The Criterion Collection

[puffyrock2]

Watched Rushmore tonight. I had actually never seen it. Loved it! Awesome movie. Amazing picture and sound. Really enjoyed the Charlie Rose interview. I paid 28 bucks on Amazon because I did not want to wait 6 months for another half off sale.

[DLizzle]

Originally Posted by cstle

Criterion admits their fine-grain print for Harakiri had a shredded edge:

Why didn't they try to obtain the Shochiku master instead of shoving a transfer from a damaged print onto BD?

It's amazing that you chose to pull THIS detail from that post.

[Eny-]

Joe Dalek, well put.

This is an issue that it's so minimal that I don't even bother to discuss it.

One thing is going against the OAR, another is missing an inch of the picture that goes unnoticed while watching the movie. I'm with Criterion here. The pros are greater than the only con.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Todd_Gaines

It is fairly obvious that the 3 most controversial Criterion BD's are: In the Realm of the Senses, Salo, & Antichrist. I have only seen In the Realm of the Senses and I think it was an artistic masterpiece way ahead of its time. It made me fall for Oshima and I can't wait to watch more of his films. However I am hesitate to view both Salo & Antichrist. I don't know really why because I am not easily offended and I am a very open-minded person. Is there any reason why I should or should not watch either of them?

Like I said once, I think it may depend at what age you are when seeing them. I always suspected that if I saw Salo back 25 years ago in college it would have been different then seeing it in my 40's. I think that sometimes as we get a bit older certain things offend us in ways they would not have when we were younger. Of course I speak for myself on this, everyone is different.

So at this point after reading about Antichrist, I am not sure I want to see it, I may yet but right now it's looking more and more like I probably won't be.

To complete the example, In The Realm Of The Senses, I saw in my 20's back in the 80's and I actually own it on DVD and enjoy it. I did not make the upgrade to Blu-ray like the others, maybe I will at one point.

[Eny-]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Like I said once, I think it may depend at what age you are when seeing them. I always suspected that if I saw Salo back 25 years ago in college it would have been different then seeing it in my 40's. I think that sometimes as we get a bit older certain things offend us in ways they would not have when we were younger. Of course I speak for myself on this, everyone is different.

So at this point after reading about Antichrist, I am not sure I want to see it, I may yet but right now it's looking more and more like I probably won't be.

To complete the example, In The Realm Of The Senses, I saw in my 20's back in the 80's and I actually own it on DVD and enjoy it. I did not make the upgrade to Blu-ray like the others, maybe I will at one point.

You should watch Antichrist. It's an awesome movie, though depressing. It's shocking (?) at times but not Salò shocking. I can easily watch both In the Realm of the Senses and Antichrist. Salò is a different beast.

I really think you are missing out on Antichrist. I wouldn't say the same about Salò.

[cstle]

Even though I know the post wasn't directed towards me -- I will respond anyways!

I actually didn't care about the cropping much. Theatrically, movies aren't shown in the exact same ratio because projectionists are different and so forth. However, if there was a master transferred from an undamaged source with more of the frame intact, I would rather they use that, ideally.

My main problem with the Criterion Harakiri is that it looks like crud. The blacks are crushed and whites are blown out, the grain is far too harsh -- that along with the damage sounds like they got a shit deal for their money. Crushed blacks and blown out whites often mean poor digital modifications but Criterion really doesn't do that (they modify contrast as you can see by comparing to other releases, but it almost always is for the better and does not look like their Harakiri release) so I'm more inclined to blame it on their print (crushed blacks and blown out whites also happen on poorly made prints from what I've read) which sounds like.. a bad print.

No offense taken. I have zero problems with the High and Low BD for instance -- but Harakiri just seems like it could've been handled far far better.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Eny-

You should watch Antichrist. It's an awesome movie, though depressing. It's shocking (?) at times but not Salò shocking. I can easily watch both In the Realm of the Senses and Antichrist. Salò is a different beast.

I really think you are missing out on Antichrist. I wouldn't say the same about Salò.

I may still see it at one point. The one thing playing against me is that I never was much into the type of horror movie Antichrist seen to be. I like funny horror like Evil Dead or stuff like classic monsters (Dracula, Frakenstein...) but the type of psychological horror like Antichrist never attracted me much.

It's possible once its on a movie channel I will DVR it and watch it in full daylight with all the lights on just out of curiosity since the movie is getting a lot of buzz from many of you here.

