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aggienader08 · 02-04-2010, 06:26 PM

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Curious. Whats the make/model number of your DVD/LD upconvert player? I thought they stopped making LD player before upconvert DVD players existed

I think it's the Pioneer 919. I can't remember off the top of my head. It's actually the latest Pioneer LD player and the only one still in "production". It only "upconverts" DVDs to 1080i via component though. I haven't used it in so long! I only use it to watch a few movies that haven't made it to HD yet, like "True Lies" because the DVD sucks!

retablo · 02-04-2010, 06:33 PM

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

Volume11 · 02-04-2010, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

Its more of an insult to Cameron because even when JLG does it it still has ten times as much substance and food for thought than Avatar...

jsummers157@ · 02-04-2010, 06:52 PM

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Kndy, you know how we were talking one time about movies we wished would be Criterion? Here you go! I had some fun!

Man, that is one of the best looking custom covers I have ever seen! Great job! That's got me wanting to see The Road even more!

jacobsever · 02-04-2010, 07:06 PM

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Man, that is one of the best looking custom covers I have ever seen! Great job! That's got me wanting to see The Road even more!

Agreed, that is beautiful.

aggienader08 · 02-04-2010, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

I'm not sure I understand where this statement is coming from exactly, because I've never heard James Cameron's name mentioned in this thread. Has someone said something?

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Man, that is one of the best looking custom covers I have ever seen! Great job! That's got me wanting to see The Road even more!

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Agreed, that is beautiful.

thanks guys! It's a good movie, even better novel. I think it fits Criterion's criteria.

ChadFL · 02-04-2010, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jsummers157@

Man, that is one of the best looking custom covers I have ever seen! Great job! That's got me wanting to see The Road even more!

I agree. It looks fantastic. It was a decent film, but could have been much better. Viggo Mortenson really should have been nominated for something despite the somewhat poor storyline. He was great in it.

SpiderBaby · 02-04-2010, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

Did you just compare Godard to Cameron?

ccfixx · 02-04-2010, 08:44 PM

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Did you just compare Godard to Cameron?

You mean me?

Ya know, that is what the second "C" in CC stands for, so you must mean me, right? Let's see... I'm not French... I'm not a film director... I've never been romantically linked to Anna Karina (most unfortunate). Come to think of it... I'm nothing like Godard, am I?

CC

aggienader08 · 02-04-2010, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

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Originally Posted by CassavetesGodard

Did you just compare Godard to Cameron?

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You mean me?

Ya know, that is what the second "C" in CC stands for, so you must mean me, right? Let's see... I'm not French... I'm not a film director... I've never been romantically linked to Anna Karina (most unfortunate). Come to think of it... I am a little like Godard, aren't I?

CC

Wait! Whoa! Whoa... back up! What just happened here?!

ccfixx · 02-04-2010, 08:51 PM

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Wait! Whoa! Whoa... back up! What just happened here?!

Hahaha! I don't anything's happened, yet, aggie.

CC

aggienader08 · 02-04-2010, 09:03 PM

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Hahaha! I don't anything's happened, yet, aggie.

CC

I'm so confused!

horseflesh · 02-04-2010, 09:35 PM

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That actually makes a lot of sense to me. I watched Pierrot le fou for the first time last night and was absolutely enthralled by it, but I never quite knew what was going on with her brother and the gangsters and who-killed-who. But at the same time, I didn't feel like I was missing the point of the movie - there'd be a small scene where I didn't know exactly what was going on, but I knew where the main characters stood, and then the rest of the movie would resume after it like nothing ever happened.

This was actually my first Godard film, and now I'm really excited to see some more. I pre-ordered the StudioCanal BD of Breathless, and I have Le Mepris, Une femme mariee, Made in USA, and 2 Or 3 Things I Know About Her all sitting on my shelf. Time to get watching!

I actually saw recently it for the first time too and it really blew me away, that's the first time a film has done that to me in a long time. I was glued to the screen, I literally didn't want to miss a single second. I loved the totally unconventional narrative and the way Godard basically threw all the rules out the window.
And of course two incredible performances in the lead roles.

ChadFL · 02-04-2010, 09:37 PM

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Did you just compare Godard to Cameron?

Cameron is a fairly decent director. Then again I'm not a "movie snob" who judges a movie by it's production cost. I've seen a little of Godard's work and it seemed average at best to me. Commence attackes and insults...

captveg · 02-04-2010, 10:20 PM

Cameron has his flaws, but he's a master at using the camera in space.

jacobsever · 02-04-2010, 10:24 PM

Will I not be taken seriously anymore if I said I really like Titanic?

horseflesh · 02-04-2010, 10:27 PM

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Will I not be taken seriously anymore if I said I really like Titanic?

