The Criterion Collection

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by rkish

Thanks Spidey...I just took a couple of minutes to watch that trailer. A bit different then I thought it would be. From the minimal amount that I saw of that film, it seems the director was influenced by Godard. If that is the case...then I can see part of your personal interest in this film and those of the other New Wave directors.

Of the films from this set that you've already seen...which one is your favorite?

Of the films in the set (I have seen 3), without a doubt it's Daisies.

While pretty much every "New Wave" of that time looked to be influenced by Godard in some way (Brazilian's Cinema Novo was really influenced), Daisies IMO wasn't. It's more experimental, surreal, anarchic (which I guess you see the Godard from) than anything Godard made BEFORE Daisies. When you see more Czech New Wave films, the more you see why I prefer it to the French New Wave (though I also don't consider anything after Pierrot le fou of Godards' to be put in that category, so I'm of course not talking about the great La Chinoise, etc).

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

You and SB seem to be the only ones thrilled about Frampton.

I'll watch Frampton when I get a chance, but I can't say that avant-garde or experimental film makers are my cup of tea. I couldn't get into La Jetee, nor Brakhage's works.

It's my cup of tea. The term "Avant-garde" in films can be such a wide range of things, I'm sure you like something.

[ccfixx]

Originally Posted by K-Durden

Sorry when someone else asks or said something about but i want to know if THE GAME by Fincher would be release as a criterion? I had the German (international European Copy) and the quality is only a bit better than the DVD Release, so because i read something about a Criterion Copy a few month ago I want to know some new Informations ?

Greetz Durden

The last information posted was from an interview last year (early to mid-2011) with Fincher. He stated that Criterion would be releasing it at some point, but that they were waiting on his cooperation. With Fincher's busy schedule, though, he hasn't had the opportunity to give the time to Criterion. The link to the interview was posted in here a couple of times so you might be able to find it using the search option.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

He's not going anywhere. This is where his family is.



To be clear, I said "we" not "they."



BOTH!!!

I say they, as I'm not complaining about Criterion's releases like some of you are.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I don't know anything about Frampton, so I can't say whether or not I like him one way or the other, but I just went to Wikipedia and found this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollis_Frampton

He's apparently not a "footnote or a sidebar." You're just injecting personal opinion from something you saw 30 years ago...

I dunno, that read pretty "footnote and sidebar" to me...more akin to the privileged doodlings of a frustrated academic. My point though was not who or what Frampton was, but what he wasn't, and that's "influential" or "important". I didn't make that up either; I got it from Criterion's own masthead/tagline for many years which proudly read: "An important series of..."

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

Have you tried watching Frampton since then?

Nope. Got me there.

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

I've often written off films, only to revisit them years late and change my opinion about them, because my experiences have changed. I've also had the opposite happen, there's a lot of films I used to love, but can no longer stand.

Certainly true for narrative film; for example, initially I was very indifferent to the works of David Lynch and David Cronenberg, but now consider both of them Kubrick-class cinematic treasures. Conversely, in the 70s I was a big Ken Russell fan...but then I grew up.

However, with Roarschach-style experimental films, you pretty much get what they have to offer on the first pass...

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

[ Criterion ] even came out before and said they are friends with some filmmakers and that is why they release their films (and not because they are "important"). There are also times when people come to them to release titles. So the "Collection" isn't anymore "important" than any other dvd company.

As noted in my previous post to BohemianGraham, I didn't pull that word "important" out of a hat. It's from Criterion's own tagline for the collection (or once was, I don't see it much anymore).

You're right though. Criterion can release anything they want for whatever reasons strike their fancy. Ultimately, people will buy, or they won't.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by BohemianGraham

You're just injecting personal opinion from something you saw 30 years ago.

True enough. Then again, there is that whole 'one-eyed man in the land of the blind' angle to consider too.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by octagon

True enough. Then again, there is that whole 'one-eyed man in the land of the blind' angle to consider too.

...as well as that plebe who screwed up enough courage to say "the Emperor has no clothes!"

[Monty70]

Love Joe Dalek's new avatar. That would make for an interesting addition to the Criterion Collection IMHO. The original Wicker Man (1973) deserves a top notch special edition Blu-ray release.

[ShellOilJunior]

I had the pleasure of seeing Le Havre this weekend. I think most here will like it and will want to purchase the blu when Criterion releases it later this year.

Also, Bazinga on my Le Samourai comment. You guys should know by now

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by rkish

The only Ozu Eclipse that I currently own is the "Silent Ozu" set...which I bought during the last sale...mostly to compliment my "Silent Naruse" Eclipse set.

