I missed it and now it's over.

Also A+ for that picture Beta.

Beta Man · 12-30-2010, 03:48 AM

Thanks for reminding me that my Satellite service sucks

Fortunately I didn't skimp on the Bunuel in the collection...... I prefer to watch "mush" on T.V. while I browse the forum at night..... keeps me "snarky"

painted_klown · 12-30-2010, 03:50 AM

I just got done watching the Criterion DVD of How to get ahead in advertising. I must say that I found it to be quite funny and really enjoyed Grants performance as Bagley. He is a very intelligent and funny character who really does know how advertising works.

I knew this film was considered satire but I found plenty of parts to be laugh out loud funny as well. Pure comedy in every sense. If there are any negatives, my two complaints are:

1.That during the second half of the film, the comedy takes a back seat as the boil begins to take over completely after the surgery.
To me, part of the comedy came from Bagley trying to be normal with his situation going on. Although the tide was turned when HE beacme the boil, so to speak, the movie never really get back into full-on comedy mode.

2. Also, the ending wasn't quite satisfying for me. I felt that absolutely nothing was actually resolved...the movie just leaves us hanging with another rant about advertising...

Having said all that, I did enjoy the film and would give it 2.5/4 stars and I would recommend it to friends for some good laughs and a movie with a truly unique twist on the "man goes crazy from stress" story.

TJS_Blu · 12-30-2010, 03:56 AM

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Originally Posted by keldons

For those interested: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is about to come on the Sundance Channel.

Discreet Charm is the only Bunuel I've ever seen. About 15 years ago. And I hated it.

I keep meaning to see something else of his, cos he's obviously a good soul and a fellow traveler.

Schonfelder · 12-30-2010, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by basicgreatguy

+1

keldons · 12-30-2010, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

Discreet Charm is the only Bunuel I've ever seen. About 15 years ago. And I hated it.

I keep meaning to see something else of his, cos he's obviously a good soul and a fellow traveler.

I just watched it and it was pretty alright. I am too tired to type anything much more comprehensive than that.

Question: Does anyone think we will get a blu set of The Human Condition anytime? I noticed it was released last year when Criterion was still easing into Blu releases, so I'm wondering if they just didn't want to invest in putting out a huge release like that when they were still testing the waters. Would be a great release.

BluPat · 12-30-2010, 07:27 AM

I know it's probably been mentioned a million times but, can you order Criterion size Blu-ray cases from them directly? The clear, PS3 size cases.

ShellOilJunior · 12-30-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by BluPat

I know it's probably been mentioned a million times but, can you order Criterion size Blu-ray cases from them directly? The clear, PS3 size cases.

Hate to do this but you know the drill:

http://www.criterion.com

ccfixx · 12-30-2010, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by BluPat

I know it's probably been mentioned a million times but, can you order Criterion size Blu-ray cases from them directly? The clear, PS3 size cases.

As far as I know, you have to specifically order the "replacement cases," which would come with another films cover art. I'm not aware of Criterion having the plastic blu-ray cases lying around specifically for selling to the public, but they probably do. Outside of the replacement cases, I've only been able to obtain a case for Charade because my case and artwork had arrived damaged. You'll just have to e-mail them and ask them, I suppose.

CC

Beta Man · 12-30-2010, 12:29 PM

Posted in the deals forum, thought I'd pass it along here:

B&N (in-store and online) has a 25% off code if you use a Mastercard:

Non-Members: E4A4D3W
Members: R3W4E7L

America Lost & Found: The BBS Story: $62.49 - 25% = $46.86

Free shipping.... add tax.

blkhrt · 12-30-2010, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Posted in the deals forum, thought I'd pass it along here:

B&N (in-store and online) has a 25% off code if you use a Mastercard:

Non-Members: E4A4D3W
Members: R3W4E7L

America Lost & Found: The BBS Story: $62.49 - 25% = $46.86

Free shipping.... add tax.

Oooohhhh...that's getting really tempting. Especially if you add in 8% cash back through ebates.

