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Pyoko · 04-09-2011, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

And since it's been vastly improved upon, according to the review, what's you're gripe now? Some people just love to *****. It's getting embarrassing and honestly ridiculous... maybe u should stop buying blu-rays altogether.

My gripe is releasing something that's already been released without significantly improving upon the existing edition and then charging $30 for it (and anything less than a new transfer is not significant.) Maybe they should stop wasting plastic on releases that aren't even close to utilizing the full potential of Blu-ray, especially when it's already been done once.

But then I don't put any value at all in extras. Maybe there's something there that alone makes it a worthwhile release for people.

Rizor · 04-09-2011, 02:09 PM

The video looks disappointing, but Criterion's major limitation is they need to work with what they're given. Still, it looks less processed than Universal's release.

Unfortunately, this doesn't look too good for Spartacus and Brazil.

SlickDamian · 04-09-2011, 02:15 PM

Fear and Loathing is a great (misunderstood) film. The screenshots look great, and the review says it is improved from the Universal release. There are a lot of very nice Criterion extras as well. So, if someone is a fan of this film, then I see absolutely no reason to complain about this release.

TheDot · 04-09-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian

Fear and Loathing is a great (misunderstood) film. The screenshots look great, and the review says it is improved from the Universal release. There are a lot of very nice Criterion extras as well. So, if someone is a fan of this film, then I see absolutely no reason to complain about this release.

I've wanted this on Blu, but held off on the decent looking Universal release because I love the extras on my Criterion.

When this was announced I expected a transfer at least the level of Universal, and all the Criterion extras. This has it all, so I shall be buying

What did people expect?

Presence · 04-09-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by cms382

Got my first one today!

My first as well, got it last week.

yojoeski · 04-09-2011, 03:50 PM

Sad news to report this morning. Sidney Lumet has passed away.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni9435018/

greekak229 · 04-09-2011, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yojoeski

Sad news to report this morning. Sidney Lumet has passed away.

http://www.imdb.com/news/ni9435018/

Oh my.

Beta Man · 04-09-2011, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by benbess

I don't suppose there's any way for us to suggest a film to Criterion, is there?

You can go to their site, and send them an email. I think it's in their FAQs

As far as Fear And Loathing is concerned..... I am always willing to pay for 'marginal' improvement... and it looks like the Audio really shines on this, so I'm excited for that..... I didn't buy the first release, so that makes my decision a lot easier.

JediFonger · 04-09-2011, 05:18 PM

since i've seen fear and loathing (shocker i know), i believe original print already had a lot of 'filtered lens' look. it can look processed... but director's intent was to make the whole 'trip' druggy. obviously he succeeded. pretty sure the film negative is fairly in line w/original film debut. do we really expect 4k/8k super duper transfers every single film nowadays? that to me is totally unrealistic given that universal/criterion are for profit biz FIRST, not film preservationist first.

anyways... i don't see what the dealeo w/the film negative is, but universal's BD transfer/encoding process leaves a LOT to be desired. i imagine a monkey randomly banging on the studio panels and their engineers doing a lot of 'auto' transferring w/the DI. they just don't pay enough attention to detail that Criterion would. it's why i've held off on many Universal catalogue (SPartacus, i'm looking at you) until a proper one is released.

42041 · 04-09-2011, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by JediFonger

do we really expect 4k/8k super duper transfers every single film nowadays?

no, but for a fairly popular and recent film that was already released in HD twice, i don't think that's unreasonable...

i've seen this movie on both HD formats and i can't see much of a difference.

benbess · 04-09-2011, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Beta Man

You can go to their site, and send them an email. I think it's in their FAQs

....

Beta: Thanks. Sent an email in suggesting some Hitchcock.

SpiderBaby · 04-09-2011, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by benbess

Beta: Thanks. Sent an email in suggesting some Hitchcock.

Make sure you don't override my daily Hopper request (just kidding, I don't do it daily.).

McCrutchy · 04-09-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by rezpekt

DFI will release Dreyer's Love One Another (1922) & The Bride of Glomdal (1926) on Blu-ray!

Excellent news!

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Originally Posted by silentblu

Any word on a date?

Sorry, I'm not available right now...

[Show spoiler]

pro-bassoonist · 04-09-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyoko

...and canceled.

Same mediocre source as the Universal release with only perhaps some extremely minor tweaks. What a waste of a release in my opinion.

Quick clarification: The same master, not the same transfer.

Pro-B

benbess · 04-09-2011, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

Make sure you don't override my daily Hopper request (just kidding, I don't do it daily.).

