The Criterion Collection

[TJS_Blu]

Originally Posted by buffetfroid

This is fascinating to me. I've never heard of anyone gagging from watching a movie.

Watch Love Story sometime.

[Jester217300]

Originally Posted by buffetfroid

This is fascinating to me. I've never heard of anyone gagging from watching a movie.

I started to dry heave pretty uncontrollably when watching Cannibal:

http://www.amazon.com/Cannibal-Carst...2070984&sr=8-2

IMO it easily tops Salo, Antichrist, and In the Realm of the Senses for gross-out factor. Actually Salo was kind of a let down and ItRotS was just a lot of sex.

[toddly6666]

Is it easier for Criterion to re-release one of their catalog films onto blu-ray since they have already cleaned it up on their Criterion DVD version? Or do they have to go through some restoration process all over again as if they are starting from scratch?

[Jester217300]

Originally Posted by toddly6666

Is it easier for Criterion to re-release one of their catalog films onto blu-ray since they have already cleaned it up on their Criterion DVD version? Or do they have to go through some restoration process all over again as if they are starting from scratch?

As I understand it titles that are just being released as a Blu-ray upgrade (Dazed and Confused, The Lady Vanishes, Rushmore, If..., Robinson Crusoe on Mars, Naked, etc.) use the same master/transfer/restoration as the existing DVD.

Titles like Branded to Kill, Tokyo Drifter, The Naked Kiss, Shock Corridor, Orpheus, The Red Shoes, Black Narcissus, etc. where a new DVD and a new Blu-ray are being released together CC has undergone a completely new restoration of the film.

So some of them are easier, some aren't.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

It's frowned upon by the moderators when people start linking to other review sites.

Please do not pass your incorrect observation as a fact. Linking to other sites is neither frowned upon nor banned (which isn't the case with linking to Blu-ray.com on quite a few other sites).

Like most big sites, however, we would like to support our site, not be a redirecting platform. If you have a different point of view and would like to further the ongoing discussion, no one will "frown".

If you are unsure whether what I have written above is true, then let me know and will provide direct links to examples where official restricting policies are introduced. But don't go suggesting that we are censoring traffic here when in reality we have one of the most liberal linking policies of any major site.

Thanks.
Pro-B

[Criterion Collector]

Wow, this thread moves along quickly.

Regarding Harakiri, I agree with the sentiment of "Enjoy of film". If there are multiple BD releases of it, that were struck from different masters, then perhaps purchase the various releases, watch them, and decide what version you ultimately enjoy the most. Sell or trade away the version you do not want, or even keep them if they all have various strengths that endear them to you.

For myself, if there is a film I absolutely LOVE, then I have no issues double, or even triple dipping, to find the version I consider the "definitive" one for my collection/tastes.

Regarding Antichrist, I highly recommend this to any viewers who may be on the fence about giving it a spin. The supernatural/horror element is a very minor element in regards to what the film is about IMO. I think Antichrist would work just as well/play the same without any of the horror stuff at all...In other words, I just don't think it makes or breaks the film. Just my opinion. The opening sequence is one of the best bits of film making I have ever seen. If the entire movie had been just like the intro, it would now be one of my favorite movies of all time.

In regards to my collection, I keep the DVDs and BDs together on the shelves. All of them in order by spine number.

[toddly6666]

Is Criterion or any blu-ray company going to release any Greta Garbo films on blu-ray???

[ccfixx]

Originally Posted by pro-bassoonist

Please do not pass your incorrect observation as a fact. Linking to other sites is neither frowned upon nor banned (which isn't the case with linking to Blu-ray.com on quite a few other sites).

pro-b,
My "incorrect observation" is based on my own personal experience on this site, and I know that there are other users on here who have experienced the same issue of either posts with links being deleted or receiving PMs from moderators politely asking not steer users to other review sites when a lot of hard work goes into this site by its reviewers.

I'm not suggesting that blu-ray.com censors traffic, but I am saying that posts have been deleted in the past and polite suggestions have been made to myself and other users regarding posting links to outside sites. Personally, I do my best not to post links anymore because of the PM that I received, but I do recall that when I stopped posting links people actually commented on the fact that I had not posted the link to an outside review.

We, obviously, appreciate all of the work that goes into this site or we wouldn't keep coming back. You're the reviewer for Criterion discs, which we all appreciate. I can't imagine some of the other reviewers on this site tackling a Criterion release for even one review.

[Adrock]

Just a note for everyone. This may have already been mentioned, so I apologize if it has been.

I spoke with Jon at Criterion, and the replacement discs for The Three Colors Trilogy, 'White' should be available in December. Feel free to contact Criterion to get on the list, and when they are available, they will contact you directly and advise on how to complete the exchange with them directly.

