The Criterion Collection

[ianungstad]

Originally Posted by jcs913

A little OT, but I know there are some Billy Wilder fans here. Looks like Double Indemnity is coming out on BD on 9/4. MOC has released a great looking version, but it is locked for those that do not have region-free capabilities. I saw the post of the upcoming Universal releases in the Hitchcok box set thread. rezpekt posted a link that seems to be some inside info on Universal releases. IMO, one of the best noir films ever released. Here is the link to page 5 for the lazy... Just stroll down to #86

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...=198021&page=5

Incorrect. The release of Double Indemnity coming on Sept. 4 is just a dvd repackaging with a "Universal 100" slipcover. It's already available for order on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Indemni...uble+indemnity

Personally I hope Criterion eventually gets it. The extras on the special edition are quite poor. Masters of Cinema did the smart thing and purged the "Introduction by Robert Osborne", "Commentary by Richard Schnickel" and dropped the 70s tv movie. Too bad all they added was a meaty booklet and the radio play. I think Criterion would purge those same shitty extras and add a bunch of stronger supplements for a definitive release. (in theory)

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by ianungstad

Incorrect. The release of Double Indemnity coming on Sept. 4 is just a dvd repackaging with a "Universal 100" slipcover. It's already available for order on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Indemni...uble+indemnity

Personally I hope Criterion eventually gets it. The extras on the special edition are quite poor. Masters of Cinema did the smart thing and purged the "Introduction by Robert Osborne", "Commentary by Richard Schnickel" and dropped the 70s tv movie. Too bad all they added was a meaty booklet and the radio play. I think Criterion would purge those same shitty extras and add a bunch of stronger supplements for a definitive release. (in theory)

I don't know, I think the days of CC loading every release with a ton of extras are in the past. If they do release DI, I would be surprised it their release looked that different from the MoC.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by TJS_Blu

It was posted on BR.com as well, got moved to the Wish-List subforum. Doubt that Double Indemnity will actually meet that date...

Well, yeah, only two months out there probably should have been some firm word by now. That said, that leaked roadmap/schedule/whatever has been awfully accurate so far.

If I had to bet - and I wouldn't bet a lot, mind you - I'd probably stick with the 9/4 date.

Originally Posted by rock, stone

I don't know, I think the days of CC loading every release with a ton of extras are in the past. If they do release DI, I would be surprised it their release looked that different from the MoC.

The MoC booklet looks pretty hard to beat but other than that it doesn't sound like that release is swimming in supplements. Given all the Billy Wilder material floating around and Criterion's director-centric general philosophy in the (unlikely but yaneverknow) event they do release it I would expect some very nice stuff.

[jcs913]

Double Incorrect... I couldn't resist..

The post clearly says that it is a blu combo release. That means it is a BLU-RAY and a dvd.

"Blu combo (9/4): Abbott & Costello Meet Frankenstein, Airport (also dvd), Double Indemnity, Jurassic Park (also dvd)"

Originally Posted by ianungstad

Incorrect. The release of Double Indemnity coming on Sept. 4 is just a dvd repackaging with a "Universal 100" slipcover. It's already available for order on Amazon:

http://www.amazon.com/Double-Indemni...uble+indemnity

Personally I hope Criterion eventually gets it. The extras on the special edition are quite poor. Masters of Cinema did the smart thing and purged the "Introduction by Robert Osborne", "Commentary by Richard Schnickel" and dropped the 70s tv movie. Too bad all they added was a meaty booklet and the radio play. I think Criterion would purge those same shitty extras and add a bunch of stronger supplements for a definitive release. (in theory)

[ianungstad]

Obviously the person who made the original list and posted it on criterionforum.org had legit inside information. While being mostly spot on, there's been some minor mistakes/assumptions on his list, Double Indemnity being one. It was indeed announced for Sept.4 as noted by the list...but the announcement ended up just being a reissue of the dvd. They've already moved on to October solicits. (Universal Monsters, etc.) All of the new to blu titles have been coming in blu+dvd+digital copy sets, so the fact they just solicited a dvd indicates to me that no blu ray release is on the horizon.

The other two films on the list, Airplane and Abbott and Costello meet Frankenstein are solicited as Blu+dvd+digital copy and have a higher MSRP than DI.

[bdmartin134]

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

[jacobb1313]

Originally Posted by bdmartin134

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

Boogie Nights is in the Criterion Collection as a Laserdisc. Considering that happened with The Game, this title would be a solid bet.

[bdmartin134]

Originally Posted by jacobb1313

Boogie Nights is in the Criterion Collection as a Laserdisc. Considering that happened with The Game, this title would be a solid bet.

Oh cool, I never knew that.. Thanks for that info, very cool...

