The Criterion Collection

[Darkcritic]

Originally Posted by Monty70

I own The Lost Honor of Katherina Blum on BD. (Studio Canal Collection)

The SC collection is nice set, though obviously a notch below Criterion and Eureka MOC. TLHoKB BD looks and sounds very good for a production of the 1970's. (single 25GB disc) Some good bonus features are also included. (region A and B)

I found my copy on ebay for something like 10 pounds, so look around. (this is one title you may be able to find at a decent discount)

Sounds good enough, thanks a lot for the advice . I will probably pick one or two that will never make it as either a Criterion or a MoC release.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by drbikeshorts

My wife and I have watched all four seasons of Mad Men and we both love it. Really great show.
I would've been happy if it had wrapped up at the end of season 4, instead of getting renewed for another 3 seasons. I'm not a fan of TV shows going on and on for years. I think they wear out their welcome.
Why don't you watch some and then decide to keep them or give them...

Me too. I just look at the television shows I love, and see that the 2nd and 3rd years are usually the strongest, and nothing after that compares.

To add to the Mad Men talk, it's an excellent show that really is one of the best on television...but if you are watching from the beginning, you will need to have patience approaching it. It's going to take at least half of the first season to really get involved with the show and become eager to see more..

[Monty70]

Originally Posted by Darkcritic

Sounds good enough, thanks a lot for the advice . I will probably pick one or two that will never make it as either a Criterion or a MoC release.

The Lost Honor of K. Blum is in the the Criterion Collection.

Spine #177

[Criterion Collector]

Originally Posted by CoopFilm

...but if you are watching from the beginning, you will need to have patience approaching it. It's going to take at least half of the first season to really get involved with the show and become eager to see more..

I feel that a lot of television shows are like that. That is the real reason I do not consider myself much of a t.v. guy.

A lot of friends and co-workers will ask me if I have seen show X and I almost always have to respond with "No, but I don't really watch any t.v., I am a movie guy."

Perhaps it's a purely boneheaded way to think, but I feel like there are so many movies out there that I want to see, I just simply do not have the time to devote to multiple seasons of a television series.

Also, I find them a bit slow moving...I am used to movies introducing characters within the first hour (give or take) and with a television series, they suddenly have a mysterious figure show up as the credits begin to roll!!!

Now you are forced to watch the next episode to see who they are...then the shows writers make said characters background a big mystery, and they don't really explain it until about half way through the next season. I give up!

Bring on the movies!

[Darkcritic]

Originally Posted by Monty70

The Lost Honor of K. Blum is in the the Criterion Collection.

Spine #177

Really ? Well, these kind of things tend to occur to me . Great to see it has a spine; unfortunately, I don't see it coming to BD anytime soon so the SC release will have to do for now. Lots of titles I want to see in BD from Criterion. Honestly, sometimes I can't understand why Criterion picks some titles over others, the best example being the upcoming release of Tiny Furniture . I am not only talking about upgrades here but also about new spines. I don't see how Criterion can give green light to such a film (Which was also received with lots of mixed opinions) and not give attention to other actual films that handle more important topics. In the end thought, it all comes to opinions .

[Yojimbo]

Originally Posted by Criterion Collector

I feel that a lot of television shows are like that. That is the real reason I do not consider myself much of a t.v. guy.

A lot of friends and co-workers will ask me if I have seen show X and I almost always have to respond with "No, but I don't really watch any t.v., I am a movie guy."

Perhaps it's a purely boneheaded way to think, but I feel like there are so many movies out there that I want to see, I just simply do not have the time to devote to multiple seasons of a television series.

Also, I find them a bit slow moving...I am used to movies introducing characters within the first hour (give or take) and with a television series, they suddenly have a mysterious figure show up as the credits begin to roll!!!

Now you are forced to watch the next episode to see who they are...then the shows writers make said characters background a big mystery, and they don't really explain it until about half way through the next season. I give up!

Bring on the movies!

I'm with you on that. It's not a boneheaded way to think considering you can watch several movies in the span of one season of a show. Most of the time, in my opinion, most episodes of a show are too similar and it feels like I'm watching the same thing over and over, so it becomes stale and I lose interest pretty quickly. This is especially the case for criminal investigation shows like Bones or CSI. Every episode plays out the exact same way. This is why I have a hard time wanting to watch television, though it's not to say that I never watch TV. Twin Peaks was one of the best TV series I've ever watched and couldn't get enough of it.

