The Criterion Collection

[jacobsever]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

The transfer is near identical to the Universal release. $27.99 cannot be justified in any way. If you want to talk about the practice of double dipping, here's an example.

See, this is not the case in regards to Fear and Loathing. You get bonus features AND a better transfer. The price is still high, but it can be justified far more than what was done with Traffic.

Are you unfamiliar with Criterion as a company? Have you never looked at any of their titles other than Fear & Loathing and Traffic? Most standard releases have an msrp of $39.95. If you've never heard of Criterion before looking up two of their most mainstream films, then I understand the confusion on price. But if you've ever bought a Criterion blu ray in the past two years, you'd see nothing out of the ordinary.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

The transfer is near identical to the Universal release. $27.99 cannot be justified in any way. If you want to talk about the practice of double dipping, here's an example.

See, this is not the case in regards to Fear and Loathing. You get bonus features AND a better transfer. The price is still high, but it can be justified far more than what was done with Traffic.

So Universal released it with a very solid transfer, so it's a problem?

If Universal had released a crappy version of it, you could justify the price?

So..... with your rationale, if Fear and Loathing would have been a very nice transfer prior to the CC release of it, you would have sworn off Criterion at that time, and not waited until now to deem them "Out to get you" ?


The other poster is correct though. Criterion isn't forcing you to double dip anything, and I'm also pretty sure nobody forced you to buy the Universal release that has since put you in the quandary.

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

That's an awesome way to not have to argue against my clearly-spelled-out complaint.

titles like Traffic I kind of hold out for Barnes & Noble 50% off sales. Just depends on how bad I want to see the film. I can wait for Traffic.

When it comes to the Criterion MSRP pricing it can be because of licensing fees etc. Who knows how much they have to pay those inolved on Commentary tracks etc.. sure they are old but the release is on a new format and probably have to sign off on them etc.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

That's an awesome way to not have to argue against my clearly-spelled-out complaint.

Your clearly-spelled-out complaint doesn't really make a lot of sense though.

Is this release not up to their usual standards? Is it somehow lacking?

Or is the only 'problem' here that the CC release isn't leaps and bounds better than a pretty decent Universal release?

If that's the case then aren't you really arguing that they shouldn't haven't bothered releasing this in the first place?

(fwiw I don't really see the point of this release either but that has more to do with the fact that I think the movie sucked)

[Justin83]

Regarding Anderson... am I the only one who loved The Darjeeling Limited? It was the first film of his I saw and it hooked me right away. I have since checked out Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums, and while I enjoyed them I wasn't that into them.

Just curious because I never seem to see Darjeeling mentioned in Anderson discussions.

[Akijama]

Do you fellas think that wave in this year drawing could refer to Peter Weir's "The Last Wave"?

[jacobsever]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I fell asleep during it. I watched Hotel Chevalier like 12 times, though.

[Banned User]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I fell asleep during it. I watched Hotel Chevalier like 12 times, though.

HAHA.... I think the proper emoticon though is

Originally Posted by octagon

Pale Flower is one of those films that makes me want to learn the language so I don't have to even slightly split my attention.

You not the only one. Also a lot of Criterion's French films made me want to learn French as well.

[kazama]

Originally Posted by Justin83

Regarding Anderson... am I the only one who loved The Darjeeling Limited? It was the first film of his I saw and it hooked me right away. I have since checked out Rushmore and The Royal Tenenbaums, and while I enjoyed them I wasn't that into them.

Just curious because I never seem to see Darjeeling mentioned in Anderson discussions.

Nah, you're definitely not alone, it's one of my favorite "feel good" films. It deserves more love.

[trombone dixie]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Do you fellas think that wave in this year drawing could refer to Peter Weir's "The Last Wave"?

That would be awesome.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

You mean like Henry Selick,Tim Burton, Mel Stuart, Nicholas Roeg, and Danny DeVito all did?

Mel Stuart had Dahl writing the script, DeVito came a lot closer than most cold-imitators have (not perfect, but at least he knew what the books were about), Selick was at the mercy of corny 90's-Disney McScreenwriters, and Roeg didn't have a freakin' clue.
(And I still say Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was more of a "true" Roald Dahl film than Selick, Roeg or Anderson ever managed to create, and it wasn't even one of his own books.)

Originally Posted by Beta Man

Are you saying Fantastic Mr. Fox was the first Wes Anderson film you watched, or just the one that finally made you decide to hate him?