Jon's email address is : mulvaney@criterion.com

[melo4mvp]

Originally Posted by Adrock

Just a note for everyone. This may have already been mentioned, so I apologize if it has been.

I spoke with Jon at Criterion, and the replacement discs for The Three Colors Trilogy, 'White' should be available in December. Feel free to contact Criterion to get on the list, and when they are available, they will contact you directly and advise on how to complete the exchange with them directly.

Jon's email address is : mulvaney@criterion.com

I seen mention of this. What exactly is wrong with it? Haven't had a chance to watch mine yet.

[pro-bassoonist]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

pro-b,
I'm not suggesting that blu-ray.com censors traffic, but I am saying that posts have been deleted in the past and polite suggestions have been made to myself and other users regarding posting links to outside sites. Personally, I do my best not to post links anymore because of the PM that I received, but I do recall that when I stopped posting links people actually commented on the fact that I had not posted the link to an outside review.

CC,

I can think of plenty of valid reasons why certain links have been removed. Let me give you a recent example: a site offering a "preview" - posting screencaptures and leaving a note that it will provide a "complete" review at a later point. I am sorry but this is a pretty cheap shot under the belt to generate traffic - and in addition to the fact that these early "reviews" actually "borrow" the film analysis from other writers. This is why certain sites, but not us, have actually introduced official polices to restrict what is referred to as "stealth-linking". The internet is for sharing information, but there is a lot of cheating going on with this sharing.

I would repeat what I said earlier - we do not censor links and contrary to what some people would have you believe have the most liberal policy of all major sites. We do, however, expect some courtesy for our work because without it there simply won't be a site where you could share the information you like.

I hope this makes sense.

Pro-B

[SpiderBaby]

I personally haven't had a link remove from a post. But then again I don't go back to look.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I really felt Antichrist was shock for the sake of shock and I gave up on it after an hour. (I mean, it's called Antichrist for a start.) It was visually quite beautiful, though. I may go back to it with more patience at some point.

I've only watched it once so far but shock for the sake of shock doesn't seem quite right. I could definitely see surreal for the sake of surreal though. There were occasions when some of the imagery seemed a little too deliberate and a little too self-conscious.

But the more graphic elements (which aren't really any more over-the-top than the average episode of Boardwalk Empire) all seemed to have a point and more often than not were very viscerally effective.

And yeah, it's definitely gorgeous.

[Adrock]

Originally Posted by melo4mvp

I seen mention of this. What exactly is wrong with it? Haven't had a chance to watch mine yet.

From my understanding, it is an issue with the audio and the way it is decoded. Here is another user's quote from the Three Colors Trilogy thread:

Originally Posted by Vauba

Sorry, I think you misunderstood. I definitely have two channels of audio also if my receiver is set to straight. This release is not meant to be played straight though. If you look in the "about the transfer" section of the book it says the audio is actually a surround mix intended to be decoded by turning Dolby pro logic on. (Why Criterion didn't decode it themselves to make the disc's audio a native 5.1 is another question)

So with Dolby Pro Logic turned on is when I hear a mono mix from "White." Dolby Pro Logic would do such a thing when both channels of a two channel mix are identical. If you listened to it in stereo it might not be noticeable if both channels are the same.

[tama]

Originally Posted by Adrock

From my understanding, it is an issue with the audio and the way it is decoded. Here is another user's quote from the Three Colors Trilogy thread:

I'll pop my disk in this evening to see what my player/reciever picks up.

[TJS_Blu]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

I personally haven't had a link remove from a post. But then again I don't go back to look.

Me neither.

[melo4mvp]

Originally Posted by Adrock

From my understanding, it is an issue with the audio and the way it is decoded. Here is another user's quote from the Three Colors Trilogy thread:

Thank you for posting this. I really need to pick up some surround sound for my set up. Sick of listening through my tv all the time.

[Adrock]

Originally Posted by melo4mvp

Thank you for posting this. I really need to pick up some surround sound for my set up. Sick of listening through my tv all the time.

You are quite welcome.

I highly recommend it! I installed a surround system a few months back, and clearly hadn't previously realized what I was missing. I know now though, I was definitely missing out.

[JHas]

It's going to be a glorious 4 day weekend with the copies of "The Rules of the Game" and "Fanny and Alexander" that I finally received from BN today.

[Hawkguy]

I'm late to the thread today.... I'm surprised that people find Antichrist to be so shocking at all...except for a couple of explicit scenes, it's largely...umm..."emotionally volatile" (yeah, that sounds right). I would definitely not consider it 'shock for shock's sake'.


I got my Three Colors set in from B&N today, and, big surprise, the spine is damaged/creased...