12-30-2010, 03:43 AM	#22970
keldons Expert Member Member since:Dec 2009	For those interested: The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is about to come on the Sundance Channel. They also played Diary of a Chambermaid, but I missed it and now it's over. Also A+ for that picture Beta. Last edited by keldons; 12-30-2010 at 03:49 AM.

12-30-2010, 03:50 AM	#22972
painted_klown Expert Member Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Posting Unpopular Opinions 4K collection:1 Blu-ray collection:1 Trading Score:23	I just got done watching the Criterion DVD of How to get ahead in advertising. I must say that I found it to be quite funny and really enjoyed Grants performance as Bagley. He is a very intelligent and funny character who really does know how advertising works. I knew this film was considered satire but I found plenty of parts to be laugh out loud funny as well. Pure comedy in every sense. If there are any negatives, my two complaints are: 1.That during the second half of the film, the comedy takes a back seat as the boil begins to take over completely after the surgery. To me, part of the comedy came from Bagley trying to be normal with his situation going on. Although the tide was turned when HE beacme the boil, so to speak, the movie never really get back into full-on comedy mode. 2. Also, the ending wasn't quite satisfying for me. I felt that absolutely nothing was actually resolved...the movie just leaves us hanging with another rant about advertising... Having said all that, I did enjoy the film and would give it 2.5/4 stars and I would recommend it to friends for some good laughs and a movie with a truly unique twist on the "man goes crazy from stress" story. Last edited by painted_klown; 12-30-2010 at 03:56 AM.

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12-30-2010, 03:25 AM	#22962
ZoetMB Blu-ray Ninja Member since:May 2009 Location:New York Blu-ray collection:172 DVD collection:27 Blu-ray reviews: 3	Geez...what's with all the complaints? First of all, a company like Criterion can release only so many titles per year. There's a lot to managing these releases - the creation of the extras, the remastering, packaging etc. Beyond that there are tons of rights issues. And especially on the films they already have on DVD, they don't necessarily have the explicit rights to also do the Blu release. And even when they do, there may be new advances, guarantees or backend participations that have to be paid. This is all very complex and can be very expensive for them and certainly affect cash flow. Furthermore, if you look at the best selling Blu titles, you'll find that once you're down to the 4th or 5th bestselling title, it's selling only 15-20% of the #1 title. And once you get down to the 10th title, it's selling only 5% or less of the bestselling title. Criterion's titles are almost never on the list at all. So they're simply not selling that many titles in Blu format. So let's cut them some slack. As the Blu market grows (which, in $, is currently only 15% of the overall market for physical video media), they'll be able to release more titles. Not every title has to be released right now just because you're too impatient to wait. But there's also a downside to a growing market: when the Blu market becomes substantial, studios who can release and market titles effectively on their own are going to be less likely to license the titles to Criterion.

12-30-2010, 03:28 AM	#22964
BasicGreatGuy Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Atlanta - SteelBooks™: 16 Blu-ray collection:320 Trading Score:31	Excellent points Zoe.

12-30-2010, 03:38 AM	#22967
BasicGreatGuy Power Member Top contributor Member since:Mar 2010 Location:Atlanta - SteelBooks™: 16 Blu-ray collection:320 Trading Score:31

12-30-2010, 03:48 AM	#22971
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Thanks for reminding me that my Satellite service sucks Fortunately I didn't skimp on the Bunuel in the collection...... I prefer to watch "mush" on T.V. while I browse the forum at night..... keeps me "snarky"

12-30-2010, 07:27 AM	#22976
BluPat Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Texas 4K collection:241 Blu-ray collection:1455 Blu-ray reviews: 80 Trading Score:4	I know it's probably been mentioned a million times but, can you order Criterion size Blu-ray cases from them directly? The clear, PS3 size cases.

12-30-2010, 12:29 PM	#22979
Beta Man Moderator Top contributor Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Juuuuuuuust A Bit Outside.... Home Theater Gallery:4 Blu-ray collection:268 Blu-ray reviews: 18 Trading Score:25	Posted in the deals forum, thought I'd pass it along here: B&N (in-store and online) has a 25% off code if you use a Mastercard: Non-Members: E4A4D3W Members: R3W4E7L America Lost & Found: The BBS Story: $62.49 - 25% = $46.86 Free shipping.... add tax.

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