I'd hated him from afar just on reputation, but had never had any empirical-evidence excuse to actually SIT through one of his movies in excruciating detail before Fox. I remain unpersuaded.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Mel Stuart had Dahl writing the script, DeVito came a lot closer than most cold-imitators have (not perfect, but at least he knew what the books were about), Selick was at the mercy of corny 90's-Disney McScreenwriters, and Roeg didn't have a freakin' clue.
(And I still say Chitty Chitty Bang Bang was more of a "true" Roald Dahl film than Selick, Roeg or Anderson ever managed to create, and it wasn't even one of his own books.)

Dahl didn't write the final product directed by Stuart:

Roald Dahl disowned the film, the script of which was completely rewritten by David Seltzer after Dahl failed to meet deadlines. Dahl said he was "disappointed" because "he thought it placed too much emphasis on Willy Wonka and not enough on Charlie," as well as the non-casting of Milligan. He was also "infuriated" by the deviations in the plot Seltzer devised in his draft of the screenplay, including the conversion of Slugworth into a spy and the "belching" scene. This resulted in his refusal to allow an adaptation of Charlie and the Great Glass Elevator to be made.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/4660873.stm

Also, you made no comment on Burton.

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I'd hated him from afar just on reputation, but had never had any empirical-evidence excuse to actually SIT through one of his movies in excruciating detail before Fox. I remain unpersuaded.

Kids??? That's the reason I rented "Fox" I'm not a big fan of it. It has plenty of quirky moments I guess, but I enjoy his other stuff much more. I only watched "Fox" once, but I guess I could give it another view, but I'm not going out of my way to do that. If Netflix has it for streaming, then maybe.

I'm not a huge Wes fan or anything, but I enjoy a lot of the dry wit, and bonus points for many of his films containing Bill Murray, who I AM a big fan of.

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Dahl didn't write the final product directed by Stuart:

Also, you made no comment on Burton.

I, er....didn't feel comment was necessary.

(Unless you mean the dopey confusion regarding James/Peach, where Tim-boiz immediately assume Burton directed every Henry Selick film ever made. )

[Yami]

What's everyone's most hoped for upgrade/new title in 2012?

For me there are three upgrades I am desperate for - The Passion of Joan of Arc, Ivan's Childhood and The Spirit of the Beehive. I'm hoping at least one will be out before the year ends. For new titles, I'd quite like to see the Apu Trilogy, one of the hallmarks of world cinema, finally get the treatment it deserves.

[PowellPressburger]

Originally Posted by Yami

What's everyone's most hoped for upgrade/new title in 2012?

For me there are three upgrades I am desperate for - The Passion of Joan of Arc, Ivan's Childhood and The Spirit of the Beehive. I'm hoping at least one will be out before the year ends. For new titles, I'd quite like to see the Apu Trilogy, one of the hallmarks of world cinema, finally get the treatment it deserves.

I second Ivan's Childhood and I'd add Z , and Antonio Guadi (I watch this one a lot) and Jeanne Dielman 1080...and of course I choose very dark horse titles.

[Tin Drum]

Originally Posted by Akijama

Do you fellas think that wave in this year drawing could refer to Peter Weir's "The Last Wave"?

If so, it should be a contender for AQ of the year. The soundtrack on the SD release is just amazing I can't even imagine how it would sound in true HD. Awesome film from my favorite director.

[Tin Drum]

Originally Posted by Yami

What's everyone's most hoped for upgrade/new title in 2012?

The Tin Drum for the upgrade, of course. I would love to have the theatrical and directors cuts both included.

New? I could go for Chaplin's City Lights (would have chosen Harold and Maude but it's already a revealed clue).

[Old Geezer]

Originally Posted by Yami

What's everyone's most hoped for upgrade/new title in 2012?

For me there are three upgrades I am desperate for - The Passion of Joan of Arc, Ivan's Childhood and The Spirit of the Beehive. I'm hoping at least one will be out before the year ends. For new titles, I'd quite like to see the Apu Trilogy, one of the hallmarks of world cinema, finally get the treatment it deserves.

I also would love to see The Passion of Joan of Arc upgraded, although Wild Strawberries and/or Hiroshima Mon Amour would do quite nicely.

[greekak229]

Originally Posted by Yami

What's everyone's most hoped for upgrade/new title in 2012?

For me there are three upgrades I am desperate for - The Passion of Joan of Arc, Ivan's Childhood and The Spirit of the Beehive. I'm hoping at least one will be out before the year ends. For new titles, I'd quite like to see the Apu Trilogy, one of the hallmarks of world cinema, finally get the treatment it deserves.

I hope that more Chaplin is released along with Bicycle Thieves. I'm also hoping that Criterion releases McQueen's Shame. It has Criterion release written all over it.