Leave.

kndy · 02-04-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by retablo

Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

Personally, I've enjoyed James Cameron's films and Godard's films but both I would never put them in the same context and made different kinds of films.

The roasting of Cameron from Criterion viewers happened long ago when there were comparisons between Roy Ward Baker's 1958 film "A Night to Remember" (released by Criterion in the late '90s) and it's about the "Titanic". Of course, there are people who are were first to say that Cameron sponged off his film from ANtR.

But really, they are two different films and I enjoyed both.

And as far as Godard-ites upset with Cameron...maybe it was from Cameron's comments:

I believe that Godard got it exactly backwards. Cinema is not truth 24 times a second, it is lies 24 times a second. Actors are pretending to be people they’re not, in situations and settings which are completely illusory. Day for night, dry for wet, Vancouver for New York, potato shavings for snow. The building is a thin-walled set, the sunlight is a xenon, and the traffic noise is supplied by the sound designers. It’s all illusion, but the prize goes to those who make the fantasy the most real, the most visceral, the most involving. This sensation of truthfulness is vastly enhanced by the stereoscopic illusion.

Personally, they are two different directors who created films in different times, different situations. Godard created the films he wanted, never had the financial support and made films in weeks. Cameron definitely helped change the scope of cinema in the use of technology from "Terminator" and on. His films are big money makers, has a big budget and is expected to perform well in the box office.

Both are talented in their own right. But very different directors from different time periods that produce different kind of films.

bugsy_pal · 02-04-2010, 10:38 PM

I just saw Contempt on the new StudioCanal Bluray a few days ago. It was my first Godard film in colour - I did see Breathless many years ago on TV and loved it.

The Bluray presentation of Contempt is very nice - colours very natural and a pretty clean print. There were some scenes that appeared a bit soft, and others that were razor sharp.

I loved the lush visuals and enjoyed the scenes with Fritz Lang which I thought were quite funny. I did get somewhat impatient with the two leads and their incessant interrogation of each other - it seemed almost juvenile. It was almost like Piccoli drove Bardot to turn around and despise him because of his hassling and distrust. Perhaps that's the point, but their relationship didn't convince me overall.

But it's definitely a disc that I'll be watching again soon.

avstraq · 02-04-2010, 10:59 PM

I just got my copy of "Pierrot le fou" from Amazon today. I'm excited to watch it, but a bit apprehensive as a lot have suggested starting with "Breathless" when getting into Godard. I do know how the story goes as I've read synopses all over the Internet. Still, I'm sure it's something that I should experience by myself and not vicariously.

I do hope Godard listens when I say, "Be gentle with me; it's my first time."

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02-04-2010, 06:33 PM	#5682
retablo Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:Hollywood Blu-ray collection:1307 Trading Score:1	Sort of ironic that Godard can make movies about "pure technique" and eschew story and it's considered masterful... but when James Cameron does it, you guys roast him over an open flame.

02-04-2010, 10:20 PM	#5695
captveg Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:472 Blu-ray collection:1709 DVD collection:317 Trading Score:1	Cameron has his flaws, but he's a master at using the camera in space.

02-04-2010, 10:24 PM	#5696
jacobsever Blu-ray Knight Member since:Dec 2009 Location:Denver, CO 4K collection:158 Blu-ray collection:732 DVD collection:6 Trading Score:13	Will I not be taken seriously anymore if I said I really like Titanic?

02-04-2010, 10:38 PM	#5699
bugsy_pal Active Member Member since:Jan 2010	I just saw Contempt on the new StudioCanal Bluray a few days ago. It was my first Godard film in colour - I did see Breathless many years ago on TV and loved it. The Bluray presentation of Contempt is very nice - colours very natural and a pretty clean print. There were some scenes that appeared a bit soft, and others that were razor sharp. I loved the lush visuals and enjoyed the scenes with Fritz Lang which I thought were quite funny. I did get somewhat impatient with the two leads and their incessant interrogation of each other - it seemed almost juvenile. It was almost like Piccoli drove Bardot to turn around and despise him because of his hassling and distrust. Perhaps that's the point, but their relationship didn't convince me overall. But it's definitely a disc that I'll be watching again soon.

02-04-2010, 10:59 PM	#5700
avstraq Active Member Member since:Dec 2009 Blu-ray collection:181	I just got my copy of "Pierrot le fou" from Amazon today. I'm excited to watch it, but a bit apprehensive as a lot have suggested starting with "Breathless" when getting into Godard. I do know how the story goes as I've read synopses all over the Internet. Still, I'm sure it's something that I should experience by myself and not vicariously. I do hope Godard listens when I say, "Be gentle with me; it's my first time."

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