[ianungstad]

Originally Posted by bdmartin134

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

The Universal release of Children of Men had no special features. I expect Criterion will do a special edition eventually. Ditto Punch Drunk Love. I'd add Adaptation but it's currently licensed to Image.

[Rizor]

Boogie Nights was released on LD by Criterion, but unlike the neglect The Game has received from Universal, New Line released it on a Special Edition DVD that included many of the LD's extras (save for excerpts from a documentary that New Line couldn't clear the rights for). It even has the same cover art. The Warner BD is great and replicates this release. Really no point for a Criterion edition other than branding.

While the Universal release of Children of Men is light on extras, it's hardly barebones and even includes a Cauron-directed companion documentary.

I think the current releases of There Will Be Blood and Punch-Drunk Love are about as good as we're gonna get in therms of extras from Anderson. PDL could be licensed out to Criterion since Sony doesn't seem to give a crap about releasing their catalog themselves.

I'd love to see a Criterion release of Adaptation. The fact that it hasn't happened yet is the most disconcerting news.

[Joe Dalek]

Originally Posted by bdmartin134

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

I would like to see more Assayas stuff like L'eau froide, Irma Vep and demonlover.

Lynch's Mulholland Dr., just to see what Criterion and Lynch could do together if they could stand to. But Hollywood can, should and will do this one.

I wish Criterion could relicense The Killer and Hard Boiled and give them proper, top-notch scans and Blu-ray releases.

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by bdmartin134

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

Ghost World.

[runnersdialzero]

Hard Eight would be great. PTA's first film, it would be comparable to Criterion's release of Danny Boyle's first film, Shallow Grave.

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by bdmartin134

What sort of contemporary titles, i.e. The Game, would be interesting to see added to Criterion's roster? Just kinda thinking about some films that match up to their 'mission statement'? I'm a big PTA fan, so I can maybe vision Boogie Nights possibly. Hard Eight is too unknown imo, but very educational to his style being a fan... My #1 is definitely There Will Be Blood, but I can't see this as a possible Criterion or even PDL. I dont know, just ramblin I guess. Would love to hear others opinions and suggestions..

Hollywood or just contemporary?

[rock, stone]

Originally Posted by octagon

The MoC booklet looks pretty hard to beat but other than that it doesn't sound like that release is swimming in supplements. Given all the Billy Wilder material floating around and Criterion's director-centric general philosophy in the (unlikely but yaneverknow) event they do release it I would expect some very nice stuff.

Well, the MoC has a 40 minutes documentary, a radio adaptation, a trailer, and a commentary. Which is easily equal to most new CC editions nowadays. Have they ever released a new to blu single disc that had extras like those Traffic or Fear & Loathing packages?

Still, since this is all hypothetical anyway, I wouldn't say no to any Billy Wilder stuff.

[KubrickFan]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Ghost World.

Absolutely. Terry Zwigoff's Art School Confidential would be nice, too. Todd Solondz's Happiness perhaps?
And I would like to see P.T. Anderson's Punch-Drunk Love from Criterion. Sony probably has no interest in releasing it anymore, and I'd rather see a $40 BD with bonus features from Criterion than one without them on Twilight Time.

[Fallglimmer]

Originally Posted by blkhrt

Ghost World.

I remember reading about a potential special edition of Ghost World a few years ago. It would probably depend on the extras for me, I'm not as crazy about that film as I was when I was younger...hasn't held up for me.

[BohemianGraham]

Originally Posted by rock, stone

Well, the MoC has a 40 minutes documentary, a radio adaptation, a trailer, and a commentary. Which is easily equal to most new CC editions nowadays. Have they ever released a new to blu single disc that had extras like those Traffic or Fear & Loathing packages?

Still, since this is all hypothetical anyway, I wouldn't say no to any Billy Wilder stuff.

Originally Posted by Fallglimmer

I remember reading about a potential special edition of Ghost World a few years ago. It would probably depend on the extras for me, I'm not as crazy about that film as I was when I was younger...hasn't held up for me.

Ditto. I always preferred The World of Henry Orient and My First Mister to Ghost World. Ghost World was partially inspired by Henry Orient actually.

[tenia]

Originally Posted by Joe Dalek

I personally prefer the French cover art, too. I haven't compared the two editions closely but it's on my wishlist for consideration.

From a technical and a content point of view, the US and the French edition are, as far as I know, identical. Moreover, I don't think we have the audio issue where there is a track missing on the US release. On the other end, there is no English sub on the French release, and it might be region locked.

[blkhrt]

Originally Posted by Fallglimmer

I remember reading about a potential special edition of Ghost World a few years ago. It would probably depend on the extras for me, I'm not as crazy about that film as I was when I was younger...hasn't held up for me.

As long as it is a good release I don't care who releases it. For me it has held up quite well. In fact, I rewatched it last year for the first time in probably four years and enjoyed it more than I had in the past. To each his (or her) own