The Criterion Collection

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

It's fine for you to expect more at certain prices etc..... but I don't know what your personal purchasing threshold has to do with Criterion's business model....


If the majority of the films they were releasing were widely appealing, popular hits and summer blockbusters etc.... then I would expect them to all include action figures, models Digital copies, DVDs, etc... but the fact is.... they typically move a lot less units, and the cost of having someone do the artwork, buying their proprietary cases, having the restoration and transfer done, and Jon Mulvaney's salary, expense account and corporate Prius is very high, so they have to sell a certain number to "break even" I'm sure if they sold 5X as many of each film in their catalog, they would offer up more frequent sales codes etc.... but they can't just give their product away......

The alternative, is you have other studios pick up some of these films.... you've seen the care and detail other studios put into "Spartacus" and "Ran" How much effort do you suppose they'd put into "House" and "Robinson Crusoe on Mars" ???

You get what you pay for I guess..... you just have to realize that you're paying for the ability to pick up many films that may not be on the radar of other studios, and you're getting them delivered with a lot of care and detail..... The packaging is just...... "packaging"

What? Apples and oranges. Criterions have a set price which has nothing to do with the rights, extras, rarity or the film or the restoration done. The only difference seems to the be number of discs.

They market themselves specifically as a premium product. I'm not even complaining, but if people are paying for a premium product, they have every right to say the product isn't premium enough.

They aren't just paying for what you say they are

[Mr. Arkadin]

I'll definitely will be purchasing Something Wild (along with many of the Criterions I've wanted for awhile)--an unexpected delight when it was announced for May!

[iam1bearcat]

Woot woot. Last Year at Marienbad arrived in the digipack and not the plastic case today

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by iam1bearcat

Woot woot.

Woot Woot????

Now I'm looking over my shoulder for Reuben Patterson!

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I haven't seen that one in a plastic case "in the wild" yet.

Me either.

[Jr7936]

in case anyone is wondering I saw that netflix still has third man criterion collection blu rays to rent

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by Jr7936

in case anyone is wondering I saw that netflix still has third man criterion collection blu rays to rent

Used copies on Amazon are listing for $89 dollars and up. Ebay isn't much better. I wonder how high this movie is going to get. I would think at some point, sellers are going to price themselves out of the consumer market with this movie.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by BasicGreatGuy

Used copies on Amazon are listing for $89 dollars and up. Ebay isn't much better. I wonder how high this movie is going to get. I would think at some point, sellers are going to price themselves out of the consumer market with this movie.

After the consumer market..... what is there?

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

After the consumer market..... what is there?

True. lol I went out of my way to be specific, lest someone misunderstand me. Point taken. lol

[Jr7936]

I though I read that someone contacted criterion for a case for the third man not 2 long ago and they were able to get it sent to them

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

After the consumer market..... what is there?

Other speculators

[BasicGreatGuy]

Originally Posted by Jr7936

I though I read that someone contacted criterion for a case for the third man not 2 long ago and they were able to get it sent to them

Jon Mulvaney told me in an email recently, what I just shared with you. I was going to make a used purchase on Ebay for a local friend and it didn't have the booklet. I emailed Jon about it and he told me I was out of luck, so I didn't make the purchase.

[BasicGreatGuy]

Less than 168 hours to go, until "Sweet Smell of Success" and "Senso." arrive.

[ccfixx]

This article was posted over at criterionforum.org about Criterion, Hulu, & Netlfix...

CHUD.com

Dear Jeremy,

Thanks for your email!

Hulu will have exclusive streaming rights to our films and so all of the films that are currently on Netflix streaming will be down by the end of the year.

We love Netflix, and they are still one of Criterion’s most important partners, but Hulu demonstrated a real commitment to the Criterion brand that persuaded us they would be the better home base for our streaming efforts. It has never been easy to find Criterion movies on Netflix — “Criterion” is not even a searchable term there. Compare that with Hulu’s willingness to develop a whole area of their site around us, brand the films associated with us, and develop the capability to show many of our supplements alongside our films. The energetic, independent, creative team at Hulu was willing to build their business around us in a way that just wasn’t in the cards anywhere else.

We will continue to support Netflix on the package goods side and continue to work with them to provide DVD and BD copies of the films we release.

I hope this information is helpful! Please let me know if you have any more questions and thanks for supporting Criterion!

Best,

Jon Mulvaney

So, it appears you guys that are dependent on Netflix to stream Criterion movies before buying them better start increasing the amount you watch.

CC

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

So, it appears you guys that are depending on Netflix to stream Criterion movies before buying them better start increasing the amount you watch.

CC

Rkish!!!

[Battra92]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

This article was posted over at criterionforum.org about Criterion, Hulu, & Netlfix...

CHUD.com



So, it appears you guys that are depending on Netflix to stream Criterion movies before buying them better start increasing the amount you watch.

CC

Meh, kind of bad news but I'm lucky that I've already seen a good portion of the Criterions I want to buy. He is right on searching Netflix though. Their streaming searches (at least on the PS3) is rather horrid.

Guess one of these days I'll have to get around to seeing The Red Shoes.

On a side note, one Criterion I'd like to see on BD would be The Most Dangerous Game. I can think of a good amount of extras to include (various radio versions of the story, information connecting it to Kong etc.)

[ccfixx]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Rkish!!!

Beautiful!

That should get his attention.

CC

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Rkish!!!

Beta, now that is a funny way to start my day.

[TheCurse]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I don't think they typically have replacement booklets for out of print titles, but they do still have the replacement cases.

I can confirm.

I received a replacement case for "The Third Man" from Criterion three weeks ago but didn't ask for a booklet.

[Variable_Star]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

This article was posted over at criterionforum.org about Criterion, Hulu, & Netlfix...

I saw the news yesterday, and it's difficult to get excited about Criterion getting in bed with Hulu. I'm particularly amused at how Hulu Plus users must pay $10 a month and they still have to watch a smattering of ads before each feature. I refuse to do that. Even on cable, I DVR everything so I can avoid them. There's no question Netflix didn't properly present their films, because as they pointed out, you can't even search on the term Criterion. Oh well, I'll just reactivate physical media on my Netflix plan. Hulu seems like it's giving the brand the respect it deserves, so this seems like a good business move. Hope it works out well for Criterion!