The Criterion Collection

[retablo]

Originally Posted by Jr7936

i just got the worst used criterion in the mail today from a seller who is fulfilled by amazon. it came in a generic black dvd case, no artwork, the book's front cover was all torn off cept for the bottom of it , and the pages are all ripped.
all the item listing said was no front artwork, way way way misleading
it was Le Cercle Rouge (The Criterion Collection) [Blu-ray]

Which is why you buy from trusted sellers only. I'd demand a refund through Amazon.

[Darkcritic]

Originally Posted by whbinder

I have a feeling this one is really obvious, but for some reason I'm drawing a blank.

Hen Cast?

Some people at the FB page are saying it is Chaplin's The Gold Rush which, if true, is a waste of a clue .

EDIT: Found this capture at another site...

[TJS_Blu]

What I thought was a bandage is the wrap Charlie puts on his foot after he and the other fellow eat his shoe.

[jacobsever]

Still am not receiving any member discount emails from B&N like I used to. But when I renewed my membership, I stopped receiving them.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

What I thought was a bandage is the wrap Charlie puts on his foot after he and the other fellow eat his shoe.

Yes, I did rather notice the missing shoe...

For those who still don't get it:

charlie chaplin turns into a chicken - YouTube

[jcs913]

Nothing for certain, but finally another Chaplin may come out of hiding!!

[bugsy_pal]

Originally Posted by ShellOilJunior

Thanks for the heads up. I set the dvr for Days of Wine and Roses. Jack Lemmon is incredible in that film. One could really see him referencing his own life experiences in that role. He battled the bottle for much of his life but my god-- what a treasure of actor Jack Lemmon was

Jack Lemmon was the best. His performances always floor me. I love him in The Apartment, The China Syndrome, Mister Roberts, and The Great Race - to name a few.

Have you seen him in "Save the Tiger"? He won the OScar for that one, and it's superb.

[Criterion Collector]

Originally Posted by ccfixx

Criterion is always at risk of losing the licensing to release films. I think that comes with the territory of being the middle-man. Some of the titles, though, that Studio Canal has released under their own Collection label are licensed by Criterion from other studios.

I'm pretty sure the rights for the DVD of Breathless were licensed from Genius Entertainment whereas the blu-ray is licensed from Pretty Pictures. So, possibly from the time that Criterion released their DVD of Breathless to the blu-ray release the rights to the film switched companies.

Le Cercle Rouge, I believe, is licensed from Rialto Pictures by Criterion.

Interesting, and thank you for the information CCFix.

This is a topic that I wonder about quite a bit. Does Criterion license a film for "X" amount of time when they first get it?

I assumed that is how it worked. A company feels that licensing their film to be sold as part of the Criterion collection is a better option than just releasing it themselves due to the associated quality and care given to Criterion's releases. Not to mention, the added exposure, if that is also needed.

Also, I assume that Criterion covers the cost of literally every aspect of putting these films to market, once they have the "master" they are going to use.

My thought was that if the film did extremely well with Criterion, and proved to be a great money maker, then the studio who produced the film (or currently owned the rights to it) would then want to release it themselves once the initial contract with Criterion expires.

The problem being (IMO) is that the original studio doesn't usually sink in the time, money, or effort in seeking out a quality "master" print to work with. Then they take shortcuts with the restoration/cleanup process, and release a mediocre product, just to cash in on the titles popularity.

Perhaps I am incorrect, and I could very well be, as all of these thoughts were nothing more than assumptions that i have about what goes on behind the scenes.

Anybody care to correct me, or fill me in with verified accurate information?

I would be very happy to learn something about how Criterion's licensing process works.

[rkish]

Originally Posted by DetroitSquirreL

thats even BETTER than the Criterion 50% sale as these will be off their in store prices and NOT the MSRP they do on the 50% off sale Now to pick up the ones I passed up on during the last Criterion sale....everything else will still be too expensive as B&N prices are all at MSRP

Hmmm...I never thought about that...but they are typically marked at $39.95 and some can be marked at 10% off. I wonder if they will keep those tags on or will pull them for the 40% off sale?

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by rkish

Hmmm...I never thought about that...but they are typically marked at $39.95 and some can be marked at 10% off. I wonder if they will keep those tags on or will pull them for the 40% off sale?

I assume the sale will also be online, as my laziness will not be going anywhere near a B&N a week before Christmas. Usually the sale will be 40% off MSRP, which is still a good deal. Then for all you 'members' you will get another 10% off, which really sweetens the deal. Then all the coupon people will come out of hiding and they will rejoice for another week or so. Now the Suzuki films and Vanishes will be at an 'acceptable' price....

BTW Rich, even though you imported those Park Circus releases, looks like 'Gold Rush' may see a spine in March. It is frankly, about time....Seems typically Criterion announces the title right after it is in their newsletter, but sometimes it varies.....

[rkish]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Oof! Dilemma. I really don't want to wait. It's painful enough waiting until tomorrow. Plus, the store that has it is the one near my job, not the one near my home, so I'd have to bus in on Sunday for it (granted, at least it's not an 8-hour drive! ). Thanks for the tip...I will have to give this some consideration...