[Hawkguy]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo

I'm with you on that. It's not a boneheaded way to think considering you can watch several movies in the span of one season of a show. Most of the time, in my opinion, most episodes of a show are too similar and it feels like I'm watching the same thing over and over, so it becomes stale and I lose interest pretty quickly. This is especially the case for criminal investigation shows like Bones or CSI. Every episode plays out the exact same way. This is why I have a hard time wanting to watch television, though it's not to say that I never watch TV. Twin Peaks was one of the best TV series I've ever watched and couldn't get enough of it.

It's one of the reasons I prefer television shows that have fewer episodes per season. Between 6 to 8 episodes is ideal to me, enough for a developed storyline but without all the filler that gets in the way of the overall story arc and repetitive nature of a season with over 20 episodes.

[rock, stone]

Different stories lend themselves to different styles of storytelling. I love a complex, layered story that takes longer than 110 minutes to tell. I personally don't feel that one is inherently better than the other, but I will say that some of the best things I've ever seen in my life couldn't have been made as films.

An easy example is the BBC 7 hour The Singing Detective vs the movie version. The series is one of the best things ever filmed, full stop. But when they try to condense that story into the running time of a film, it simply doesn't work.

Recent shows like The Wire, Arrested Development, Deadwood, and yes, Mad Men are completely different animals to weekly procedurals like CSI or comedy resets like Three's Company. They are serialized stories and the better for it.

[SpiderBaby]

I feel that there isn't enough "made for T.V." movies these days (compared to decades like the 70's). Which is weird, because you would think these days, most filmmakers would rather make a T.V. movie and more channels would be interested (I could see AMC, FX, etc.).

I know if I was a filmmaker today and had to choose between making a theatrical film and having free range at a T.V. movie on like say HBO, sign me up for making the T.V. movie.

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by Yojimbo

I'm with you on that. It's not a boneheaded way to think considering you can watch several movies in the span of one season of a show. Most of the time, in my opinion, most episodes of a show are too similar and it feels like I'm watching the same thing over and over, so it becomes stale and I lose interest pretty quickly. This is especially the case for criminal investigation shows like Bones or CSI. Every episode plays out the exact same way. This is why I have a hard time wanting to watch television, though it's not to say that I never watch TV. Twin Peaks was one of the best TV series I've ever watched and couldn't get enough of it.

I'm definitely a movie guy first, but every now then shows like Mad Men and The Wire come along and they're really worth the effort.
In fact, the five seasons of The Wire play like five great, epic movies. I haven't actually finished season 4 or watched season, but I'm happy to state it's one of the greatest TV shows ever. Truly amazing.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by rock, stone

An easy example is the BBC 7 hour The Singing Detective vs the movie version. The series is one of the best things ever filmed, full stop. But when they try to condense that story into the running time of a film, it simply doesn't work.

I don't know if it's BBC's corporate culture or different expectations on the part of their audience (some combination of both seems most likely) but the BBC has always been really good with those 'tweener' projects that don't easily lend themselves to either film or tv.

State of Play and Prime Suspect were absolutely brilliant and don't fall into easy pigeonholing and I'm sure everybody reading this could rattle off a list of their own favorites.

Though we do come up with just enough Midred Pierces to keep hope alive.

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

I feel that there isn't enough "made for T.V." movies these days (compared to decades like the 70's). Which is weird, because you would think these days, most filmmakers would rather make a T.V. movie and more channels would be interested (I could see AMC, FX, etc.).

I know if I was a filmmaker today and had to choose between making a theatrical film and having free range at a T.V. movie on like say HBO, sign me up for making the T.V. movie.

First off, kudos for rejecting the oh so lame word 'telefilm' in favor of made-for-tv movie.

Why do you think filmmakers would rather work for HBO or Lifetime rather than a traditional film studio? I would imagine that TV could be more open with regard to things like structure, duration, the number of acts, the way they're structured and so on and so forth.

But do you think HBO is any less anal about how their money will be spent or that their analysts are chiming in any less frequently? And I wonder whether an outlet like Lifetime might not be even more strident about content than any ten film censors.

I dunno, at first blush that tradeoff looks a like giving up tons of resources in return for what are essentially the same old oversight and restrictions.

I can see just taking the cash and going with a film studio.

[Oblivion138]

I'll throw Breaking Bad out there as another serialized narrative that could never work as a film. What television can do, at its best, is delve more deeply into characters and character relationships than any feature film could. Unfortunately, television is at its worst far more frequently than its best. But there are still a few great series out there that continue to reward their viewers with feature-quality production, without the restrictions of the feature runtime.