[Eny-]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I may still see it at one point. The one thing playing against me is that I never was much into the type of horror movie Antichrist seen to be. I like funny horror like Evil Dead or stuff like classic monsters (Dracula, Frakenstein...) but the type of psychological horror like Antichrist never attracted me much.

It's possible once its on a movie channel I will DVR it and watch it in full daylight with all the lights on just out of curiosity since the movie is getting a lot of buzz from many of you here.

It's far from horror/scary (Exorcist; Ring...), unless you put psychological horror in the same plain. To simplify it one can say that the "shocking" parts are taken out from the Saw movies and the psychological drainage from Mystic River eg.

[exolstice]

Antichrist is a beautiful film punctuated with some shocking moments, but it's not as bad as I was expecting, nowhere near.

[Beta Man]

It was either a random error..... or for the first time in a LONG time, I actually 'needed' to update my firmware.

I popped in "Blue" from Three Colors, and after selecting the option to play the film, it went to a gray screen, and I waited, but no whacky C, or "Janus" logo was forthcoming. It froze my player, and I had to unplug it and reconnect it in order to re-boot, and then it did it again. This time I was able to exit out of the Blu-ray though, and proceeded to update the firmware, it re-booted, and then played immediately when prompted.

I guess I either haven't bought many new films lately, or the frequency of how often the player has required a firmware update has decreased, because I think the last time I updated the firmware on this particular player, was when I bought it (as a replacement to another one) about a year ago.


"Blue" is mesmerizing of course.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by Eny-

It's far from horror/scary (Exorcist; Ring...), unless you put psychological horror in the same plain. To simplify it one can say that the "shocking" parts are taken out from the Saw movies and the psychological drainage from Mystic River eg.

I think stuff like Antichrist would scare me more then slasher movies or blood all over the screen.

[mikesncc1701]

Thought I'd share a pic of my updated Criterion Collection after the recent B&N sale. On another note I watched Kiss Me Deadly as soon as it came in the other day and absolutely loved it. One of the toughest noirs I've ever seen.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

I think stuff like Antichrist would scare me more then slasher movies or blood all over the screen.

Slasher films bore me, or if they're really bad, make me laugh. John Waters films have never bothered me, except for the end of Pink Flamingos, and even then, I knew it was coming and just closed my eyes.

A film like Antichrist would make me sick. I became physically ill and started gagging while watching Caligula, so Salo and Antichrist aren't films I care to see.

[dwane5]

Originally Posted by eny-

you should watch antichrist. It's an awesome movie, though depressing. It's shocking (?) at times but not salò shocking. I can easily watch both in the realm of the senses and antichrist. Salò is a different beast.

I really think you are missing out on antichrist. I wouldn't say the same about salò.

+1

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

A film like Antichrist would make me sick. I became physically ill and started gagging while watching Caligula, so Salo and Antichrist aren't films I care to see.

I will very likely see it at one point, my curiosity will just not be able to stay away from it

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by Todd_Gaines

It is fairly obvious that the 3 most controversial Criterion BD's are: In the Realm of the Senses, Salo, & Antichrist. I have only seen In the Realm of the Senses and I think it was an artistic masterpiece way ahead of its time. It made me fall for Oshima and I can't wait to watch more of his films. However I am hesitate to view both Salo & Antichrist. I don't know really why because I am not easily offended and I am a very open-minded person. Is there any reason why I should or should not watch either of them?

I'm pretty sure the most controversial Criterion blu-rays are the Wes Andersons. Even the ones not released

[thelittleprince]

Originally Posted by mikesncc1701

Thought I'd share a pic of my updated Criterion Collection after the recent B&N sale. On another note I watched Kiss Me Deadly as soon as it came in the other day and absolutely loved it. One of the toughest noirs I've ever seen.

Nice! How do you organize your Criterions? By spine #? Thanks for sharing!

[greekak229]

Originally Posted by mikesncc1701

Thought I'd share a pic of my updated Criterion Collection after the recent B&N sale. On another note I watched Kiss Me Deadly as soon as it came in the other day and absolutely loved it. One of the toughest noirs I've ever seen.

Hm. That's pretty goddamn impressive..

[ravenus]

Originally Posted by mikesncc1701

Thought I'd share a pic of my updated Criterion Collection after the recent B&N sale. On another note I watched Kiss Me Deadly as soon as it came in the other day and absolutely loved it. One of the toughest noirs I've ever seen.

Nice, The BR forums should have a "like" option for posts like this

[Mr. Movie Fan]

The three most controversial criterions???
People always rag on Armageddon, The Rock, and Robocop like somehow they aren't worthy. Their all wrong.