I hear ya Joe...it's a LOT more convenient for me to hit my local stores and the one I usually frequent is 10-15 mins. from my house and on the way home from work.

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Does anyone know what kind of coupons I can expect for signing up for a B&N membership online?

If you Google "DVDTalk Barnes and Noble Coupons", there is a listing of active coupons (both in store and online) and links for printing out the coups/checking codes, etc.

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

That's because you're a great guy!

Oh gawrsh! Thanks Joe!

[Criterion Collector]

Originally Posted by rkish

Hmmm...I never thought about that...but they are typically marked at $39.95 and some can be marked at 10% off. I wonder if they will keep those tags on or will pull them for the 40% off sale?

If they end up doing 40% off their normal selling price (vs. the msrp) these will end up being an excellent deal indeed!

Here's to hoping for a "great" 40% off sale.

Also, I am glad to see more Chaplin come to the collection. IMO these films are a bit of film history, and genuinely deserve to be given the Criterion treatment. I will be looking forward to it, for sure.

Honestly, I would like to see more silent films on BD in general. Haxan is one that I am especially dying to see get an upgrade.

I like that Kino have done some great silent releases, most notably Metropolis, Battleship Potemkin, and The Birth of A Nation, and I am constantly on the lookout for a long overdue Nosferatu upgrade.

[rkish]

Originally Posted by jcs913

I assume the sale will also be online, as my laziness will not be going anywhere near a B&N a week before Christmas. Usually the sale will be 40% off MSRP, which is still a good deal. Then for all you 'members' you will get another 10% off, which really sweetens the deal. Then all the coupon people will come out of hiding and they will rejoice for another week or so. Now the Suzuki films and Vanishes will be at an 'acceptable' price....

BTW Rich, even though you imported those Park Circus releases, looks like 'Gold Rush' may see a spine in March. It is frankly, about time....Seems typically Criterion announces the title right after it is in their newsletter, but sometimes it varies.....

That's why I held off on "The Gold Rush", John, and only bought "The Kid" and "City Lights".

[billzfan]

Is there any possibility or rumor that Glengarry Glen Ross could come to Criterion? It's one of my 10 favorite films of all time and would be a perfect addition.

[jcs913]

Originally Posted by rkish

That's why I held off on "The Gold Rush", John, and only bought "The Kid" and "City Lights".

The Wise Man has spoken...

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by rkish

AGREED!

BTW Pat...I've watched two of the four films in the Shimizu Eclipse set and love them so far. I'm trying to not blow through them too quickly, so that I can savor them.

The best way I can describe Shimizu's style is Ozu-esque as far as casting and writing and VERY Naruse-esque as far as framing, camera shots, and pacing. There were times when I felt a great deal of Naruse in his style...but he manages to bring his own sensibilities to all of his films. I think you would really enjoy this set of films!

I've watched 3 films in the Shimizu Eclipse set and the third one, The Masseurs and a Woman, is my favourite. Enjoy

[fdm]

Originally Posted by jacobsever

Still am not receiving any member discount emails from B&N like I used to. But when I renewed my membership, I stopped receiving them.

To fix that you need to call them up and have them fix your account. (Assuming you have elected to receive emails via your online account.) Had the same thing happen to me and nothing for a number of years.

Now I'm back to getting the emails, including the ones with the generic coupons, the same ones you can just as easily find at the dvdtalk website. But have yet to receive any of the specially coded, single use coupons that others seem to get.

[AgentOrange]

Originally Posted by rkish

Hmmm...I never thought about that...but they are typically marked at $39.95 and some can be marked at 10% off. I wonder if they will keep those tags on or will pull them for the 40% off sale?

During the 50% sale they replace some of the standard price stickers with ones that read ("50% off, members receive additional 10% off). During the 50% sale, members still get the standard 10% discount on top of everything else. So I don't see how the 40% would be better in-store.

I don't think Criterion are discounted at all in stores anyway. They are $39.95 MSRP for non members. Members get 10% off everything regardless of what it is - books, coffee, magazines, or whatever other junk you might happened to be buying. Unless I'm mistaken, the 10% stickers are just referring to that member discount.

[oildude]

Originally Posted by rkish

AGREED!

I've watched two of the four films in the Shimizu Eclipse set and love them so far. I'm trying to not blow through them too quickly, so that I can savor them.

Well, you are ahead of me since I have not even cracked my Shimizu open yet. Mostly that is due to starting my way through the Oshima Outlaw Sixties set, but I have not got very far even there due to work committments getting in the way of my film watching. Funny thing is, when I bought all of my Eclipse sets during the B&N sale, I also told myself I was going to take it slow, savoring the experience, and not rush through them one after the other. Now work has made that goal completely achievable.

[oildude]

Originally Posted by JHas

Missing is another great performance of his that you need to see, was dissapointed when that one came out and criterion only issued it on DVD.

Yeah, I felt the same way. Missing is a movie that I saw years ago and it has stuck with me. Really would like to see this one on Criterion BD.