I own all of the current BFI Ozu releases...those that are from Criterion DVDs:

Eclipse Series 3 - Late Ozu: Of the five films in that set...only Equinox Flower and Late Autumn have been released by BFI...both on BD. I am willing to wait for BFI to release Early Spring, Tokyo Twilight, and The End of Summer...which I think will all be released on blu.

Individual releases: The Only Son/There as a Father (Criterion) have already been released by BFI as supplements on two different releases. The Only Son (CC) on Late Spring (BFI) and There Was A Father (CC) on Equinox Flower (BFI). The Only Son on DVD only and There Was a Father on blu.

Tokyo Story was released by BFI on blu...along with Brothers and Sisters of the Toda Family on DVD only.

Early Summer was also released by BFI on blu...with the supplemental film What Did The Lady Forget (pre-war classic)...DVD only.

An Autumn Afternoon (blu) and A Hen in the Wind (DVD) which was mentioned earlier.

Good Morning (blu) and I Was Born...But (DVD only).

The only CC DVD set that hasn't seen a BFI blu treatment yet: Floating Weeds (1959...remake of) A Story of Floating Weeds (1934)... I expect these two within the next year or so.

There is a DVD set coming out in February of silent comedies that CC has not released called The Student Comedies.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Student-Come...5729287&sr=1-4

Thanks for writing this up.
I can't help thinking these BFI's is the way to go, because you get a second film as an extra. It's the same with a couple of the Eureka/MoC films, like Pigs and Battleships, which comes with a second Imamura film, Stolen Desire. That's hard to pass up.
Plus, it's a surprise it has taken Criterion this long to release one Ozu on blu-ray.

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by *DrStrangelove*

I just started watching a lot of Japanese cinema as well. I first started with Kurosawa then watched the Nikkatsu Noir films and enjoyed those alot. I started watching some Kuruhara recently as well and have enjoyed his stuff a lot. I recommend Intimidation. It's pretty short only about 1 hr 8min but its very enjoyable. Black Sun was kind of weird and I felt it was really racist but still enjoyable. I have The Warped Ones on my que on Hulu next so looking forward to that. After I'm gonna start watching some Oshima. Think ill watch Pleasures of the Flesh first. Is that a good one to start with?

I liked The Warped Ones a lot more than Black Sun. Loved Intimidation as well.
I started my Oshima set with Pleasures of the Flesh and I've watched them in order. I probably liked Pleasures... the most, but then again, it has the most accessible and traditional narrative. I've still got one more to go to finish the set...

[drbikeshorts]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

MoC are releasing Imamura's The Insect Woman with his Nishi Ginza Station as a bonus next month.

Yup, it's already in my cart

[DetroitSquirreL]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

Also, Criterion didn't really feel Fincher fully "deserved" to be in the collection.

What Beta Man said -- Paramount actually produced the edition and then basically made a branding agreement with Criterion to give it some cachet. That's why it's in a conventional Blu-ray case and often sells for typical major studio Blu-ray prices.

Yeah, I picked it up last week for $10 USD brand new I like the film never the less

[DetroitSquirreL]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

My point though was not who or what Frampton was, but what he wasn't, and that's "influential" or "important".
.

C'mon mate...he gave us 'Baby I Love Your Way'


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QiwD...ature=youtu.be

[drbikeshorts]

I don't know anyone else noticed, but Criterion tweeted a link about Throne of Blood with the comment that it was released in Japan 55 years ago. Could be a clue...

[octagon]

Best. Lady Macbeth. Ever.

[DetroitSquirreL]

I'm looking to finally pick up 'M' but I'm not sure to pick up the Criterion or the MoC version? I thought I asked this question but I spent the last 20 minutes going through the thread and couldn't find it. I looked at the DVD Beaver comparison and I'm sorta looking at the MoC version. I have a region free player so thats not a problem.....please help

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Monty70

Love Joe Dalek's new avatar. That would make for an interesting addition to the Criterion Collection IMHO. The original Wicker Man (1973) deserves a top notch special edition Blu-ray release.

+1

It's one of my favorite horror films and long overdue for a Blu-Ray release.

[Monty70]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

+1

It's one of my favorite horror films and long overdue for a Blu-Ray release.

It's interesting that you call The Wicker Man a "horror" film. Christopher Lee reminisced once in an interview that the director proclaimed half way through production that they were making a musical.