What's your "Hopper" request?

PS Here's a thought, we could put as our avatars films that we'd like Criterion to do....

I'd need to change mine though. Although Man 2 would look great on blu (VistaVision!), it's owned by Universal, and they seem too greedy and too dim to let something like that happen. But maybe I'm wrong. Has Universal ever let Criterion do one of their films?

Now Rebecca, which is another favorite of mine is, I think, owned by MGM. Criterion did a release of it several years ago on DVD, and so maybe it could happen again on blu-ray.

greekak229 · 04-09-2011, 09:01 PM

Fear and Loathing will be a definite pick up for me. Glad I didn't pick up the Universal release when it first came out.

benbess · 04-09-2011, 09:02 PM

What studio owns Blow Out?

greekak229 · 04-09-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by benbess

What studio owns Blow Out?

MGM, I believe.

fdm · 04-09-2011, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 42041

no, but for a fairly popular and recent film that was already released in HD twice, i don't think that's unreasonable...

i've seen this movie on both HD formats and i can't see much of a difference.

I'm no big fan of the film fwiw, but the review reads to me like you should see a difference with the Criterion version. How big a difference will depend on your equipment and how it's set up and how much of a difference there actually ends up being in reality. Sounds like it will be better than either of the ones you've seen. Whether worth the bother, hard to say. I'm curious to see how the dvdbeaver comparisons turn out.

(And yeah, I sure hope if/when Criterion gets a shot at Spartacus that the master they end up with to start from is worth the bother, i.e., they are able to make a substantial improvement over the current blu-ray travesty.)

ChadFL · 04-09-2011, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SlickDamian

Fear and Loathing is a great (misunderstood) film. The screenshots look great, and the review says it is improved from the Universal release. There are a lot of very nice Criterion extras as well. So, if someone is a fan of this film, then I see absolutely no reason to complain about this release.

Back in college it was more or less a movie I watched when drunk and/or stoned. I think that's how most casual viewers view the film. Since then I've grown to respect it more as a true film.

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04-09-2011, 02:09 PM	#28242
Rizor Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Jun 2008 Location:NJ, USA 4K collection:1602 Blu-ray collection:6185 DVD collection:192 MA collection:73 Digital collection:51 iTunes collection:29 Prime collection:7 Blu-ray reviews: 32 Trading Score:159	The video looks disappointing, but Criterion's major limitation is they need to work with what they're given. Still, it looks less processed than Universal's release. Unfortunately, this doesn't look too good for Spartacus and Brazil.

04-09-2011, 02:15 PM	#28243
SlickDamian Expert Member Member since:Sep 2010 Location:Canada 4K collection:4 Blu-ray collection:642 DVD collection:160	Fear and Loathing is a great (misunderstood) film. The screenshots look great, and the review says it is improved from the Universal release. There are a lot of very nice Criterion extras as well. So, if someone is a fan of this film, then I see absolutely no reason to complain about this release.

04-09-2011, 03:50 PM	#28246
yojoeski Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:609	Sad news to report this morning. Sidney Lumet has passed away. http://www.imdb.com/news/ni9435018/

04-09-2011, 05:18 PM	#28249
JediFonger Blu-ray Guru Member since:Nov 2009 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:1350 DVD collection:144 Digital collection:1 Trading Score:47	since i've seen fear and loathing (shocker i know), i believe original print already had a lot of 'filtered lens' look. it can look processed... but director's intent was to make the whole 'trip' druggy. obviously he succeeded. pretty sure the film negative is fairly in line w/original film debut. do we really expect 4k/8k super duper transfers every single film nowadays? that to me is totally unrealistic given that universal/criterion are for profit biz FIRST, not film preservationist first. anyways... i don't see what the dealeo w/the film negative is, but universal's BD transfer/encoding process leaves a LOT to be desired. i imagine a monkey randomly banging on the studio panels and their engineers doing a lot of 'auto' transferring w/the DI. they just don't pay enough attention to detail that Criterion would. it's why i've held off on many Universal catalogue (SPartacus, i'm looking at you) until a proper one is released.

04-09-2011, 09:01 PM	#28256
greekak229 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:May 2009 Location:Los Angeles 4K collection:2 Blu-ray collection:1361 DVD collection:3 Blu-ray reviews: 8	Fear and Loathing will be a definite pick up for me. Glad I didn't pick up the Universal release when it first came out.

04-09-2011, 09:02 PM	#28257
benbess Blu-ray Guru Member since:Aug 2009 Location:Louisville, KY Blu-ray reviews: 65	What studio owns Blow Out?

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