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by octagon

I don't know if it's BBC's corporate culture or different expectations on the part of their audience (some combination of both seems most likely) but the BBC has always been really good with those 'tweener' projects that don't easily lend themselves to either film or tv.

State of Play and Prime Suspect were absolutely brilliant and don't fall into easy pigeonholing and I'm sure everybody reading this could rattle off a list of their own favorites.

Though we do come up with just enough Midred Pierces to keep hope alive.



First off, kudos for rejecting the oh so lame word 'telefilm' in favor of made-for-tv movie.

Why do you think filmmakers would rather work for HBO or Lifetime rather than a traditional film studio? I would imagine that TV could be more open with regard to things like structure, duration, the number of acts, the way their structured and so on and so forth.

But do you think HBO is any less anal about how their money will be spent or that their analysts are chiming in any less frequently? And I wonder whether an outlet like Lifetime might not be even more strident about content than any ten film censors.

I dunno, at first blush that tradeoff looks a like giving up tons of resources in return for what are essentially the same old oversight and restrictions.

I can see just taking the cash and going with a film studio.

The BBC is so different than any entertainment company we have in the states. It is public service broadcaster, which means while it serves its own devils it isn't beholden to advertisers and profit margins the in the same way as American entertainment companies and networks.

As far as more freedom on TV than movies, I don't think that will ever happen as a reliable rule of thumb. Recently, Louis CK made a deal with FX for total creative control of his new series, but he agreed to make it for essentially no money. Netflix is bringing back Arrested Development for an unknown sum, but no one involved won't be taking a giant pay cut to get it made.

[DetroitSquirreL]

Look who is selling Criterion BD and have 132 listed ALL priced much less than Barnes & Noble...this is where I'll be getting mine from now on :in love:


http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=c...&RatingFacet=0

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

Look who is selling Criterion BD and have 132 listed ALL priced much less than Barnes & Noble...this is where I'll be getting mine from now on :in love:


http://www.target.com/s?searchTerm=c...&RatingFacet=0

Amazon is cheaper if you pre-order during the "window of opportunity" and also most don't have to pay tax (Michigan I don't believe is an exception).

[DetroitSquirreL]

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Amazon is cheaper if you pre-order during the "window of opportunity" and also most don't have to pay tax (Michigan I don't believe is an exception).

the Criterions I have I got from B&N (only because of the 50% off sale) but now I see Target online & Best Buy. BB even has them IN STORE now.....Just trying to offer a different place...for some reason I never checked on AZ for them

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

the Criterions I have I got from B&N (only because of the 50% off sale) but now I see Target online & Best Buy. BB even has them IN STORE now.....Just trying to offer a different place...for some reason I never checked on AZ for them

Amazon has a bunch of those for 20-23 bucks too, which makes them cheaper than Target. I hope Target brings them in-store when they take over Zellers in 2013.

[dwane5]

with all the mad men talk in here its hard to tell if someone posted info on sale of seven samurai at amazon.

$22 on monday

[*DrStrangelove*]

I finally saw Yojimbo and thought it was a great samurai film. Looking forward to Sanjuro next. This was my first Kurosawa film and I can already tell I'm gonna be a fan. I still have Seven Samurai then High and Low to watch. Gonna have a Kurosawa marathon today.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove*

I finally saw Yojimbo and thought it was a great samurai film. Looking forward to Sanjuro next. This was my first Kurosawa film and I can already tell I'm gonna be a fan. I still have Seven Samurai then High and Low to watch. Gonna have a Kurosawa marathon today.

Did you bother getting Kagemusha as well? It was the last Kurosawa BD I grabbed, because I heard it wasn't as enjoyable as his earlier ones Criterion has released, and after watching it, I agree. It's not bad, but compared to the others, it's my least favourite Kurosawa on BD. I'd rank Yojimbo and High and Low as my favourites. Yes, I enjoyed those two more than Seven Samurai.

Although it's not out on BD yet, I'd try to rent The Bad Sleep Well, it's one of my favourites, and as much as I enjoy Rashomon, I'd rather see it come to BD after The Bad Sleep Well.

I enjoyed both Yojimbo and Sanjuro, although Yojimbo has the slight edge for enjoyment. I also found it fun to watch Yojimbo alongside A Fistful of Dollars, which isn't as enjoyable since I watched Yojimbo. It's still an excellent film, Toshiro's so much better than Clint, although Clint is pretty awesome.